{"id":477,"date":"2008-11-11T13:47:00","date_gmt":"2008-11-11T13:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2008\/11\/thief-thief\/"},"modified":"2008-11-11T13:47:00","modified_gmt":"2008-11-11T13:47:00","slug":"thief-thief","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2008\/11\/thief-thief.html","title":{"rendered":"Thief! Thief!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/images.google.com\/imgres?imgurl=http:\/\/www.johnsimonds.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/snowman%2520holdup.JPG&amp;imgrefurl=http:\/\/www.johnsimonds.com\/category\/humor\/page\/2\/&amp;h=630&amp;w=840&amp;sz=40&amp;hl=en&amp;start=1&amp;usg=__-k65-ZKUYwjoePO690t_gVP02e0=&amp;tbnid=X6JQ6KhfajPMJM:&amp;tbnh=109&amp;tbnw=145&amp;prev=\/images%3Fq%3Dhold%2Bup%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: 1px solid\" src=\"https:\/\/tbn0.google.com\/images?q=tbn:X6JQ6KhfajPMJM:www.johnsimonds.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/12\/snowman%2520holdup.JPG\" width=\"145\" height=\"109\"><\/a><br>Last night the intro class had its last session. I presented the Ordinary Mind koan with Nanchuan delivering the knock out punch: \u201cWho would insist on affirming or denying <span style=\"font-style: italic\">it<\/span>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I pointed to how this practice of neither affirming nor denying holds up the practitioner, how this is the very point of practice. It occurred to me there and then that there are several meanings for the phrase \u2013 \u201cholds up the practitioner.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Great Faith Way:<br>Katagiri Roshi often said, \u201cThe <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>dharma<\/a> holds you up \u2013 from the back.\u201d I believe this is based on the etymology of the character for <span style=\"font-style: italic\">dharma<\/span> (Japanese \u201cho\u201d). We might not be able to see it and often don\u2019t \u201cknow\u201d it but there it is \u2013 the fundamental has our back.<\/p>\n<p>Great Doubt Way:<br>Zen teaching, neither affirming or denying <span style=\"font-style: italic\">it<\/span>, brings our habitual consciousness to a full stop. The issues poised by dharma, especially the Great Matter of life and death, cannot be resolved by habitual consciousness. How can the Great Matter of life and death be resolved?<\/p>\n<p>Great Practice Way:<br>The dharma is a thief with a gun to a our back. Give it all up!<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4330911338438640912-3981870377535834939?l=wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last night the intro class had its last session. 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