{"id":58,"date":"2011-04-12T06:52:00","date_gmt":"2011-04-12T06:52:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/04\/zen-teachers-as-professionals-not\/"},"modified":"2011-04-12T06:52:00","modified_gmt":"2011-04-12T06:52:00","slug":"zen-teachers-as-professionals-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/04\/zen-teachers-as-professionals-not.html","title":{"rendered":"Zen Teachers as Professionals &#8211; Not"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-457yeMRqBtM\/TaI-F1mAOqI\/AAAAAAAABSI\/AsafuGttyyo\/s1600\/101_2009.JPG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-457yeMRqBtM\/TaI-F1mAOqI\/AAAAAAAABSI\/AsafuGttyyo\/s400\/101_2009.JPG\" width=\"300\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Here\u2019s Bodhi on his 3rd birthday.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">He looks how I feel about the conversations about Zen priests being \u201cprofessionals\u201d or not that are kicking around at Hardcore Zen and various other venues.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">In my view, Zen is a craft rather than a profession and I think we could have some really creative guilds.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">I learned Zen through working close up with Katagiri Roshi, much like an apprentice \u2013 much more like that than like my other professional training program.<\/span>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">I\u2019m not arguing that we\u2019re not a profession because I want low standards, and willy-nilly ethical guidelines. Rather, I want higher standards for Zen teachers than for my other profession. And my training with Katagiri Roshi was far more intense, difficult and rewarding than my other professional training.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\"> <\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Most importantly, when <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>dharma<\/a> transmission is reduced to a check-off on a list of professional requirements, Zen in any meaningful way will be stone cold dead. <\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">As for Roshi, he did <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">talk about a priest\u2019s \u201ccareer\u201d and a  bodhisattva\u2019s \u201ccareer\u201d but not so much in the context of doctors and  lawyers. In many ways he did not live his life the way that doctors and  lawyers live in America. His practice was  much more than a profession.<\/span>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">The Soto Zen <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhist<\/a> Association has decided to frame itself as a professional body after some pretty good debate about five years ago. However, as far as I know, it does not have training standards that compare to those of any <span class=\"il\">professional<\/span>  organization I know of. The trainings offered by the SZBA are  voluntary because we don\u2019t want to upset anyone.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">However, professions do not have voluntary training  standards, at least for those key competencies that their national  organizations deem essential \u2013 Brain Surgery 101 (Voluntary)? It seems  from where I sit that the behavior of the organization  and the \u201c<span class=\"il\">professional<\/span>\u201d framing are going in different directions.<\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Deciding to call ourselves professionals without the underlying professional elements accepted in this culture (training programs with similar standards, a common body of knowledge and skills, exams, rules, etc.) just makes us look kinda fanciful.<\/span>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">Finally, and more important to me, a priest does not primarily serve  the greater good in the way that professionals do \u2013 serving people\u2019s  transient needs. 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In my view, Zen is a craft rather than a profession and I think we could have some really creative guilds.\u00a0 I learned [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":182,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-58","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Zen Teachers as Professionals - Not<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Here&#039;s Bodhi on his 3rd birthday.&nbsp;He looks how I feel about the conversations about Zen priests being &quot;professionals&quot; or not that are kicking around\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/04\/zen-teachers-as-professionals-not.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Zen Teachers as Professionals - Not\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Here&#039;s Bodhi on his 3rd birthday.&nbsp;He looks how I feel about the conversations about Zen priests being &quot;professionals&quot; 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