{"id":584,"date":"2008-05-18T09:48:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-18T09:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2008\/05\/making-their-own-limits-in-spiritual-partnership\/"},"modified":"2008-05-18T09:48:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-18T09:48:00","slug":"making-their-own-limits-in-spiritual-partnership","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2008\/05\/making-their-own-limits-in-spiritual-partnership.html","title":{"rendered":"Making Their Own Limits in Spiritual Partnership"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/images.google.com\/imgres?imgurl=http:\/\/www.hbo.com\/docs\/img\/programs\/celibacy\/506x316\/506x316_celibacy.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http:\/\/www.hbo.com\/docs\/programs\/celibacy\/index.html&amp;h=316&amp;w=506&amp;sz=30&amp;hl=en&amp;start=9&amp;tbnid=aev9nu4JFyhsVM:&amp;tbnh=82&amp;tbnw=131&amp;prev=\/images%3Fq%3Dcelibacy%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: 1px solid\" src=\"https:\/\/tbn0.google.com\/images?q=tbn:aev9nu4JFyhsVM:www.hbo.com\/docs\/img\/programs\/celibacy\/506x316\/506x316_celibacy.jpg\" height=\"82\" width=\"131\"><\/a><br>Some of the ongoing issues in the transmission and adaptation of <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhism<\/a> to the West and to the postmodern world are love, intimacy, sexuality and their relationship to <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>dharma<\/a> practice. I am familiar with Geshe Michael Roach through his very useful book on karma and emptiness, <span style=\"font-style: italic\">The Diamond Cutter: The Buddha on Strategies for Managing your Business and Your Life.<\/span> Thanks to E for recommending a recent NY Times article about Geshe Michael Roach and his spiritual partner, Christie McNally.<\/p>\n<p>After reading the article and the longer interview sited below, I find myself inspired and wondering. Roach and McNally live together in a yurt, vowing never to be more than fifteen feet from each other. They view their relationship as celibate and yet they also report that they practice high-level tantra.<\/p>\n<p>On the one hand, it is refreshing to find a couple who create a dharma reality together and stick to it regardless of the contemporary boundaries that divide spirituality and love. On the other, I find myself wondering (based on my own experience), how much intoxication is going on here?<\/p>\n<p>Other questions include, how can we enter a tradition without selectively using elements of that tradition to justify our self-clinging? What should be kept private (to the extent that privacy is still possible) and what should be shared publicly?<\/p>\n<p>Check it out: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/05\/15\/garden\/15buddhists.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/05\/15\/garden\/15buddhists.html.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And for a much more detail, see the following interview of Geshe Roach and Lama McNally:<br><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geshe-michael-roach.info\/geshe-michael-roach\/geshe-michael-roach-interview.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"a\">www.geshe-michael-roach.info\/geshe-michael-roach\/geshe-michael-roach-interview.html<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4330911338438640912-7166339547346162258?l=wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some of the ongoing issues in the transmission and adaptation of Buddhism to the West and to the postmodern world are love, intimacy, sexuality and their relationship to dharma practice. 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