{"id":78,"date":"2011-02-24T16:20:00","date_gmt":"2011-02-24T16:20:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/02\/stand-on-your-own-two-feet-can-a-post-modern-approach-save-zen\/"},"modified":"2011-02-24T16:20:00","modified_gmt":"2011-02-24T16:20:00","slug":"stand-on-your-own-two-feet-can-a-post-modern-approach-save-zen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/02\/stand-on-your-own-two-feet-can-a-post-modern-approach-save-zen.html","title":{"rendered":"Stand On Your Own Two Feet: Can a Post-Modern Approach Save Zen?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-rA3wYSxy1LI\/TWZtBDanD4I\/AAAAAAAABEY\/IIxIIhfkavU\/s1600\/post+modern.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-rA3wYSxy1LI\/TWZtBDanD4I\/AAAAAAAABEY\/IIxIIhfkavU\/s400\/post+modern.jpg\" width=\"400\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>\n<div class=\"ii gt\" style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\">The few times that I brought a personal issue to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">Katagiri Roshi<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\"> \u2013 hoping to lean on him \u2013 he would say, \u201cStand on your own two feet.\u201d<\/span>\n<div> <span style=\"font-size: large\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\">I bring this up now because I\u2019ve been reflecting again on power in <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>dharma<\/a> communities, a reflection that I\u2019ve been revisiting for over 3o years.<\/span>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">We may be in a critical phase in the transmission of the buddhadharma to the global culture. How we deal with power is one of the most vital issues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">First off, I don\u2019t agree with those who see power as evil, as something we should avoid.\u00a0 Power is always being exercised in our personal lives and in community so it is better to embrace power and openly reflect on it together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">However, I <u>do<\/u> understand the reaction to flee when the complexity and difficulty of power becomes salient. I sometimes still yearn for a little cabin in the woods, less often now but \u2026 ah, waking up to the deep quiet, sipping coffee on the veranda in the dark, hours of zazen, a swim in a clear mountain lake \u2026 ah, but there I go again\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Back to the issue of power, I agree with those who suggest that scandals and such are symptoms of an underlying issue, specifically, where can we optimally locate power such that the buddhadharma might fully bloom? Should power be located in the teacher, the community, or the individual?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">The traditional place to locate power was in the teacher. Here\u2019s an example of a description of a retreat where power is located in one key person:<i>\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\"><i>If you\u2019ve ever wanted to \u201chang out\u201d with Genpo Roshi in a private, one-on-one setting\u2014knowing that your life would be transformed in the process\u2014this is your opportunity.<\/i>\u00a0<\/span>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">What\u2019s different in this blurb <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">(I am not making this up) <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">from other systems with traditional power is how undisguised and unabashed<i> <\/i>the teacher-centered approach is. The power to change your life seems to lie in spending $15,000 for four days in Maui, hanging out with somebody <i>really<\/i> special.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Come on. Such a retreat would seriously transform my credit card debt but apart from that, probably not so much.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">That these events fill up shows how people are desperately <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">hungry <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">and how that hunger can be exploited.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Remember, \u201cStand on your own two feet.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Disillusioned by hanging out and anticipating transformation (with or without scandal, with or without spending $15,000), what we often try next is to locate power in the community.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Here\u2019s one clear expression of community-based power that I stumbled across recently in an online forum (used with permission):<i>\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><i>What we can do is to locate power in community, one that authorizes teachers and people in other leadership roles by calling for mutual accountability, ethical action, and an openness to speaking and listening to truth.<\/i>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Clearly, there are advantages to community power, important and healthy stuff.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Unfortunately, what also comes when power is located in the community is group-thinking which is inherently uncreative and attached to fleeting, contemporary norms as if they were universal truths. In addition, in order to project community- based power, lots of meetings are required and the group\u2019s focus can move from practicing awakening to attending committee meetings.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Sound familiar? If so, your community might be practicing community-located power.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">There\u2019s another danger that is expressed by the Japanese saying, \u201cThe nail that stands up gets hammered down.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Power located in the community encourages a system of normalizing judgment that is exercised in the evaluation of our own and others\u2019 lives. This can control against abuses but also limits innovation \u2013 a vitally important ingredient in establishing the dharma here and now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Finally, the community can elevate itself such that compliance with the community\u2019s normative judgments becomes the goal of the practice. The communal \u201cwe\u201d becomes more important than the individual. Rather than an ego we develop what Pilar Jennings calls a \u201cwe-go.\u201d In community-located power, the we-go is idealized and awakening to true nature is equated with compliance to group norms. Dangerous.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">A third option is the post-modern approach. Here\u2019s an really Buddhist-sounding excerpt from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Post-modern\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikipedia<\/a>:\u00a0<i> <\/i><\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\"> <\/span><\/div>\n<div> <span style=\"font-size: large\"> <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><i>[Post-modernism] involves the belief that many, if not all, apparent realities are only social constructs, as they are subject to change inherent to time and place. It emphasizes the role of language, power relations, and motivations; in particular it attacks the use of sharp classifications\u2026. Rather, it holds realities to be plural and relative, and dependent on who the interested parties are and what their interests consist in.<\/i>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">In the post-modern approach, power is located in unfolding dyadic relationships and the ongoing insights actualized in face-to-face meeting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">While traditional power motivates by the promise of granting worth<i> <\/i>from on-high,<i> <\/i>and community-based power motivates by offering belonging to those who conform, post-modern power instills in people the aspiration to realize their own and others\u2019 inherent worth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">While traditional power functions by oppressing, imposing and coercing, and community-based power functions by recruiting people into surveillance and policing others, most-modern power functions in person-to-person meeting and trains us to broaden our capacity for open-ended possibilities, al<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">so known as, \u201cdon\u2019t know mind.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">Post-modern power is edgy and requires sustained willingness to meet the person standing before us now. It is my commitment to practice post-modern power in our wild fox den here in Minnesota, and with others that I meet as I roam around in Zen dens here and there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\">\u201cI am willing,\u201d wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=1XuwqkOeAE8C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=cutting+through+spiritual+materialism&amp;hl=en&amp;src=bmrr&amp;ei=I25mTZnRI8aAlAfJyrz_AQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q=lean&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Chogyam Trungpa<\/a>, \u201cto share my experience with the whole environment of life with my fellow pilgrims, my fellow searchers, those who walk with me. But I am not willing to lean on them in order to gain support\u2026. If a group of people leans upon the other, then if one falls down, everyone falls down. So we should not lean on anyone else. 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