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Well, we sure can make a mess of things, eh?<\/span><\/span>
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One more point on the Genpo situation and then this old blog is moving on to the issue of submission to a teacher and beyond.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

There\u2019s a letter coming out from a bunch of respectable teachers that I decided not to sign for a number of reasons. Obviously, I\u2019m not respectable.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

But also I would keep it simple. Imho, organizations affiliated with Genpo should cut him loose. He oughta step back from all teaching indefinitely. Beyond that, I don\u2019t know.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

So here\u2019s a little Dogen for ya. Keeps coming to mind these past few days. It\u2019s from Dogen\u2019s Extensive Record<\/i><\/a> #140 and \u2026 you\u2019ll have to read it through for the muddy part. I\u2019ve tweeked it a bit (forgive me Shohaku and Taigen):<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n


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Dogen said: I remember, a monk asked Zhaozhou, \u201cBefore there was this world, already there was this nature. When this world is destroyed, this nature will not be destroyed. What is this indestructible nature?\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p><\/div>\n

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\u00a0<\/span><\/i>Zhaozhou said, \u201cThe four great elements and five skandhas.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/div>\n
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<\/span><\/i>The monk said, \u201cThese still can be destroyed. What is this indestructible nature?\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/div>\n
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<\/span><\/i>Zhaozhou said, \u201cThe four great elements and five skandhas.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/div>\n
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Dogen said: Although Zhaozhou said it like this, Dogen has a further saying about this. When the water is deep, the boat rides high. When there\u2019s a lot of mud, the buddha is big.<\/span><\/i><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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