{"id":10068,"date":"2012-07-30T12:43:05","date_gmt":"2012-07-30T19:43:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/?p=10068"},"modified":"2012-07-30T12:43:05","modified_gmt":"2012-07-30T19:43:05","slug":"updates-demonic-influences-ministerial-exception-and-those-pagan-olympics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/2012\/07\/updates-demonic-influences-ministerial-exception-and-those-pagan-olympics.html","title":{"rendered":"Updates: Demonic Influences, Ministerial Exception, and those Pagan Olympics"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Just some quick updates on stories previously discussed here on <em>The Wild Hunt<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>More Discussion on Exorcism and Demonic Influences:<\/strong> Last week <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/2012\/07\/why-we-should-reject-the-demonic-possession-narrative.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I took issue with Patheos Catholic columnist\u00a0Fr. Dwight Longenecker<\/a>, who made the argument that\u00a0Aurora, Colorado killer\u00a0James Holmes <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/Catholic\/Aurora-Murders-Demonic-Possession-Dwight-Longenecker-07-24-2012.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">may have been demonically possessed<\/a>. Now, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2012\/07\/28\/rev-dwight-longenecker-james-holmes-possessed-by-demon_n_1712452.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Religion News Service has picked up the story, bringing this controversial view to a much wider audience<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">httpv:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=-qK58CZslAs<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cLongenecker dismissed the range of explanations for what might have motivated Holmes \u2014 a bad childhood, mental illness, social awkwardness, extreme political or religious views, or exposure to violent video games or to the Batman movie that was showing when he allegedly opened fire. The real culprit, he says, was spiritual, and malign.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Meanwhile, other Catholics, <a href=\"http:\/\/catholicism.about.com\/b\/2012\/07\/27\/the-devil-and-james-holmes.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">like\u00a0\u00a0About.com\u2019s Scott P. Richert<\/a>, are doubling down on the demonic \u201cinfestation\u201d scenario, referencing Ouija board use in the 1973 film <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Exorcist_(film)\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe Exorcist\u201d<\/a>\u00a0as an accurate portrayal of how possession begins.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Troubling Expansion of the Ministerial Exception?<\/strong> At the beginning of this year<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/2012\/01\/update-ministerial-exception-and-minority-religions.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> I wrote about the Supreme Court of the United State\u2019s decision<\/a> in\u00a0in\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scotusblog.com\/case-files\/cases\/hosanna-tabor-evangelical-lutheran-church-and-school-v-eeoc\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hosanna-Tabor Church v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission<\/a>,\u00a0<\/em>which\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/2011\/10\/ministerial-exception-and-minority-religions.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">centered on the question of whether an employee of a religious organization could be fired without recourse to anti-discrimination laws if they were ordained within said faith<\/a>. The ruling established that a\u00a0ministerial exception from federal discrimination laws does exist. Now, <a href=\"http:\/\/religionclause.blogspot.com\/2012\/07\/ministerial-exception-applies-even.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Religion Clause<\/em> reports on two linked ruling from the\u00a0Kentucky Court of Appeals<\/a> that says the exception applies even when faculty at a seminary aren\u2019t even of the same religion.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">httpv:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6tqLhaZl_Rw<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cBecause Kant\u2019s primary duties involved teaching religious-themed courses at a seminary, his position was one that prepared students for Christian ministry\u2026. Given his position as a faculty member teaching at a seminary, Kant\u2019s\u00a0personal views are not determinative of the function he served. Rather, we review\u00a0the function of his position: teaching future Christian ministers primarily on Judeo-Christian subjects and culture. Kant\u2019s personal faith and beliefs do not clash with\u00a0the actuality that the classes he taught at LTS were for the purpose of preparing\u00a0future church leaders of the Christian faith.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So a Jew can be considered a \u201cminister\u201d of a Christian seminary, so long as his role supports the institution\u2019s goals. One wonders how this interpretation could be abused by organizations who want to evade litigation over a\u00a0firing. More on this particular story, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.courier-journal.com\/article\/20120727\/NEWS01\/307270076\/Kentucky-Court-Appeals-upholds-Lexington-Theological-Seminary-s-dismissal-professors?odyssey=nav%7Chead&amp;nclick_check=1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Olympics and Religion (and those dualistic Greeks):<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/2012\/07\/faerieworlds-update-pagan-news-links.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I recently linked to two articles that looked at the ancient (pagan) history of the Olympic games<\/a>, now underway in London. Now, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/news\/opinion\/forum\/story\/2012-07-29\/olympics-religion-fitness-greeks\/56575452\/1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">USA Today spotlights an editorial by Pastor Henry Brinton\u00a0that also looks at religion and the games<\/a>, specifically the Christians history of the modern games, and how \u201cmuscular Christianity\u201d saved us from the dualism of the ancient Greeks.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">httpv:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Rqx9uRUIQbw<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cAncient Greeks are partially to blame. While they provided the inspiration for the modern Games, they also created a dualistic philosophy that included antagonism between the physical and spiritual. Christians embraced this approach for many years, until muscular Christianity came along and people began to reclaim the ancient biblical truth that human beings are created with a unity of flesh and spirit. [\u2026]\u00a0As for the Olympics, perhaps the opening ceremonies should have had a celebration of religions as well as a parade of nations. Most of the world\u2019s great faiths honor both body and spirit, and encourage health and vitality. This would correct the error made by the ancient Greeks, and would pay tribute to the religious leaders who made the modern Olympics possible. It could even inspire a few religious people to get off the couch and into the gym.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I wish I could stamp a giant \u201ccitation needed\u201d on these claims, because it sounds like\u00a0revisionist\u00a0triumphalism to me. Ancient Greeks may have believed in a physical world and a world of spirit, but that didn\u2019t create an antagonism between the two realities. It sounds to me like Christians blaming Greek philosophy for their own shortcomings in how they adopted and adapted pagan thought. I\u2019ll leave it to my\u00a0philosophy and ancient Greece buffs to let me know if my suspicions are correct, or if Greek dualism really did create this antagonism Brinton claims.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s all I have for now, have a great day!<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just some quick updates on stories previously discussed here on The Wild Hunt. More Discussion on Exorcism and Demonic Influences: Last week I took issue with Patheos Catholic columnist\u00a0Fr. Dwight Longenecker, who made the argument that\u00a0Aurora, Colorado killer\u00a0James Holmes may have been demonically possessed. 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