{"id":10367,"date":"2012-09-23T05:00:39","date_gmt":"2012-09-23T12:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/?p=10367"},"modified":"2012-09-22T14:17:12","modified_gmt":"2012-09-22T21:17:12","slug":"pagan-voices-donald-michael-kraig-ivo-dominguez-jr-alison-leigh-lilly-and-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildhunt\/2012\/09\/pagan-voices-donald-michael-kraig-ivo-dominguez-jr-alison-leigh-lilly-and-more.html","title":{"rendered":"Pagan Voices: Donald Michael Kraig, Ivo Dominguez Jr., Alison Leigh Lilly, and More!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Pagan voices is a new spotlight on recent quotations from figures within the Pagan community. These voices may appear in the burgeoning Pagan media, or from a mainstream outlet, but all showcase our wisdom, thought processes, and evolution \u00a0in the public eye. Is there a Pagan voice you\u2019d like to see highlighted?\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/mail.google.com\/mail\/?view=cm&amp;fs=1&amp;tf=1&amp;to=jpitzl@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Drop me a line<\/a>\u00a0with a link to the story, post, or audio.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10369\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10369\" style=\"width: 412px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10369\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Donald Michael Kraig<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cMerely because something works for you doesn\u2019t mean it will work for others. However, it is quite possible that if something works for you either that method or something similar may very well work for others. If it is shared in that light, that\u2019s great. If you share what you\u2019ve learned for others to try and, if necessary, change as needed, that too is great. Similarly, if someone shares something they\u2019ve developed and that works for them so you can try it out and perhaps modify it so it will work for you, that\u2019s excellent.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Problems develop when someone believes that because something worked for them it must work for everyone and can only be done the way they want it. That entire approach, in my opinion, runs counter to the very concept of the New Age. And yet there are people for whom something worked who market their \u201cdiscovery\u201d claiming it will work for others. They have no evidence to support it, but since it\u2019s \u201cNew Age\u201d it must be true, right? And if you buy the product or service and it doesn\u2019t work for you, the fault isn\u2019t that the seller moved from the specific (it works for me) to the general (it should work for you) without any reason to do so. No, it\u2019s because you, the consumer, aren\u2019t spiritually advanced enough to make it work.\u201d<\/em> \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/dmkraig.net\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Donald Michael Kraig<\/a>, from a blog post at Llewellyn Worldwide entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.llewellyn.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/where-the-new-age-goes-wrong\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWhere the \u2018New Age\u2019 Goes Wrong.\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9531\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9531\" style=\"width: 340px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9531\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ivo Dominguez, Jr.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cAgora is the ancient greek word for the gathering-place or marketplace that was also the center of political and spiritual life in a city. Pagan businesses and the activities that they help to foster, can act as our agora. Within our community the idea of thinking globally but acting locally is very popular. I know many pagans that go to great lengths to eat locally grown food, which is a good thing. Please extend the concept of acting locally to supporting your local pagan businesses. Pagan bookstores and businesses are an endangered species. They are endangered because of thoughtless actions fueled by the need for convenience. I mentioned at the beginning of this post that running a bookstore is a labor of love. That is true, but I can also tell you that it takes money to keep the doors open. Unless more pagans choose to use their money locally at pagan businesses, then our money shall line the pockets of large corporations and feed their Gods. Minority communities only begin to thrive when they fully invest in themselves first.\u201d<\/em> \u2013\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/witchesandpagans.com\/Skryclad\/Blogger\/Listings\/ivo-dominguez.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ivo Dominguez Jr<\/a>, from his blog post <a href=\"http:\/\/witchesandpagans.com\/Pagan-Studies-Blogs\/the-once-future-agora.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe Once and Future Agora.\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9916\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9916\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9916\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alison Leigh Lilly with a very big tree.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cNatural polytheism draws on an ecological approach to theology to build upon the insights of hard polytheism, challenging us to deepen our relationships with the gods by asking more challenging questions about their relationships with us, with each other and with the natural world<strong>.<\/strong>\u00a0Natural polytheism does not reject hard polytheism any more than natural history excludes hard sciences like biology, geology or chemistry by embracing ecology.\u00a0But it does draw connections and invite us to think about the world holistically, as systems nested within systems, wholes nested within wholes. An ecological perspective can deepen our scientific understanding of the world by moving us beyond the questions \u201cWhat is it?\u201d and \u201cHow does it work?\u201d to the more challenging questions, \u2018How come?\u2019 and \u2018What for?'\u201d<\/em>\u00a0\u2013\u00a0\u00a0Alison Leigh Lilly, from her recent blog post:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/nature.pagannewswirecollective.com\/2012\/09\/14\/natural-theology-polytheism-beyond-the-pale\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cNatural Theology: Polytheism Beyond the Pale\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9917\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9917\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9917\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">P. Sufenas Virius Lupus<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cAre British Traditional Witchcraft practitioners in the U.S. practicing an \u201cindigenous\u201d religion? No, not really, I don\u2019t think, because by definition, that religion was created and grew up in a land and a culture quite different from the U.S. The same is true of any \u201cethnic\u201d polytheism that is practiced in the U.S., Canada and Australia, as well as many other places. At very best, those various ethnic polytheisms and the forms of modern Paganism that they have inspired are diasporic religions, but they are not indigenous religions unless they are practiced in the land which gave them\u2014and the cultures who practiced them\u2014their original shape.\u201d<\/em> \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/aediculaantinoi.wordpress.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">P. Sufenas Virius Lupus<\/a>, from a Patheos column entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/\/Pagan\/Indigeny-Debate-Sufenas-Virius-Lupus-09-07-2012.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cThe Indigeny Debate.\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9918\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9918\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9918\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Teo Bishop<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cThese thoughts occur to me as I continue with my ADF\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.adf.org\/training\/dedicant\/faq.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dedicant Path<\/a>\u00a0studies. I feel like I\u2019m studying to be\u00a0one thing, but the stuff around me suggests that I\u2019m something quite different.\u00a0I\u2019m studying to be an ADF Druid working within a Pan-Celtic hearth, as it were, but my stuff indicates that I\u2019m really quite eclectic.\u00a0This isn\u2019t a crisis by any means, but it is something to consider. What does our stuff say about us? And, how much stuff do we need in order to do our religion?\u201d<\/em> \u2013 Teo Bishop ponders his stuff in a post entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bishopinthegrove\/2012\/09\/how-much-stuff-does-one-pagan-need\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cHow Much Stuff Does One Pagan Need?\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10074\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10074\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10074\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">T. Thorn Coyle<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<blockquote><p><em>I honor the ancestors and those who are to come.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I honor this moment and the spacious reach of soul.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I am placed between the rising and the setting sun,<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The warm and the cool.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I stand between the great above and this firm earth.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Here I am. Awakened to this day.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2013 T. Thorn Coyle, from her poem <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thorncoyle.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/22\/equinox-morning-some-thoughts-after-waking\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cEquinox Morning: Some Thoughts After Waking.\u201d<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That\u2019s all I have for now, have a great day!<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pagan voices is a new spotlight on recent quotations from figures within the Pagan community. 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