{"id":1072,"date":"2011-11-26T00:01:00","date_gmt":"2011-11-26T05:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2010\/09\/thoughts-on-the-loth-for-today-psalm-35\/"},"modified":"2017-01-24T18:18:37","modified_gmt":"2017-01-24T23:18:37","slug":"thoughts-on-how-christ-prayed-under-duress-psalm-35","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2011\/11\/thoughts-on-how-christ-prayed-under-duress-psalm-35.html","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on How Christ Prayed Under Duress"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_-GKMR8mFGBs\/TJzJccdrDEI\/AAAAAAAABE8\/q6sVJtblkCU\/s1600\/jesus-in-prayer.JPG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_-GKMR8mFGBs\/TJzJccdrDEI\/AAAAAAAABE8\/q6sVJtblkCU\/s200\/jesus-in-prayer.JPG\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"123\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p><em>Once when Jesus was praying in solitude\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Is it wrong for me to wonder to myself this question: What would Jesus pray? What would God, as the Son of Man, pray to God the Father?\u00a0 I read a Psalm of David today that makes me believe a) perhaps this is how Our Lord prayed for strength while he was undergoing his trial, and b) David \u201csaw\u201d this <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2010\/04\/because-this-prophecy-of-david-is.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">and again prophesied<\/a> events that have been fulfilled.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Now, I\u2019m the first to acknowledge that I am not a Biblical scholar. I willingly give all rights to interpretation of scriptures to the Church. If I am wrong here, I am more than willing to be corrected.<\/p>\n<p>But read the following psalm not as if you are in the character of David fleeing from King Saul, for example, but as Our Lord dealing with the Scribes and Pharisees of his time, and of his treatment at the hands of the Romans. Read it in the character of Our Lord, standing trial before Pontius Pilate. As Our Lord being scourged and spat upon, lampooned and pilloried, and eventually unjustly crucified.<\/p>\n<p>Do you see the human side of our Lord praying for courage? For assurance of deliverance? For justice and for the joy of His followers? Taste and see.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>Psalm 35<\/em><\/strong><em>\u00a0\n<p>Judge, O Lord, them that wrong me:<br>\noverthrow them that fight against me.<br>\nTake hold of arms and shield: and rise up to help me.<br>\nBring out the sword, and shut up the way against them that persecute me:<br>\nsay to my soul: I am your salvation.<\/p>\n<p>Let them be confounded and ashamed<br>\nthat seek after my soul.<br>\nLet them be turned back and be confounded<br>\nthat devise evil against me.<br>\nLet them become as dust before the wind:<br>\nand let the angel of the Lord <a href=\"http:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/straiten?show=0&amp;t=1285339960\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">straiten<\/a> them.<br>\nLet their way become dark and slippery;<br>\nand let the angel of the Lord pursue them.<\/p>\n<p>For without cause they have hidden<br>\ntheir net for me unto destruction:<br>\nwithout cause they have upbraided my soul.<br>\nLet the snare which he knows not come upon him:<br>\nand let the net which he has hidden catch him:<br>\nand into that very snare let them fall.<\/p>\n<p>But my soul shall rejoice in the Lord;<br>\nand shall be delighted in his salvation.<br>\nAll my bones shall say:<br>\nLord, who is like to you?<br>\nWho delivers the poor from the hand<br>\nof them that are stronger than he;<br>\nthe needy and the poor<br>\nfrom them that strip him.<\/p>\n<p>Unjust witnesses rising up<br>\nhave asked me things I knew not.<br>\nThey repaid me evil for good:<br>\nto the depriving me of my soul.<\/p>\n<p>But as for me, when they were troublesome to me,<br>\nI was clothed with haircloth.<br>\nI humbled my soul with fasting;<br>\nand my prayer shall be turned into my bosom.<br>\nAs a neighbor and as an own brother,<br>\nso did I please: as one mourning and sorrowful<br>\nso was I humbled.<\/p>\n<p>But they rejoiced against me, and came together:<br>\nscourges were gathered together upon me, and I knew not.<br>\nThey were separated, and repented not: they tempted me,<br>\nthey scoffed at me with scorn:<br>\nthey gnashed upon me with their teeth.<\/p>\n<p>Lord, when will you look upon me?<br>\nRescue my soul from their malice:<br>\nmy only one from the lions.<br>\nI will give thanks to you in a great church;<br>\nI will praise you in a strong people.<\/p>\n<p>Let not them that are my enemies wrongfully rejoice over me:<br>\nwho have hated me without cause,<br>\nand wink with the eyes.<br>\nFor they spoke indeed peaceably to me;<br>\nand speaking in the anger of the earth<br>\nthey devised guile.<br>\nAnd they opened their mouth wide against me;<br>\nthey said: Well done, well done, our eyes have seen it.<\/p>\n<p>You have seen, O Lord, be not silent:<br>\nO Lord, depart not from me.<br>\nArise, and be attentive to my judgment:<br>\nto my cause, my God, and my Lord.<\/p>\n<p>Judge me, O Lord my God according to your justice,<br>\nand let them not rejoice over me.<br>\nLet them not say in their hearts:<br>\nIt is well, it is well, to our mind:<br>\nneither let them say:<br>\nWe have swallowed him up.<br>\nLet them blush: and be ashamed together,<br>\nwho rejoice at my evils.<br>\nLet them be clothed with confusion and shame,<br>\nwho speak great things against me.<\/p>\n<p>Let them rejoice and be glad,<br>\nwho are well pleased with my justice,<br>\nand let them say always:<br>\nThe Lord be magnified,<br>\nwho delights in the peace of his servant.<\/p>\n<p><\/p><\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em> <\/em><em>And my tongue shall meditate your justice,<br>\nyour praise all the day long.<\/em>\n<\/div>\n<p>To make sure I wasn\u2019t flying blind on this idea that Christ may have prayed these words, I checked out St. Augustine\u2019s Commentary on the Psalms (Vol II), which I found in my local public library. In the  first section of his commentary for this particular psalm, St. Augustine writes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In  short, what we are now singing is spoken by His Spirit through His  prophet, and in these words we recognize both ourselves and Him. We are  doing Him no wrong in saying \u201courselves and Him,\u201d since from the height  of heaven he cried out\u201d \u201cWhy persecutest thou me?,\u201d whereas nobody was  touching Him, and it was we who were suffering affliction on earth.<\/p>\n<p>Let  us listen, then, to His voice, now that of the Body and now that of the  Head. This is a Psalm calling upon God against our enemies in  tribulations of this world. Beyond question the speaker is Christ  Himself, afflicted sometimes as Head, at other times in His Body. It is  nevertheless through afflictions that He bestows upon all His members  life everlasting, the promise of which has made Him an object of desire.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Keep in mind Our Lord\u2019s <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.americancatholic.org\/Newsletters\/CU\/ac0208.asp\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Agony in the Garden<\/a>.\u00a0He is truly, fully, human. As proof of this, recall how he was sorely troubled at the prospect of facing bodily death. Yet his faith in God the Father was such that he prays \u201cnot my will but thy will be done.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I pray that I have a faith as strong as this.<\/p>\n<p><em>Note: The translation of this psalm is from the Douay-Rheims. 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