{"id":1521,"date":"2010-01-09T15:11:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-09T15:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2010\/01\/comments-of-the-week-avast-there-skipper\/"},"modified":"2017-01-24T19:13:29","modified_gmt":"2017-01-25T00:13:29","slug":"comments-of-the-week-avast-there-skipper","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2010\/01\/comments-of-the-week-avast-there-skipper.html","title":{"rendered":"Comments of the Week &#8211; Avast there, Skipper!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Posted by Frank <\/span><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">No, it is not mutinous to correct your superior officer when they make a mistake. We consider this <\/span>counseling <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">our superior officer. You see, Webster pulled the plug early yesterday to head up to Vermont for a semi-long weekend.  Trying to beat all the traffic streaming out of Boston, I suspect.  <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">So when he posted the <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2010\/01\/comments-of-week_09.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Comments of the Week<\/a>  earlier today, he failed to notice that <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2010\/01\/because-of-blaise-pascals-letter-upon.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">my post<\/a> on my buddy <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Blaise<\/span> Pascal garnered more comments than the <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2010\/01\/because-of-brother-sun-sister-moon.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Brother Sun, Sister M<\/span>oon post<\/a> from earlier this week.  <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">Now, <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Blaise<\/span> is a master of probability theory (duh!), and my post on his letter faced long-odds in catching up to <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BSSM<\/span> in so short a time, so Webster is excused from missing this development.  But let me be Frank (pun intended!) for a second and yell, <\/span>belay that command<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\">, because <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Blaise<\/span> and I pulled way ahead of your post Skipper.  The <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">YIMC<\/span> reader base (we few, we happy few) actually, sorry to to say, skunked your post with 34 comments (now 35 thanks to Anthony \u201cTony\u201d Layne) versus  22 for <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">BSSM<\/span>. Can you hear the Beach Boys tune <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Shut Down<\/span> playing in the background? Forgive me Webster!\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oTyrhC9jFog\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oTyrhC9jFog<\/a>\n<p>Chalk it up to the subject matter of the posts, which are as different as night is from day. The subject of <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Blaise\u2019s<\/span> letter being <\/p><\/span>death<\/span><\/span><\/span>.  And more specifically death from the Catholic perspective.  Admittedly, it is a delicate subject and one for which none of us have all the answers. We are blessed though in that our little community offered up differing perspectives of the mystery of our lives and our eventual deaths.\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><\/span><\/span><\/span>   Reader, and <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/yimc-book-club-orthodoxy-chapter-6.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">guest poster<\/a>, <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">EPG<\/span> writes:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">I admit I have my doubts about \u201cthe decree of providence\u201d argument, at least to the extent that it applies to the particular circumstances of every death, in time, place and manner. For example, here in Florida, we recently had a notorious case in which a young girl was abducted from her home, raped, and then buried alive by a sexual predator who lived near her. It\u2019s hard to see \u201cthe decree of providence\u201d in that. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Perhaps it is better to think that God holds the handlebars of the universe lightly, and that, in creating a universe which included the possibility of free will, he allowed for all sorts of disasters, including room for individuals to commit evil, which may have consequences for those who happen to be near them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">(But then, <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">theodicy<\/span> (<\/span>editor:<span style=\"font-style: italic\"> <\/span>the attempt to justify the behavior of God<span style=\"font-style: italic\">)is a thorny problem, and I don\u2019t expect any of us to resolve that.) <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Perhaps a better response is simply to acknowledge, at least in the case of premature death, that there is no answer except the cross and the empty tomb. Christians have the ability to say at least, \u201cLook, we don\u2019t understand the mystery of suffering and death, but we know that God shared in it on the Cross, and that the empty tomb tells us that death, however painful, does not have the last word.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>An anonymous reader gave us this news to contend with:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Hi, I love your columns and want to know what you would say to a mother whose 4 month old died of SIDS. She does not like to hear \u201cGod is in charge. He knew what he was doing when he took your son, or God needed another angel in heaven, or be glad because he has reached his goal with no sin on his soul\u2026these are only driving her away from God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Whereupon several of  you responded in, what I hope, are helpful ways to this tragic, personal, and very particular circumstance. Jan from the blog <a href=\"http:\/\/runswithangels.wordpress.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Runs with Angels<\/a> offered up these words of advice:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">To anon \u2013 there is nothing you can say to someone who loses a child, especially unexpectedly. The only effective thing I\u2019ve found is to <\/span><i>listen<\/i><span style=\"font-style: italic\"> very carefully to what the grieving say and take your cues from that. Always be ready to listen and gently guide through each episode, if you will. The only thing you can truly say is \u201cI\u2019m so very sorry.\u201d Even if that is all you say, over and over, that is really all there is.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>And an Anonymous reader offered this:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">I understand your pain on losing a baby. If you look at the archives for this blog for Dec 16<span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">th<\/span>, you\u2019ll find a reference to the <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Youtube<\/span> clip for \u201c99 <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">baloons<\/span>\u201d in the comments. Very Inspirational! (even 24 years later) for me. I lost a baby at two days of age \u2013 and I realize that losing a child at 4 months is a whole other experience. And I know this because my sister lost a nineteen year old! Please accept my prayers as you fold this tragedy into the tapestry of your life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Helping one another bear the burdens of the Cross is why we are called to be members of Christ\u2019s body through the Church. Reader \u201c<span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">pinksy<\/span>82\u2033 shared a piece from Anne Dillard while \u201c<span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Athos<\/span>\u201d sent this link to a <a href=\"http:\/\/alittleguide.blogspot.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">helpful little book<\/a> on the matter which he authored.<\/p>\n<p>The \u201ccomment of the week\u201d award  goes to Warren Jewell, our own Doctor Mellifluous who, now that I taught him how to cut and paste comments, is really letting us all benefit from his experience of walking along the narrow path of  Catholic <span class=\"blsp-spelling-corrected\">Christian faith<\/span>. Warren, take it away:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Father Benedict <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Groeschel<\/span>, after nearly dying in an auto-pedestrian accident, wrote that \u201cThere Are No Accidents\u2019 \u2013 it IS all in God\u2019s hands.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">But, if circumstances \u2013 the dead child, most movingly \u2013 seem harsh, we become tentative to have God the Prime Mover of all, that God would permit, even cause such tragedy. That is an odd kind of arrogant reluctance, coming from souls who still very willingly put up the sins that put the very Son of God, humiliated, beaten and tortured, on His Cross.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>And, yet, if in our weak and timid spirits God\u2019s hand cannot seem to directly bring even death, He permits all that comes into motion that yields death, even of His most beloved innocents. Thus, the tortured child then buried alive began a few generations ago in the murderer\u2019s family\u2019s lessening moral strictures on such actions. God was there \u2013 He knew where it would lead and He let sinful human free will take its awful course. Then again, without God\u2019s complicity in building me, I would have died before birth, short of say, lungs. It is decidedly a mixed bag, here, time-side, now that we have all sinned and come short of God\u2019s direct Eden-like Presence and loving glory.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">I am reminded of our crucified Savior\u2019s words at Luke 13:2-5: \u201cDo you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered thus? <\/span><br><span style=\"font-style: italic\">I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. <\/span><br><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Or those eighteen upon whom the tower in <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Siloam<\/span> fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who dwelt in Jerusalem? <\/span><br><span style=\"font-style: italic\">I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">To Christ, there was this aspect to such a judgmental assessment: \u201cJust who the Hades are YOU, to question God\u2019s will with you, you sinners! Get out of His face, and repent or forever die, and leave His infinite will to Him, His eternal choices to Him. You have eyes \u2013 SEE \u2013 You have ears \u2013 LISTEN \u2013 and accept whatever the Father gives you that He may save you.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\">And, thus does every prayer have its humble completion and move toward sublime perfection in the clause \u201c. . . and Thy will be done.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Amen!  Keep these comments coming as Webster and I  keep answering the question <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Why I Am Catholic<\/span> to the best of our ability.<\/p>\n<p>While pondering the mysteries of life and death after writing this post and reading these comments, a friend, former comrade-at-arms,  and <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">YIM<\/span> Catholic Face Book fan posted this video of The Verve performing their song<span style=\"font-style: italic\"> Bittersweet Symphony<\/span> on his <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\">Facebook<\/span> page.  Somehow, it seems very fitting that I include it here for your enjoyment and as a conclusion to this homage to our dear readers.  May God bless us all, each one of us!<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony (Glastonbury 2008)\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3GnWRjoP9mQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: normal\"> <\/span><br><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><\/span><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/6738513599344023043-834833625248580514?l=yimcatholic.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Posted by Frank No, it is not mutinous to correct your superior officer when they make a mistake. 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