{"id":1544,"date":"2010-01-02T06:45:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-02T06:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2010\/01\/for-all-the-saints-basil-and-gregory\/"},"modified":"2017-01-24T19:14:02","modified_gmt":"2017-01-25T00:14:02","slug":"for-all-the-saints-basil-and-gregory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2010\/01\/for-all-the-saints-basil-and-gregory.html","title":{"rendered":"For All the Saints: Basil and Gregory"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><i>Posted by Webster\u00a0<\/i><br>As I head to our first <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/because-catholic-men-are-just-that.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">men\u2019s group<\/a> of 2010, I come across today\u2019s reading in honor of Sts. Basil the Great and Gregory Nazianzen. Like many readings from the Office, I begin it half asleep and finish it fully awake. This excerpt from a sermon by St. Gregory speaks to our men\u2019s group, in particular, and Christian friendship between men, in general. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_dmDaLWNETzg\/Sz8iQcCZouI\/AAAAAAAAAxc\/5n6hjmn3ZLE\/s1600-h\/3Hierarchs\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_dmDaLWNETzg\/Sz8iQcCZouI\/AAAAAAAAAxc\/5n6hjmn3ZLE\/s320\/3Hierarchs\"><\/a>Today\u2019s meeting is my first as secretary, which means, in theater parlance, that I book the acts. Today\u2019s act is Big Bill\u2014Cursillo. We have a Little Bill, too, which is why today\u2019s Bill is known, to me alone, as Big Bill.<\/p>\n<p>This will be Patrick\u2019s first meeting as president, and as such, he will make the coffee and wield the invisible gavel against filibustering. I hope Patrick remembers the coffee. <\/p>\n<p>Our outgoing president, <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/thanks-to-ferde-once-again.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">my big brother Ferde<\/a>, will be there, tickled to be relieved of the coffee duties after three years of building the group from scratch and surviving a terrible intramural crisis eighteen months ago about whether to put cinnamon in the coffee. Ferde said yea, everyone else said nay; Ferde was president; it was messy. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2009\/10\/survey-2-because-of-what-hymn.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jonathan<\/a>, the outgoing secretary, will be there as well. Which is always a blessing, because Jonathan and Little Bill actually know something about Catholicism, its history and culture. They are, hands down, the two most knowledgeable Catholics in the group. Sorry, Ferde, that includes you. Same with you, Big Bill.<\/p>\n<p>What touches me about the saints for today, both born in the same year, 330 AD, in Asia Minor, is that we remember them as <i>friends. <\/i>I wonder if <i>friendship in Christ between men <\/i>is illustrated in the lives of Sts. Basil and Gregory more vividly than in any other two saints\u2019 lives. I don\u2019t have the knowledge to judge this question, but I do have today\u2019s reading. <\/p>\n<p>I read St. Gregory\u2019s words, and they are touching:<\/p>\n<p><i>Basil and I were both in Athens. We had come, like streams of a river, from the same source in our native land, had separated from each other in pursuit of learning, and were now united again as if by plan, for God so arranged it.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p>All of us come from the same river; some of us are \u201cunited again.\u201d Do we acknowledge that this might be \u201cby plan, for God so arranged it\u201d? <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/for-thirteen-angels.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Who chooses our friends for us<\/a>? <\/p>\n<p><i>Such was the prelude to our friendship, the kindling of that flame that was to bind us together. In this way we began to feel affection for each other. When, in the course of time, we acknowledged our friendship and recognized that our ambition was a life of true wisdom, we became everything to each other: we shared the same lodging, the same table, the same desires, the same goal. Our love for each other grew daily warmer and deeper.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p>The key here is the joint ambition: <i>a life of true wisdom. <\/i>Men have many ambitions. Men, more than women, are known for ambition. We think of ambition sometimes as an outward expression of testosterone. But these fourth-century saints had a particular ambition that had nothing to do with possessions or acclaim. And it bound them together. Read their short biographies and you\u2019ll see.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/saints.sqpn.com\/saint-basil-the-great\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Basil is here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/saints.sqpn.com\/saint-gregory-of-nazianzen\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gregory is here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The icon at the top of this post shows Basil (left) and Gregory (right) flanking St. John Chrysostom. I like this illustration because it seems to say what the preceding paragraph says: that for two men to be joined in true friendship, there must be a third factor present, and \u201ca life of true wisdom\u201d as a joint ambition will do very nicely.<\/p>\n<p><i>The same hope inspired us: the pursuit of learning. This is an ambition especially subject to envy. Yet between us there was no envy. On the contrary, we made capital out of our rivalry. Our rivalry consisted, not in seeking the first place for oneself but in yielding it to the other, for we each looked on the other\u2019s success as his own.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Testosterone breeds envy, and in two men vying for wisdom there is a great temptation to envy. I don\u2019t think men have an edge on women in the envy department, but men or women, we can take a lesson from this<i>: <\/i>Basil and Gregory \u201cmade capital\u201d out of their rivalry. And ended cheering for each other\u2019s successes. The excerpt closes with these words:<\/p>\n<p><i>Different men have different names, which they owe to their parents or to themselves, that is, to their own pursuits and achievements. But our great pursuit, the great name we wanted, was to be Christians, to be called Christians.<\/i><i>\u00a0<\/i> <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/thanks-to-father-barnes-i.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Father Barnes<\/a>\u2014no fan of filibustering and no regular at men\u2019s group\u2014once gave a homily about being called a Christian. He said that when the time comes for someone to say our eulogies, all we should want is to be \u201ccalled Christians.\u201d The rest of the details\u2014what we did, who we knew, what we accomplished\u2014are trivial. \u201cHe was a Christian\u201d should be good enough for us. It was good enough for Sts. 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