{"id":17170,"date":"2013-09-25T12:01:37","date_gmt":"2013-09-25T17:01:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/?p=17170"},"modified":"2017-01-24T17:14:14","modified_gmt":"2017-01-24T22:14:14","slug":"joe-six-pack-unpacks-pope-franciss-interview-part-i","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2013\/09\/joe-six-pack-unpacks-pope-franciss-interview-part-i.html","title":{"rendered":"Joe Six-Pack Unpacks Pope Francis’s Interview (Part I) UPDATED"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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Pope Francis knows who really pays our bills\u2026<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>

\u201cI do not know what might be the most fitting description\u2026.I am a sinner. This is the most accurate definition. It is not a figure of speech, a literary genre. I am a sinner.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Pope Francis\u2019s candid answer to the first question of the interview read \u2019round the world<\/a> set the tone for all that would follow.<\/p>\n

I like to think that I\u2019m not the only one to notice the simularity between the first question of Fr. Antonio Spadaro, S.J. and the passage from Matthew\u2019s gospel when Jesus asks, \u201cWho do people say that the Son of Man is<\/a>?\u201d<\/p>\n

Of interest to me is that Pope Francis did not wish to dwell upon the question of who he is. Instead, he stated the simple truth about himself, and vicariously that of his entire flock, and pointed consistantly away from himself in deference to that which is greater than himself. It seems fitting for the captain of the greatest hospital ship the world has ever know, whom he has been chosen to helm, to point to Her and away from himself.<\/p>\n

I am a sinner whom the Lord has looked upon. I am one who is looked upon by the Lord. I always felt my motto, Miserando atque Eligendo [By Having Mercy and by Choosing Him], was very true for me.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Pope\u2019s description of the Jesuit Order as being \u201can institution in tension\u201d is true for the Catholic Church as a whole as well. His simple, humble, and casual description of the Society, which I read as the same as for the Church as a whole. Because it fits, see? Just replace \u201cJesuit\u201d with \u201cChristian,\u201d and \u201cSociety of Jesus\u201d with \u201cthe Catholic Church,\u201d and it should be clear.<\/p>\n

\u201c\u2026the Jesuit (Christian) always thinks, again and again, looking at the horizon toward which he must go, with Christ at the center. This is his real strength. And that pushes the Society (Church) to be searching, creative and generous. So now, more than ever, the Society of Jesus (Catholic Church) must be contemplative in action, must live a profound closeness to the whole church as both the \u2018people of God\u2019 and \u2018holy mother the hierarchical church.\u2019 This requires much humility, sacrifice and courage, especially when you are misunderstood or you are the subject of misunderstandings and slanders, but that is the most fruitful attitude.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

One of the most interesting parts of the interview to me was the subject of thinking like the Church<\/em>. Being conformed to the mind of Christ is the lifelong pursuit of a Christian. If it isn\u2019t, then something is wrong. Both here on earth, and throughout all eternity, this is what we should seek, putting no other gods before Him. So when Pope Francis says,<\/p>\n

Thinking with the church, therefore, is my way of being a part of this people. And all the faithful, considered as a whole, are infallible in matters of belief, and the people display this infallibilitas in credendo<\/em>, this infallibility in believing, through a supernatural sense of the faith of all the people walking together.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I say Amen. But quickly on the heels of that, I wonder, \u201cbut how?\u201d<\/p>\n

Catechism time.<\/p>\n

THE CHURCH, MOTHER AND TEACHER<\/strong><\/p>\n

2030<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0It is in the Church, in communion with all the baptized, that the Christian fulfills his vocation. From the Church he receives the Word of God containing the teachings of \u201cthe law of Christ.\u201d72<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0From the Church he \"\"<\/a>receives the grace of the sacraments that sustains him on the \u201cway.\u201d From the Church he learns the\u00a0example of holiness<\/em>\u00a0and recognizes its model and source in the all-holy Virgin Mary; he discerns it in the authentic witness of those who live it; he discovers it in the spiritual tradition and long history of the saints who have gone before him and whom the liturgy celebrates in the rhythms of the sanctoral cycle.<\/p>\n

2031<\/a><\/strong> The moral life is spiritual worship<\/em>. We \u201cpresent [our] bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God,\u201d73<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0within the Body of Christ that we form and in communion with the offering of his Eucharist. In the liturgy and the celebration of the sacraments, prayer and teaching are conjoined with the grace of Christ to enlighten and nourish Christian activity. As does the whole of the Christian life, the moral life finds its source and summit in the Eucharistic sacrifice.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It\u2019s been good reading the Catechism during the Year of Faith, though it\u2019s sad that some folks thought this was a bad idea<\/a>, you know, like some think far reaching papal interviews are a bad idea.<\/p>\n

But when the Pope tells the world that the Church is a Mother and Teacher, folks who don\u2019t realize this is nothing new<\/a> may get the wrong idea. For the inquisitive Christian, the question \u201chow can I do this?\u201d pops up. With the big four secular news agencies who recieved advance copies of the papal interview (the New York Times, CNN, AP, and the Wall Street Journal<\/a>)? Not so much.<\/p>\n

See, to them, Pope Francis\u2019s words were a lot like the Beatles singing \u201cRoll up! Roll up for the Mystery Tour<\/a>!\u201d Of course, that is a good thing, if it gets folks looking deeper. Pope Francis knew what he was talking about, and so must us we Seaman Apprentice Catholics. To wit,<\/p>\n

I. MORAL LIFE AND THE MAGISTERIUM OF THE CHURCH<\/strong><\/p>\n

2032<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0The Church, the \u201cpillar and bulwark of the truth<\/a>,\u201d \u201chas received this solemn command of Christ from the apostles to announce the saving truth.\u201d74<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0\u201cTo the Church belongs the right always and everywhere to announce moral principles, including those pertaining to the social order, and to make judgments on any human affairs to the extent that they are required by the fundamental rights of the human person or the salvation of souls.\u201d75<\/sup><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Salvation of souls is Job One. This is obvious to Pope Francis, as his handy guide for homiletics for pastors in the interview made clear. And in order to get these ideas across,<\/p>\n

The first reform must be the attitude. The ministers of the Gospel must be people who can warm the hearts of the people, who walk through the dark night with them, who know how to dialogue and to descend themselves into their people\u2019s night, into the darkness, but without getting lost. The people of God want pastors, not clergy acting like bureaucrats or government officials. The bishops, particularly, must be able to support the movements of God among their people with patience, so that no one is left behind. But they must also be able to accompany the flock that has a flair for finding new paths.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Because as the Catechism puts it,<\/p>\n

2033<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0The\u00a0Magisterium of the Pastors of the Church<\/em>\u00a0in moral matters is ordinarily exercised in catechesis and preaching, with the help of the works of theologians and spiritual authors. Thus from generation to generation, under the aegis and vigilance of the pastors, the \u201cdeposit\u201d of Christian moral teaching has been handed on, a deposit composed of a characteristic body of rules, commandments, and virtues proceeding from faith in Christ and animated by charity. Alongside the Creed and the Our Father, the basis for this catechesis has traditionally been the Decalogue<\/a> which sets out the principles of moral life valid for all men.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Which is why the sex abuse scandal, and it\u2019s ongoing, seemingly never ending revelations of \u201cclergy acting like bureaucrats or government officials,\u201d is so damaging to the ship\u2019s company, and the ship\u2019s physical integrity.<\/p>\n

Juxtaposed against what Pope Francis is saying nowadays, the revelations of coverups in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles<\/a>, Archdiocese of Newark<\/a>, the Jesuits in Chicago<\/a> and the latest example of bureaucratic blunders in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis<\/a>, destroy the bridges of trust that the Church\u2019s teachings are ordained to build. It erodes the trust of the sheep for their shepherds, and makes us question whether we just talk a good game, or if we\u2019ll actually do the hard work of putting the gospel to work in the world.<\/p>\n

2034<\/strong>\u00a0The Roman Pontiff and the bishops are \u201cauthentic teachers, that is, teachers endowed with the authority of Christ, who preach the faith to the people entrusted to them, the faith to be believed and put into practice.\u201d76<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0The\u00a0ordinary\u00a0<\/em>and universal\u00a0Magisterium\u00a0<\/em>of the Pope and the bishops in communion with him teach the faithful the truth to believe, the charity to practice, the beatitude to hope for.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And when the bishops teach the truth, and fail to honor the truth with actions and with mere words, \u201cthe people display this infallibilitas in credendo<\/em>, this infallibility in believing, through a supernatural sense of the faith of all the people walking together,\u201d that justice is not being done. <\/a>\"\"Justice for the victims of abuse requires that the perpetrators of harm be medevaced out<\/em> of the field hospital and transferred to a major, full bells and whistles hospital away from the front lines. Otherwise, we\u2019ll be stuck back in the situation that the prophet Hosea warned about back when he was preaching prior to the Assyrian conquest.<\/p>\n

Yet let no one contend,
\nand let none accuse,
\nfor with you is my contention, O priest.
\nYou shall stumble by day;
\nthe prophet also shall stumble with you by night,
\nand I will destroy your mother.
\nMy people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
\nbecause you have rejected knowledge,
\nI reject you from being a priest to me.
\nAnd since you have forgotten the law of your God,
\nI also will forget your children.
\nThe more they increased,
\nthe more they sinned against me;
\nthey changed their glory into shame.
\nThey feed on the sin of my people;
\nthey are greedy for their iniquity.
\nAnd it shall be like people, like priest;
\nI will punish them for their ways,
\nand repay them for their deeds.
\nThey shall eat, but not be satisfied;
\nthey shall play the whore, but not multiply;
\nbecause they have forsaken the Lord
\nto devote themselves to whoredom.
\nWine and new wine
\ntake away the understanding.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ouch. But wait, there\u2019s more.<\/p>\n

Hear this, priests,
\nPay attention, house of Israel,
\nHousehold of the king, give ear!
\nFor you are responsible for judgment.
\nBut you have been a snare at Mizpah,
\na net spread upon Tabor,
\na pit dug deep in Shittim.
\nNow I will discipline them all<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

But as Pope Francis points out, there is Good News nowadays, just like there was when these words were proclaimed by Hosea.<\/p>\n

\u201cCome, let us return to the LORD,<\/p>\n

For it is he who has torn, but he will heal us;
\nhe has struck down, but he will bind our wounds.<\/p>\n

He will revive us after two days;
\non the third day he will raise us up,
\nto live in his presence.<\/p>\n

Let us know, let us strive to know the LORD;
\nas certain as the dawn is his coming.
\nHe will come to us like the rain,
\nlike spring rain that waters the earth.\u201d<\/p>\n

What can I do with you, Ephraim?
\nWhat can I do with you, Judah?
\nYour loyalty is like morning mist,
\nlike the dew that disappears early.<\/p>\n

For this reason I struck them down through the prophets,
\nI killed them by the words of my mouth;
\nmy judgment shines forth like the light.<\/p>\n

For it is loyalty that I desire, not sacrifice,
\nand knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Like the healing balm of Pope Francis\u2019s message to a prodigal people. A people who deep down, if we are honest with ourselves, know the truth of our condition. Cue today\u2019s reading from the prophet Ezra,<\/p>\n

At the time of the evening sacrifice, I, Ezra, rose in my wretchedness,
\nand with cloak and mantle torn I fell on my knees,
\nstretching out my hands to the LORD, my God.<\/p>\n

I said: \u201cMy God, I am too ashamed and confounded to raise my face to you,
\nO my God, for our wicked deeds are heaped up above our heads
\nand our guilt reaches up to heaven.
\nFrom the time of our fathers even to this day
\ngreat has been our guilt,
\nand for our wicked deeds we have been delivered up,
\nwe and our kings and our priests,
\nto the will of the kings of foreign lands,
\nto the sword, to captivity, to pillage, and to disgrace,
\nas is the case today.<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd now, but a short time ago, mercy came to us from the LORD, our God,
\nwho left us a remnant and gave us a stake in his holy place;
\nthus our God has brightened our eyes
\nand given us relief in our servitude.
\nFor slaves we are, but in our servitude our God has not abandoned us;
\nrather, he has turned the good will
\nof the kings of Persia toward us.
\nThus he has given us new life
\nto raise again the house of our God and restore its ruins,
\nand has granted us a fence in Judah and Jerusalem.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

For today\u2019s Gospel reading resonates with Pope Francis\u2019s field hospital metaphor as well,<\/p>\n

Jesus summoned the Twelve and gave them power and authority
\nover all demons and to cure diseases,
\nand he sent them to proclaim the Kingdom of God
\nand to heal the sick.
\nHe said to them, \u201cTake nothing for the journey,
\nneither walking stick, nor sack, nor food, nor money,
\nand let no one take a second tunic.
\nWhatever house you enter, stay there and leave from there.
\nAnd as for those who do not welcome you,
\nwhen you leave that town,
\nshake the dust from your feet in testimony against them.\u201d
\nThen they set out and went from village to village
\nproclaiming the good news and curing diseases everywhere.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Amen. Amazing how Pope Francis is so attuned to the mind of the Church. Amateur tip: Reading the daily readings can help us do the same.<\/p>\n

Stay tuned for more unpacking<\/a>.<\/p>\n

RELATED:<\/p>\n

Why People Were Wrong and Right to Be Outraged by the Priest Scandal<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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