{"id":706,"date":"2011-06-19T14:30:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-19T14:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2011\/06\/a-reply-to-a-scold-from-a-priest-regarding-the-corapi-kerfuffle\/"},"modified":"2017-01-24T18:23:06","modified_gmt":"2017-01-24T23:23:06","slug":"a-reply-to-a-scold-from-a-priest-regarding-the-corapi-kerfuffle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/yimcatholic\/2011\/06\/a-reply-to-a-scold-from-a-priest-regarding-the-corapi-kerfuffle.html","title":{"rendered":"A Reply to a Scold from a Priest Regarding the Corapi Kerfuffle"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-fjksW7TzAdg\/Tf4u5MF0WVI\/AAAAAAAAB0I\/mZWDDl_eZ_4\/s1600\/scolding.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"162\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-fjksW7TzAdg\/Tf4u5MF0WVI\/AAAAAAAAB0I\/mZWDDl_eZ_4\/s200\/scolding.jpg\" width=\"200\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: right\"><i><a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2010\/05\/for-thoughts-like-these-on-trinity.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u2014Feast of the Holy Trinity<\/a> \u00a0<\/i><\/div>\n<p>I hadn\u2019t intended to write another word about John Corapi. In fact, I even closed off the comments in my recent post and left readers links to follow the story so I could just enjoy my Father\u2019s Day in peace. That was the plan, anyway.<\/p>\n<p>But I received an e-mail this morning from a Catholic priest upset over my \u201cMr. Corpai Goes. I Stay\u201d post. As you will find in the sidebar, I subscribe to the well known <i>Welborn Protocol<\/i> when it comes to correspondence. So here is the note in it\u2019s entirety followed by my reply.<br><a name=\"more\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><br><i>Frank,<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Your comments regarding Fr. Corapi are remarkably cruel.  Once an accusation is made, the priest is automatically suspended period.  The suspension is indefinite.  It is not the priest\u2019s choice in any way.  He may not wear clerical garb, use any honorific titles, preach or engage in any sort of sacramental ministry.  The priest is at a disadvantage from the get-go and rarely if ever is vindicated.  Thank the good Lord Corapi is a religious in that he can return to his community so he has a place to live and food.  Diocesan priests in his situation do not have that to fall back on.<\/p>\n<p>The magnitude of the injustice is hard to fathom.  Everyone has a right to his reputation and his good name.<\/p>\n<p>Whether or not Fr. Corapi\u2019s message, style, and ministry appealed to you is beside the point.  Yes, life will indeed go on whether or not he is preaching, etc.  But to write in such a cavalier fashion about a priest\u2019s life and ministry that is now thoroughly destroyed is really mean spirited.<\/p>\n<p>You do no service to the Faith by writing as you did regarding Fr. Corapi.<\/p>\n<p>In His Name,<\/p>\n<p>Fr. B<\/p>\n<p>Dear Father B,<\/p>\n<p>I appreciate your note, though I am at a loss to see how I was as \u201ccruel\u201d with Corapi as you feel I was. Actually, I didn\u2019t even get warmed up. Indeed, the post that I believe <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/mr-john-corapi-goes-i-stay.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">you are referring to<\/a> is only the second time I have ever even written about the Corapi kurfuffle. <\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: right;margin-left: 1em;text-align: right\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-TcAmQZJmSHw\/Tf40LMOURqI\/AAAAAAAAB0M\/WEWEQlMDDu8\/s1600\/medevac_chopper.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"131\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-TcAmQZJmSHw\/Tf40LMOURqI\/AAAAAAAAB0M\/WEWEQlMDDu8\/s200\/medevac_chopper.jpeg\" width=\"200\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center\">Help a brother out!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>In the first instance, I wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2011\/03\/for-10-things-to-do-while-fr-corapi-is.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a lay pastoral note<\/a>, if there is such a thing, to those who followed him, giving them suggestions on how to spend their time strengthening their life of faith. I hope you do not find fault with that. Surely brothers and sisters in the faith <a href=\"http:\/\/bible.cc\/1_thessalonians\/5-11.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">must encourage one another<\/a> when the going get\u2019s rocky.<\/p>\n<p>And in Corapi\u2019s case, he knows who his accuser is. He\u2019s said so repeatedly, and even said in his latest announcement that she is \u201cthe one person that I can honestly say I did more to help and support than any human being in my entire life.\u201d Honesty, after all, is the best policy. As for the investigation process, I look <a href=\"http:\/\/pilgrimsfootsteps.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/fr-corapi-soft-you-word-or-two-before.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">to others for guidance.<\/a> I humbly know my limitations.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m just a simple man, Fr. B, and a relatively new Catholic. One of the many things that impresses me about Catholic priests and religious is that they take vows of Chastity, Poverty, and Obedience. They sacrifice much for the reward of leading people in the faith. The priests bring us the Sacraments, so that our travail in this valley of tears through life on earth are made bearable. Thanks be to God for this.<\/p>\n<p>Later on, I learned that <a href=\"http:\/\/youngfogeys.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/fr-corapi-and-bigger-issue.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">not all priests take the vow of poverty<\/a>. Though most Diocesan priests aren\u2019t exactly wealthy, some are. Either way, the same safety net that is extended to every citizen of this country is extended to priests and religious as well. Unemployment compensation, Social Security, etc. All are covered, including unemployed priests. I\u2019m not sure if Mr. Corapi qualifies for unemployment now that he has resigned from the priesthood though. I think you actually have to lose your job for a different reason than quitting it in order to collect unemployment compensation. I could be wrong on this.<\/p>\n<p>Anyhow, as the Corapi kerfuffle continued to unfold, I ran into other stories about how not only did Corapi not take a vow of poverty, but that he set up a \u201cfor-profit\u201d media empire instead. That he lived in a sumptuous mansion and estate out West. Owning multiple homes and, for all I know, maybe he has a private helicopter too. Granted, I don\u2019t know whether these stories are all true or not (I hope the truth all comes to light somehow), but I understand that the order he was affiliated with, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.societyofourlady.net\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity<\/a>, basically didn\u2019t make a single penny from all of the books, tapes, and speaking engagements that he sold over the course of his career as a Catholic priest. <\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: right;margin-left: 1em;text-align: right\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-ecNrtwq9ul0\/Tf41lO2VlcI\/AAAAAAAAB0Q\/e8pmJSZ6jdY\/s1600\/elmer-gantry.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"167\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-ecNrtwq9ul0\/Tf41lO2VlcI\/AAAAAAAAB0Q\/e8pmJSZ6jdY\/s200\/elmer-gantry.jpeg\" width=\"200\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center\">Feed me $$$, sheep.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>As a rookie lay Catholic, I\u2019m not sure why anyone in the Church heirarchy would give any priest <i>carte blanch<\/i> to make a ton of money off the flock, you know, Elmer Gantry style, that didn\u2019t somehow wind up helping the poor in Mother Teresa\u2019s mission field, or in some other way that helped spread the Good News to the world. This raises serious questions in my mind. Questions that I hope those who are better versed, and who have deeper knowledge in these matters than I, pursue and bring to resolution. I\u2019m just Joe Six-Pack, USMC. At best, all I can do is handle ridiculous pseudo-dramas like this in a cavalier manner.<\/p>\n<p>As the drama continued to spin, frequently from late Friday afternoon Scud missiles launched from Corapi\u2019s lair <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/deaconsbench\/2011\/03\/25\/fr-corapi-update-the-unsubstantiated-rant-of-a-former-employee\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">at Santa Cruz Media<\/a>, there were other things I heard as time went on. Like when someone in the past had busted Corapi\u2019s chops when he had claimed to have enlisted in the Army with a guarantee for Special Forces training. But, as the Corapi version of the story goes, due to a training accident (an unlikely one involving a helicopter) he wound up as a clerk-typist in Germany instead, making outstanding clerk-typists, who serve in the military with honor the world over, look bad in the bargain. If this episode, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pownetwork.org\/phonies\/phonies344.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">claiming Special Forces training and black-belt fighting skills, etc.<\/a> is true Father, then it is just plain wrong. <\/p>\n<p>News flash: No one enlists with guarantees for Special Forces training. Not in my military experience anyway. No, first you endure all the regular training, spend some time in your specialty, and only then can you apply for, and appear before selection boards for, special duties like I did <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/to-pray-for-people-of-egypt.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">when I became a Marine Security Guard.<\/a> Anyone who claims that they were guaranteed the Green Beret in the local Army recruiters office definitely does not pass the \u201csmell test.\u201d That is unless you\u2019re looking for the <a href=\"http:\/\/catholicforum.fisheaters.com\/index.php?topic=2839800.30\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cStinky Cheese Man.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0I am not.<\/p>\n<p>So now, a short three months later, the world learns that Corapi is giving up his vocation as a Catholic priest, and instead is launching a new, and I reckon \u201cimproved,\u201d venture with a new name and a creepy photograph of a (dyed?) black canine eyeing sheep and wolves with equally malevolent stares. So I said what you perceived as a cruel thing:<\/p>\n<p><i>As for me and my house, we won\u2019t be waiting for salvation via Pirate Radio broadcasts from Mr. John Corapi anytime soon. We\u2019ve better things to do. <a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/because-these-words-paul-wrote-are.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">And better speeches to read.<\/a><\/i><\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: right;margin-left: 1em;text-align: right\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-6JT4Zb8gs-A\/Tf47bk_GoNI\/AAAAAAAAB0U\/Z8LJGZVedZw\/s1600\/darth.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"186\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-6JT4Zb8gs-A\/Tf47bk_GoNI\/AAAAAAAAB0U\/Z8LJGZVedZw\/s200\/darth.jpeg\" width=\"200\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center\">Happy Fathers Day!<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Guess what else we won\u2019t be doing? Buying his books and tapes to hear his side of the story. You know how the Dark Lord monologue will go. On and on about how he has been unjustly treated by the evil bishops who felt threatened by his zeal for all the <i>Truth, Goodness, and Beauty\u2122<\/i> (registered trademark by BlackDogUp! Enterprises) that he was bringing to the flock. Time for a reprise of my other cruel remark:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYawn.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Have a listen to this classic by Nick Lowe before moving on to the next segment of my reply, if you please.<\/p>\n<p><code><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"590\" height=\"360\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/w1lof5Ho1Jw?rel=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/code><\/p>\n<p>Yes indeed, I reckon sometimes we must be cruel to be kind, <i>in the right measure<\/i>. Get angry a bit, because it is no sin to get angry. Christ was angered when the temple was being used as a marketplace. <a href=\"http:\/\/bible.cc\/john\/2-15.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">As the scriptures note<\/a>, He broke out a whip and scrambled that egg with a wrath that cleaned house rather dramatically. Would have made a big impression on me, if I would have witnessed it. That\u2019s for sure.<\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: right;margin-left: 1em;text-align: right\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-WR_5aHv6WI0\/Tf48oo6H0FI\/AAAAAAAAB0Y\/5f9Q-5uzAwE\/s1600\/Alexander_Pope_circa_1736-1.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-WR_5aHv6WI0\/Tf48oo6H0FI\/AAAAAAAAB0Y\/5f9Q-5uzAwE\/s200\/Alexander_Pope_circa_1736-1.jpeg\" width=\"166\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/yimcatholic.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/lines-on-pride-from-alexander-popes.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Eyes like these<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>No Father B., I was not cruel. I was not even angered by what John Corapi did. I didn\u2019t sit around expectantly on the edge of my seat for these past three months waiting to see what the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/theanchoress\/2011\/03\/21\/36-hours-after-corapi-stormfall\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201clast hope for our Church\u201d<\/a> would do next. Why? To quote a speech I heard recently, <\/p>\n<p><i>It\u2019s that dead look in my eyes, from all the horrors that I have seen, so I\u2019m sort of immune to it. Gentlemen to bed! Gentlemen to bed, for we leave at first light. Tomorrow we battle. We may lose our lives, but remember\u2026Death is but a moment; cowardice is a lifetime affliction.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, that is a made up speech <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DjZ_Mmjs3bc\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">from a silly movie<\/a>, but rousing nonetheless. But St. Paul\u2019s words from a few days back are the ones that stand us in good stead and last forever. I shared those too, in my alleged cruelty as you may recall,<\/p>\n<p><i>dangers from Gentiles, dangers in the city,<br>dangers in the wilderness, dangers at sea,<br><b>dangers among false brothers;<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Is John Corapi a false brother? I don\u2019t know. He\u2019s not a member of the priesthood any longer, that is for sure. Is he still a Catholic, loyal to the Magisterium? I don\u2019t know that either. He\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/fr.-corapi-announces-hes-leaving-the-priesthood\/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+catholicnewsagency%2Fdailynews+%28CNA+Daily+News%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">kind of vague on that<\/a> in his announcement. All that is known for sure points to him <i>not<\/i> being loyal to anyone but himself. Not to his (former) office as a priest (while you soldier on, my brother!), not to his superiors, nor to his order, and not even to his flock of followers, who at last count on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/Fr-John-Corapi\/206649871257\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">his Facebook fan page<\/a>, stand at 52,800+ souls.<\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: right;margin-left: 1em;text-align: right\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-swOW98DVQKM\/Tf4-Kz91kPI\/AAAAAAAAB0c\/tnSWoj9VU5k\/s1600\/Khan2285.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"164\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-swOW98DVQKM\/Tf4-Kz91kPI\/AAAAAAAAB0c\/tnSWoj9VU5k\/s200\/Khan2285.jpg\" width=\"200\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center\">I wear my gray hair proudly<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>In fact, to my simple mind and simple ways, the cruelest cut of all came from the blow Mr. Corapi\u2019s announcement made to his large and loyal flock of followers. Simple folk, such as myself, who believed  in this man. Now what is in store for them Father B? Should they stay loyal to Mother Church? Or follow the Black Sheep Dog, who for all we know will hit them next with a message such as this,<\/p>\n<p><i>He tasks me! He tasks me, and I shall have him! I\u2019ll chase him round the Moons of Nibia, and round the Antares Maelstrom, and round perdition\u2019s flames before I give him up! Prepare to alter course! <br>\u2014Khan Noonien Singh, in Star Trek II, riffing off Herman Melville\u2019s Captain Ahab from <b>Moby Dick.<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>No. I won\u2019t be following any comic book characters anywhere Father. Not Darth Vader, not Dr. Evil, Not Kahn nor Captain Ahab. I follow Jesus Christ and His Church. I\u2019m loyal to Him and to Her. I\u2019ll continue to study His Word, and His message. That way, see, when somebody goes off-message, I\u2019ll be able to recite with clarity and authority, these words of an immortal soldier,<\/p>\n<p><i>Now, therefore, fear the LORD and serve him completely and sincerely. Cast out the gods your fathers served beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. If it does not please you to serve the LORD, decide today whom you will serve, the gods your fathers served beyond the River or the gods of the Amorites in whose country you are dwelling. <\/i><\/p>\n<p>As for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.\u201d \u2014Joshua 24:14-15.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you again for your note. Have a happy Fathers Day and a blessed Holy Trinity Sunday. Please pray for me and for all who have been affected by this unfortunate incident. I am,<\/p>\n<p>His Obedient Servant,<\/p>\n<p>Frank<\/p>\n<p><b>Update:\u00a0<\/b> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/deaconsbench\/2011\/06\/19\/following-the-black-sheep-dog-down-the-rabbit-hole\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Following the Black Sheep Dog Down the Rabbit Hole<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b><i>Breaking News:<\/i><\/b> <i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/daily-news\/father-corapis-bombshell\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Corapi\u2019s superior: \u201cWe wanted him to come back to the community\u2026<\/a>\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/6738513599344023043-337052174786015616?l=yimcatholic.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2014Feast of the Holy Trinity \u00a0 I hadn\u2019t intended to write another word about John Corapi. 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