{"id":2218,"date":"2025-04-10T08:32:00","date_gmt":"2025-04-10T13:32:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/youmightberight\/?p=2218"},"modified":"2025-04-10T08:36:14","modified_gmt":"2025-04-10T13:36:14","slug":"spirituality-stock-market","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/youmightberight\/2025\/04\/spirituality-stock-market\/","title":{"rendered":"Spirituality and the Stock Market"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Buddhist Ken Wilber compares spirituality to the stock market. Wilber says that, over the long haul, there is a slow upward trend. Over the short haul, there can be considerable pain and suffering. This week, we discuss the parallels between spirituality and the stock market, and we introduce the Buddhist understanding of pain and suffering. Next week, we will expand on this theme.<\/p>\n<p>Everyone experiences pain, notably birth, sickness, old age and death. Along the way, all of us experience other types of pain, including addictions, business failures, divorces, financial losses, mental health struggles, natural disasters and relationship problems. Whereas pain describes something that happens to us, suffering describes how we respond to our pain.<\/p>\n<p>Many of us have been experiencing pain and suffering in the last few months.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2230\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2230\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-2230\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/2190\/2025\/04\/brown-bear-7591629_1280-1024x724.jpg\" alt=\"The markets do NOT like uncertainty. Image from Pixabay\/ambquinn\" width=\"640\" height=\"453\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2230\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The markets do NOT like uncertainty. Image from Pixabay\/ambquinn<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2 aria-label=\"Post Title: \u2018Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u2019 meaning?\" aria-describedby=\"feed-post-credit-bar-t3_engkqh\">Everyone Suffers<\/h2>\n<p aria-label=\"Post Title: \u2018Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u2019 meaning?\" aria-describedby=\"feed-post-credit-bar-t3_engkqh\">Jesus sought to relieve suffering. But contemporary Christianity sometimes <em>embraces<\/em> suffering, maybe even <em>welcomes<\/em> it. \u201cGod\u2019s ways are not our ways. Pray better, or pray harder. Jesus suffered. Jesus suffers with you. His suffering was worse than yours. Maybe you deserve your suffering. Maybe your suffering lets God accomplish a greater good. Your suffering will be rewarded.\u201d<\/p>\n<p aria-label=\"Post Title: \u2018Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u2019 meaning?\" aria-describedby=\"feed-post-credit-bar-t3_engkqh\">Contemporary Christianity sometimes <em>rationalizes<\/em> suffering, too. \u201cYour suffering must be God\u2019s will. Someone else\u2019s lack of suffering must also be God\u2019s will.\u201d But, practically, for many of us,\u00a0 none of these platitudes help to relieve actual suffering in the real world, here and now.<\/p>\n<p aria-label=\"Post Title: \u2018Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u2019 meaning?\" aria-describedby=\"feed-post-credit-bar-t3_engkqh\">Before I adopted a Zen practice, I never understood the Buddhist emphasis on suffering. Then, I read a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Food-Heart-Collected-Teachings-Ajahn\/dp\/0861713230\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">Buddhist book<\/a> while I was suffering, and it all made sense.<\/p>\n<p id=\"post-title-t3_engkqh\" class=\"font-semibold text-neutral-content-strong m-0 text-18 xs:text-24 mb-xs px-md xs:px-0 xs:mb-md overflow-hidden\" aria-label=\"Post Title: \u2018Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u2019 meaning?\" aria-describedby=\"feed-post-credit-bar-t3_engkqh\">The Buddha\u2019s <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Four Noble Truths<\/a> focus on suffering. Everyone suffers. Suffering comes from attachment, craving and ignorance. Suffering ends when we stop attachment, craving and ignorance. We stop attachment, craving and ignorance when we pursue the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Eightfold Path<\/a>, eight guidelines involving wisdom, ethical practice and mental discipline.<\/p>\n<p aria-label=\"Post Title: \u2018Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u2019 meaning?\" aria-describedby=\"feed-post-credit-bar-t3_engkqh\">\u201cBefore enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water\u201d is a famous Buddhist saying. The saying encourages us to focus on the present moment. In that way, we enjoy even the most mundane tasks, and we tolerate even the most unpleasant tasks. Similarly, the Hindu scriptures encourage us to focus on actions rather than the results of actions.<\/p>\n<h2>Ken Wilber Compares Spirituality and the Stock Market<\/h2>\n<p>Ken Wilber, a Buddhist philosopher, believes that human history shows slow but steady material, intellectual, and spiritual progress. In many ways, we experience less suffering than our ancestors. \u201cIt\u2019s sort of like the stock market,\u201d he explained. \u201cYou know that over the long haul there is a slow upward trend, even though there are great depressions and nightmares and all this kind of stuff.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I spent 25 years working in the financial markets and 40 years investing in the financial markets. So, Wilber\u2019s comparison of spirituality and the stock market resonates with me. More to the point, it helps to illustrate the difference between pain and suffering.<\/p>\n<p>As I write this, the President imposed burdensome tariffs on our trading partners. He imposed tariffs during his first term, with little consequence, but these are more extreme and less defensible. (Every 100 years or so, a Republican President imposes tariffs. In 1930, tariffs deepened the Great Depression. Over 90% of economists believe that tariffs are NOT good for the economy.)<\/p>\n<p>A bear market is defined as a 20% or more decline from a recent high. The NASDAQ was in a bear market, the S&amp;P 500 was close to a bear market, and the Dow was approaching a bear market, before the tariffs were reversed. Worse, the scale of the tariffs and the reckless manner in which they were imposed (and reversed) has introduced a considerable amount of uncertainty.<\/p>\n<h2>Pain and Suffering<\/h2>\n<p>The markets do NOT like uncertainty. If investors can NOT confidently assess risk and value assets, then the stock market becomes \u201ca random number generator, not a reliable measure of value.\u201d In addition to short term damage to jobs, prices and stocks, uncertainty can erode long-term confidence here and abroad. Problems in the stock market are spilling over into the bond market.<\/p>\n<p>Today, most of us are experiencing the pain of financial losses or the threat of financial losses. Some of us are also experiencing suffering. And there might be more pain and suffering ahead.<\/p>\n<p>Investor Ray Dalio suggests that investors do NOT realize this \u201conce-in-a-lifetime\u201d breakdown of monetary, political and geopolitical orders. Perhaps we have not experienced a return to normal\u00a0 because we are establishing a new (post-tariff) normal, well below the normal that we experienced for the last 100 years.\u00a0 If so, stock prices might fall further as they adjust to this new normal.<\/p>\n<p>As Wilber says, over the long haul, there is a slow upward trend. But how long is the long haul? In recent history, stocks quickly recovered from bear markets. However, in Herbert Hoover\u2019s time (in which the Smoot-Hawley tariffs were imposed), the Dow did NOT return to its previous highs until 1954, a period of 25 years. Where will you be in 25 years? I\u2019ll probably be dead.<\/p>\n<p>This week, we discussed the parallels between spirituality and the stock market, and we introduced the Buddhist understanding of pain and suffering. Next week, we will expand on this theme.<\/p>\n<p>How can the Buddhist understanding of suffering help us to cope with the pain that all of us experience in our everyday life?<\/p>\n<p>Good question. More to come. 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