Goodbye Treasure Valley

Goodbye Treasure Valley September 27, 2019


Moving sucks.

But, you already knew that, I’m sure.

Wendy and I moved to Boise, Idaho a year ago. We left behind our house church family, our two sons in college, and 25 years of our life in Southern California to take a new job that seemed too good to be true. [It was].

So, since January of this year I’ve been focused on growing my freelance copywriting business, writing and publishing two new books, starting online courses based on my previous books, and blogging for Patheos…among other things.

I’ve likened this phase to walking on water, because somehow we are making it financially even though I’m still not 100 percent sure how. But, this is something I’ve dreamed of doing for a few years now – writing and working as a full-time author, speaker, teacher and blogger – and it’s finally coming together.

That’s one good thing about our trip to Idaho and our last 12 months of shifting from working a job to writing full-time. I don’t think I could have ever turned the corner if we didn’t have any other choice but to make this work. So, for that I am grateful for the experience, even if it was pretty scary and very painful to go through.

Today, Wendy and I are loading up a very large moving van and preparing to pack everything up – again – and move to El Paso, Texas over the weekend.

Wendy and I first met in El Paso, TX. It’s where we both attended high school and college at UT El Paso. It’s where we first fell in love, got married and started our life together 30 years ago this October.

You could say we are going back to Square 1. [Which, coincidentally, is the name of the new 90 Day online coaching program I’ve put together to help people move from Deconstruction to Reconstruction. This also starts next week while we’re unpacking our stuff in our brand-new El Paso home. Weird, huh?]

But, as we prepare to say goodbye to the Treasure Valley [Boise and Meridian, Idaho], there are a few things we will miss:

*Our Idahome Church family – These 2 couples – Mark and Marcia and Michael and Claudia – have been a source of life and light to us here. We can hardly imagine saying goodbye to these wonderful human beings who so eagerly embraced us and welcomed us into their hearts and homes during our time here.

*Our friends Craig Morton, Thomas J. Oord, Dean and Judi Estes, and Nick and Laura Armstrong of Peace Catalyst International. – These people are amazing. They shared our hearts for Jesus and a passion for serving and standing for the Gospel of the Kingdom. We will really miss our coffee and lunch conversations with all of these dear people.

*The Wright Family – We’ve known this amazing family for about 18 years or so. Having first met them before we started the house church, and then sharing that experience with them and then saying goodbye to them when they first moved to Boise about 2 years ago, and then moving down the street from them a year ago when we moved here…it’s hard to imagine our journey without them. They’ve all been a huge blessing to us and we will miss our annual Octoberfest and Saint Patrick’s Day celebrations with them [which are way weirder and stranger than any mere mortal could ever comprehend].

*The Kabob House –

In our never-ending [and mostly fruitless] quest for great food in Boise, the Kabob House was our greatest discovery. But, I didn’t only find a great place to eat, I seriously made a new friend. Shams, the owner of Kabob House is a physician from Afghanistan. He moved to the United States with his wife and children a few years ago and started the restaurant with his family. He is a wonderful human being who embraced us and literally called me his brother the very first time we visited his establishment.

As we were leaving on that first night we met, he put his arms around me and patted my heart with his hand and told me: “You are Christian. I am Muslim. We are brothers. One God. One family. Jew, Muslim or Christian. No difference. One God. One family. You and I are brothers.”

Wow. I am really gonna miss that guy.

So, we’ll also miss the beautiful Boise River, and our frequent walks along the water. We’ll miss the beautiful green trees and grass in the summer, and the gorgeous orange and red leaves in the fall.

We regret that we didn’t really get to know our neighbors very well. [A few conversations here and there, but no deep connections, unfortunately]. We regret that we’ll have to learn to live without Trader Joe’s. [The closest one is in Albuquerque, NM, about hours away].

But, once we leave Idaho in our rear view mirror, we look forward to what God has in store for us back in El Paso, TX. We hope to start another house church there, and to have an impact on the community, and to serve the poor there, and to reform connections with old friends from college and high school who are still there.

Overall, this season in Idaho has been wonderful, except for a few rough patches here and there. We’re grateful for God’s grace to us while we were here, and we’re hopeful that our season in El Paso, Texas will be even more amazing and hopefully a bit less challenging than our time here has been.

The truth is: God is good to us, wherever we go and whatever we do. We know that God will lead us and bless us and pour out His grace on us no matter where we live. So, that gives us hope.

I’m just trying not to hyperventilate as I think about driving a huge truck from Idaho to Texas over three long days. Our hope is to take it slow and enjoy the ride. That’s probably good advice no matter where you live, or what you’re doing.

The next time I post here I’ll be blogging from our new home in Texas.



Keith Giles was formerly a licensed and ordained minister who walked away from organized church 11 years ago, to start a home fellowship that gave away 100% of the offering to the poor in the community. Today, He and his wife are returning to El Paso, TX after 25 years, as part of their next adventure.

Keith’s newest book, “Jesus Unveiled: Forsaking Church As We Know It For Ekklesia As God Intended” released on June 9, 2019 on Amazon, and features a Foreword by author Richard Jacobson.
Keith’s Podcast: Heretic Happy Hour Podcast is on iTunes and Podbean. 

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  • Herm

    This is a copy of a message I sent you under a reply to Iain.

    “KEITH, I know you’re travelling, and I wish you well, but Disgus just automatically put my last reply to Iain “waiting to be approved by” you. What is going on here? Please help.”

    If I am transgressing then I need to know why.

  • David M

    You are Christian. I am Muslim. We are brothers. One God. One family. Jew, Muslim or Christian. No difference. One God. One family. You and I are brothers.

    I don’t think that can pass without comment. This is, of course, a delicate issue but not one that can be ignored. Now, I am sure that the person who said that is a very decent person. However, the opinion he expressed is not one that any Christian should endorse. And if the process of “deconstruction” leads people to endorse that comment, then we need to be very concerned about it. Yes, there should be respect for all people regardless of their beliefs. But we can never say that there is “no difference”. There are not many paths to salvation; there is only one path and that is Christ. There can be no compromise on that.

  • Herm

    Luke 14:25-27 NIV
    Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: [26] “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. [27] And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.

    Matthew 12:48-50 NIV
    He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” [49] Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. [50] For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

    John 4:21-24 NIV
    “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. [22] You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. [23] Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. [24] God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

    Luke 10:25-28 NIV
    On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” [26] “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” [27] He answered, “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’ ; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” [28] “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

    Matthew 7:12 NIV
    So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

    David, according to the quoted teaching of the Messiah, as witnessed to from testimony in the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, John and Luke; Christians, Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews and Samaritans who love the Lord their God with all their spirit selves (the image of God made in all mankind) and like that, love their merciful neighbors as they love themselves (at minimum, doing to others as they would have others do to them), then they will live as sibling students of Jesus, learning to live according to their Father’s will, eternally.

    Not one of mankind is punished by all of God because they were born under the influence of any carnal institution, by any name. By those born to study the Christ, even if Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, Jesus is considered, at minimum, “a very decent person”.

    We aren’t saved because Jesus went to the cross for others, as he would have others go to the cross for him. We are saved, in the Spirit of truth, because we are willing to pick up our own cross for others, as we would have others pick up their cross for us, fulfilling the will of our heavenly Father.

    No carnal church’s interpretation of the Bible, theology, doctrine, ritual, or dogma can determine any of mankind’s salvation. Only when filled with the Holy Spirit can we know the Spirit of truth with and in us forever, live eternally and boldly speak the word of God today. It is not ours to judge the salvation of another. It is ours to each know our own salvation found only when we know Jesus in us, and us in Jesus (which can be done in spirit but not in physical). God, all of God, is spirit, not carnal.

  • David M

    According to the teaching of the Messiah, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. who love God and their neighbours as themselves will live as sibling students of Jesus, learning to live according to their Father’s will, eternally. At least, I think you were saying something like that. It’s a bit hard to tell because there was a “then” which implied a previous “if” that wasn’t actually there.

    But is that really what Jesus would want people to think? You also talk about being filled with the Holy Spirit. Are Muslims and Buddhists also filled with the Holy Spirit? You say that we are not saved by the Cross. I think Paul would have disagreed with you. In which case you are saying that Christianity was completely corrupted almost from the beginning.

    I’m afraid that I have no interest in your opinions.

  • Herm

    blockquote> Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness. Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”

    After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly. All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.Acts 4:29-32

    If we all could be filled with the Holy Spirit, boldly speaking the word of God as we received it straight from the Teacher, the Instructor and the Father, why do so many depend on scripture interpretation to believe they hear God?

    David, it is not what I am saying that matters much at all. What matters is, if all the scripture quoting, as witnessed 1st or second hand, of what the Messiah said, taken literally, without interpretation, says Christianity was corrupted from Jesus’ instructions, from the beginning, then Paul was certainly not perfect in teaching “all” that it takes to be saved. What young child of any carnal family teaches their parents’ will without error?

    So many choose to follow their little siblings in God (like Peter, Paul, James, their theologian, the pastor, their parents, …) rather than the voice of their Father available to each directly as each is receptive. Paul taught more his training in Roman and Pharisaical Jewish institutional organization than he taught the Advocate (the one Teacher in Matthew 23:8) as made available to all who could see him to accept him with and in them forever. Paul taught a dependence upon carnal church institution for salvation than solely on the Spirit of truth setting each free from such competitive carnal influences. If we were saved from our own, Adam and Eve’s, and/or our father’s (up to ten years), trespasses by any ritual on earth, including Jesus crucifixion on the cross (for not denying his kinship in God), why is it that to be a student of Christ he teaches that we each must pick up our own cross?

    To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

    John 8:31-32

    Why is it that so few take the following scripture literally, instead subscribing to the opinions of their respective physical churches?

    “If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

    John 14:15-21

    “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”

    John 16:12-15

    Spirit life (life = awareness + influence) has no words because each communicating with another in spirit has no carnal eyes to read with, limbs to write with, ears to hear with or mouths to speak with. As the Jewish expert in the law highlighted in Luke 10:27, the four elements each individual life is responsible to, in relationship with another, is all their heart, all their soul, all their strength, all their mind.

    “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

    John 4:21-24

    Don’t, please don’t, believe me or any of mankind for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. If you want to be saved from intimidation, interpretation and falsehoods relative to God then go to God directly as scripture says you can. Don’t go to them with all words but do so, exerting as much of their image through your heart, soul, strength, heart as you can muster, in their image gifted all mankind, the image in the Spirit.

    Do you have any interest in Jesus’ opinions? They are available to you directly from his Father in him … and he in you … and you in him.

  • God is love and those who live in love live in God and God in them.

  • Herm

    All of God are spirit, filled by the Spirit of truth (once appearing as like a dove) living with and in each forever, binding each to each other as one with all love (empathy, compassion, forgiveness and more for the other as they would have for themselves). When a child of God it doesn’t matter, ever again, what the name of the tribe you were born into as a child of Man. In Jesus example, the only tribe on earth he loved to claim was being a Son of Man (not Jewish, of the family of Mary and Joseph, or resident of Capernaum).

    All who live in love of Man, God, and their neighbor, carnal or spirit, as themselves live in God, by any name, and God in them.

    Thank you Keith, I hope your journey is going well.

  • David M

    Does it make no difference whether you are a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew? I must assume that you believe there is no difference unless you specifically disavow this. Personally, I have no further comment to make on the subject. But readers of this blog should be aware of this.

  • Herm

    Readers of this blog are aware without your implied threat. Love is a membership that trumps any religious membership, by any name. God doesn’t care as long as you love your meciful neighbor as yourself, and like that, you love the Lord your God with all your spirit self, more than you love (even to the point of hate) carnal birth, church, race, and/or nation family … you will live.

    There is no written/vocal contract of allegiance to any church, or ritual, or obedience to any church’s theology/doctrine/dogma, or any administered sacrament that guarantees that the Spirit of truth will live with and in any of mankind forever. Only doing in love to others, first, as one of mankind would have others do in love to her/him will guarantee (s)he will live.

    Think about it. Those who live eternally must love enough to pick up their own cross for others or eternity would be a living hell for all. Does sprinkling or immersing guarantee the baptized will surely do to all others first as they would have all others do to them? … does love for all?

    You are loved David, truly. The Holy Spirit belongs to no religion, only to the whole of God. Jesus said and lived on earth accordingly. Jesus says so today.

  • Josie Patterson

    Are you the man who wrote about the mark of the beast? I was interested in the article and was wondering if you could write another one?

  • What should I write about?

  • Josie Patterson

    I have voices from a chip i had implanted and was wondering if i could find an author to write more on the subject. I’ve found alot of articles that lead up to talking about my voices in particular they keep saying walmart is related to someone having voices. Mine are pretty harsh.