Return Of The Love Buts (A New Hope)

Return Of The Love Buts (A New Hope) February 26, 2020

Some of you may have been following the saga of the “Love Buts” that started last week here on the blog, and then followed up with a rebuttal. Today I have great news to share.

The Story So Far….

After publishing a post here – Attack of the Love Buts – about how many Christians often want to balance my comments like “God IS Love” and “Those who live in love live in God and God in them” with corrections that begin with, “God is Love, BUT…” [hence the title], I received a very long email from someone who wanted to further correct my false teaching and heretical progressive Christianity with even more “Love, BUT” examples for me to consider.

The email not only assured me that I was deliberately misleading people with my “God IS Love” heresy, but also questioned my integrity by suggesting I would never share his rebuke on my blog so people could decide for themselves. So I did.   [See The Love Buts Strike Back]

Of course, he responded once more. This time he doubled-down on the “false teacher” nonsense and got deeper into the God of Wrath who must burn sinners in hell forever. [You know the drill].

So, honestly, I just didn’t have it in me to continue the conversation any further. Rather than take his objections point-by-point, I decided to send him a YouTube video clip and ask him to let me know what he thought about it.

My hope was that the video would help him take a step back and reconsider his position without having to engage in an endless back-and-forth email debate that frankly could steal hours or days of my time.

Here’s the reply I sent him:

Have you seen this? Curious what you’d think about it:

 The next morning I received this reply from my friend:
Dear Keith,

Thank you for sharing this link, I will respond in due course after contemplating it for a while. 
The Lord has begun to reveal something quite startling to me about love and hate. 
I will spend time in prayer and submission, waiting for further clarity but suffice to say, my brother, you will be one of the first with whom I will discuss these things for as iron sharpens iron we all learn often through a level of friction. 
May the Lord guide you and bless you as you seek to be filled and moved by the love of God. 
Yours faithfully
So….wow. That was a complete change of heart and tone. Who knows? Maybe there really IS a new hope for my “Love But” friend?
One can only hope.

What made the difference? Perhaps my friend Brad Jersak is just better at explaining the love of God than I am. That’s probably it. Or, maybe it took another perspective, a story, a video, or just something other than my blog and this email thread to shake him out of it.

Who knows? I’m just really blessed that at least something seems to have switched on the light bulb in my friend’s head concerning the love of God.
As long as people wake up to the Jesus-like God of the New Testament and start to believe that God really IS love, that’s fine with me….no matter how they “get it” I just want them to get it.
Otherwise, we continue to wrestle within ourselves with a schizophrenic God who is love, but who is also wrath; who wants no one to perish, but chooses some to burn forever; who says His love endures forever and His wrath is for a moment, but who turns into a God whose love endures a moment while His wrath burns forever.
If we could really just allow ourselves to believe – down to our bones – in a God who loves us, really, really LOVES us, because this is who God is, then maybe we can start to get on with this ministry of reconciliation we’ve been given; and let everyone know that God was in Christ NOT counting our sins against us, but reconciling the WORLD to Himself.
I’m ready whenever you are.

Keith Giles was formerly a licensed and ordained minister who walked away from organized church 11 years ago, to start a home fellowship that gave away 100% of the offering to the poor in the community. Today, He and his wife have returned to El Paso, TX after 25 years, as part of their next adventure. They hope to start a new house church very soon.

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  • Amen! Sometimes, all we need to do is a plant a seed; even when we believe the soil is rotten, it isn’t always!

  • Herm

    then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free

    From 17 to 50 I turned my chair to invite the Spirit of truth to guide me, and every time he did; like from the pulpit, before board meetings, before entering Folsom prison for ministry, … . Every time without exception.

    When in doubt about my next action, sin or not (?), I would turn my chair to hide my eyes (my awareness of God) from God’s witness, and turn back when not in doubt.

    After I was 50, my chair collapsed (lost everything of value to me). From prostration I was baptized, immersed to be with and in the Living Water forever unable to turn away, and have since, without exception, the chair of God is one with the chair that is me, bound forever heart, soul, strength, mind in all love.

    Don’t believe me, ask God who does not begrudge children for seeking the truth in knowledge of good and evil. Knowledge is not sin, trespassing against fact knowledge, truth, is sin. Evil is destructive of life, spirit and physical. Good is constructive of all life. The gifted Advocate is the only source, who knows good and evil from God’s perspective, from whom we can trust to be led into being constructive for all forever. From my last 26 years I can testify, no matter what happens on earth, that as a child, my influence has been far more constructive than when I was a Christian adult authority.

    God loves everyone of mankind for certain. Everyone who loves their neighbor as they love themselves, who, in everything, does to all others first, as they would have any other do to them, will live in that Spirit forever.

  • Iain Lovejoy

    Good to hear what sounds like cheerful news. I hope your correspondent is really becoming open to a change in heart.

  • Ellen Hammond

    Thanks for sharing this, Keith. It gives me hope for so many hearts that seem firmly stuck in the “But” camp.

  • Bob Peacock

    Loved every second of Brad’s message “The Gospel Chairs”. My husband Lloyd and I sat and listened intently., laughed, cried and prayed and was rejoicing in the message. Thank you Keith for sharing this message., as well as your Blogs on God IS Love. He certainly is to us. And we loved when Brad said. ” Why are people forgetting, Jesus is God…Love, Love, what it is all about.. the message below by Hem is spot on..Thank you too Hem for sharing. Blessings to each of you.
    Bob and Lloyd.