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Two-Time Survivor Champ Sandra Diaz-Twine Beyond the Torch EPISODE 7

Get ready for a wild ride on "Beyond the Torch" as Leslie and Todd welcome the legendary Sandra Diaz-Twine, two-time winner of the Survivor and truly a Queen both on the show and off! This episode is packed with laughter, heartfelt stories, and behind-the-scenes secrets. From Sandras humble beginnings and her journey to Survivor stardom, to hilarious tales of corn mazes shaped like her face and bargain-hunting adventures, youll see why Sandra is beloved by fans and castaways alike. The conversation dives deep into friendship, family, and the life-changing power of reality TV, all sprinkled with Sandras signature humor and warmth. Bullet Points of Interest: Sandra reveals how she went from military life to Survivor legendwinning twice! Heartfelt fan stories about how Survivor helped them through tough times. Hilarious recounting of a corn maze in Missouri shaped like Sandras face (and getting lost in it!). Sandras tips for bargain shoppingeven after winning $2 million! Behind-the-scenes casting secrets and what its really like to be labeled a villain. The importance of Survivors fan community and how its changed the castaways lives. Fun facts: Sandras love for animals, puzzles, and her animal sanctuary at home. Honest talk about reality TV fame, family, and why Sandra is still so down-to-earth. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Episode 1
Beyond the Torch Announcement! Coming August 26, 2025!
Announcement of Beyond the Torch--a new podcast that features interviews from former Survivors and asks the questions: Where are you now? How did the show change you? Do you have regrets? Did the show change the trajectory of your life? And more! Hosted by Survivor China Castaways Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease, Beyond the Torch will not only feature a new castaway with every episode, but also a segment called "The Fans Have Spoken" where they will share a story of how Survivor has touched or changed the lives of the fans of the show, too! Subscribe now and don't miss an episode when it starts August 26, 2025! And if you have a story about how Survivor changed YOUR life, leave us a voicemail! Here is the LINK. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 2
Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease: Beyond the Torch
In the premier episode of "Beyond the Torch with Todd and Leslie," Todd Herzog and Leslie Nease introduce their new podcast, welcoming Survivor fans and sharing their excitement about upcoming episodes featuring stories of Survivor contestants and fans. They discuss how the show has impacted their lives and recount the beginning of their friendship and experiences from their time on Survivor: China, including the struggles and triumphs they faced. The episode features a fan call from Matt, a longtime Survivor enthusiast, whose personal story illustrates how the show inspired him to apply for the competition. Todd and Leslie also reflect on their personal journeys, elaborating on Todd's struggle with alcoholism, his journey to sobriety, and Leslie's deconstruction of her religious beliefs. They emphasize the transformative power of their Survivor experiences and extend an invitation to fans to share their own stories on the podcast. Watch Leslie's Audition Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdNVBo4HSho Order a POP from Todd's Pop Shop! Pick up Leslie's book , Honoring the Journey: The Deconstruction of Sister Christian on Amazon or Audible! Find out more about Leslie's Life & Faith Coaching here! Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 3
Survivor China's Peih Gee Law Beyond the Torch
We open our castaway interviews on Beyond the Torch with Survivor China legend Peih Gee.! The conversation dives deep into Peih Gees journey on Survivor: China, exploring the physical and emotional challenges she faced, the strategies and alliances that shaped her game, and the personal growth she experienced both during and after the show. We had the most fun reminiscing about the grueling conditions, memorable cast dynamics, and behind-the-scenes stories, while also reflecting on the impact Survivor had on all of our lives. Peih Gee shares how the experience helped her find confidence, community, and a new sense of purpose, leading to her creative ventures in jewelry design, podcasting, and building connections through games. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 4
Lynne Spillman, Former Survivor Casting Director
Today on Beyond the Torch, Leslie and Todd sit down with Lynne Spillman, the legendary former head of casting for Survivor and other reality shows. Lynne shares her unconventional journey from a career in sales to becoming a pivotal figure in reality TV, recounting behind-the-scenes stories about casting, the evolution of Survivor, and the impact of authentic storytelling. The conversation delves into the casting process, memorable contestants, the importance of being genuine, and the unique bonds formed through the Survivor experience. Lynne also reflects on her current projects, her entrepreneurial venture with Mahjong, and offers candid advice for aspiring reality TV participants. Bullet Points of Interest: Lynne Spillman discusses her unexpected path from sales and fashion in New York to casting in reality television. She shares how she was drawn to casting by her love of real peoples stories and her knack for connecting with interviewees. Lynne reveals the early days of Survivor casting, including the challenges of reviewing VHS tapes and the dramatic increase in applicants after the show's initial success. She explains her personal approach to casting: reading applications first, looking for authenticity, humor, and strong opinions, and valuing consistency between written and video submissions. The episode features stories about memorable casting moments, including the recruitment of standout contestants like Courtney and the importance of bloopers in revealing true personalities. Lynne describes the process of assembling Survivor tribes, emphasizing the balance of age, strength, and personality, and the collaborative effort with producers and network executives. The conversation touches on the psychological impact of Survivor, the growth contestants experience, and the deep community bonds formed among participants. Lynne offers advice for aspiring reality TV contestants: be yourself, trust your story, and understand the risks of public exposure. She shares funny and insightful anecdotes from casting, including pranks and paranoia among contestants during the selection process. Lynne talks about her current work in casting, her preference for short-term projects, and her business selling Mahjong travel sets. You can find out more on her website: https://mahjtogo.com The episode closes with gratitude from the hosts for Lynnes role in changing their lives and a celebration of the enduring Survivor family. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 5
Survivor Tocantins Debbie (Beebe) Flowers Beyond the Torch
In this episode of "Beyond the Torch," hosts Todd Herzog and Leslie Nease welcome Debbie Flowers (known as Debbie Beebe when she was a castaway), from Survivor Tocantins, for an open and emotional conversation. Debbie shares how Survivor profoundly changed her life, helping her find the strength to leave an abusive relationship and discover her self-worth. The discussion covers behind-the-scenes stories, the impact of vulnerability on the show, the enduring bonds between cast members, and the powerful ways Survivor connects and transforms both players and fans. Points of Interest: Debbies candid account of how Survivor empowered her to escape an abusive marriage. Insightful reflections on vulnerability, self-discovery, and the caretaker role on Survivor. Behind-the-scenes casting stories and memorable moments with fellow castaways like Tyson and Coach. The emotional support and lifelong friendships formed through the Survivor experience. A listener story about how Survivor has impacted their own life and the importance of community. Fun anecdotes about Survivor memorabilia, casting quirks, and life after the show. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 6
Survivor One World & Game Changers Troyzan Beyond the Torch
Let's go Beyond the Torch with the memorable and iconic Castaway, Troyzan! Troyzan shares his long and determined journey to finally being cast on Survivor, including years of audition tapes and near-misses. The discussion covers his experiences on the show, the evolution of Survivor over the years, the impact of editing, and the sense of family within the Survivor community. The episode also delves into Troyzans personal life, his "new relationship" with another iconic castaway, and the lessons hes learned about perseverance, authenticity, and embracing change both on and off the island. Bullet Points of Interest: Troyzans 11-year journey and relentless persistence to get cast on Survivor. Behind-the-scenes stories of Survivor casting, including memorable auditions and interactions with CBS executives. Reflections on the evolution of Survivor: from 39-day seasons to the new 26-day format, and the impact of social media and editing. The importance of authenticity and being oneself, both in the game and in life. The sense of family and camaraderie among Survivor contestants and fans. Candid discussion about the challenges and emotional rollercoaster of playing Survivor multiple times. Troyzans thoughts on the changing tone of the show, from cutthroat competition to a more kumbaya atmosphere. Insights into Survivors storytelling, editing, and the sometimes frustrating lack of recognition for players strategic moves. Updates about his rumored relationship with another iconic castaway. Encouragement for listeners to never give up on their dreams, and to embrace new experiences and connections. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 8
Survivor China's Frosti Zernow Beyond the Torch
In this episode of "Beyond the Torch," hosts Leslie Nease and Todd Herzog reunite with their fellow Survivor: China castmate, Frosti Zernow, for a heartfelt and lively conversation. The trio reminisces about their time on Survivor, the impact of the show on their lives, and share behind-the-scenes stories, including Frosti's unique journey from parkour athlete to reality TV contestant. The episode also features a touching fan voicemail, reflections on personal growth, and updates on Frosti's adventurous post-Survivor life, including his career, family, and travels. Bullet Points of Interest: Frosti shares how he was cast on Survivor: China as the youngest contestant at the time, and his background in parkour, including performing on a Madonna tour. Todd, Leslie & Frosti discuss the deep bonds and "family" feeling formed during Survivor, and how the experience changed their perspectives on life. A fan voicemail highlights the positive influence of Survivor cast members, particularly Courtney, on viewers' self-image and confidence. Frosti recounts behind-the-scenes stories, such as carrying Leslies suitcase up a thousand stairs and his failed attempt at hunting on the island. The group reflects on the challenges of Survivor, including hunger, boredom, and the emotional toll of voting out close friends. Frosti talks about his post-Survivor adventures: acting in commercials and movies, competing on Ninja Warrior, and working on Emmy-nominated projects. Updates on Frostis current life: living abroad as a digital nomad, raising a family, and continuing to seek new challenges and creative opportunities. The episode ends with a call to action for fans to petition for Frostis return to Survivor, and warm expressions of friendship and gratitude among the castmates. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 9
Survivor China & Heroes vs. Villains Courtney Yates Beyond the Torch
Todd and Leslie are absolutely thrilled to welcome their tribe-mate and friend, Courtney Yates to the podcast today! This one is PACKED with tons of Survivor Tea, behind the scenes stories and a lot of fun updates on Courtney's life today! If you were a fan of her on Survivor China or Heroes Vs. Villains, you'll love her even more after you hear this podcast! Bullet Points of Interest: Courtney Yates recounts being scouted for Survivor at her restaurant job and initially refusing the offer. Behind-the-scenes casting stories, including the role of casting director Lynn Spillman. Reflections on Survivor: China, including alliances, first impressions, and memorable challenges. Emotional moments about friendship, loyalty, and the hardships faced during the game. Discussion of the "villain" label and how gender influenced perceptions on the show. Courtneys transition from reluctant contestant to finalist and her evolving relationship with the game. Insights into life after Survivor, including the lasting impact of public recognition and digital legacy. Courtneys current work as an astrology teacher and her offer to connect with fans through her school. The importance of fan engagement and the Survivor communitys ongoing influence. Teasers for future episodes and special astrology readings for Survivor alumni. Find out more about Courtney's Astrology School at www.astrocollege.com ! Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 10
Survivor Africa, All-Stars & Winners at War's Ethan Zohn Beyond the Torch
Today, Todd and Leslie go Beyond the Torch with Survivor Africa Winner, All-Star and Winners at War player, Ethan Zohn! Prepare to laugh a lot, cry a little and find out all sorts of behind the scenes fun facts with Ethan today! He is so transparent and open about his life journey, which includes some pretty harrowing battles with cancer. He's a Survivor in more ways than one, friends! Don't miss our conversation with Ethan, and if you love it, share it with a friend who also loves Survivor! Ethan Zohn reflects on his time as a Survivor winner and the impact of Survivor Africa, which aired during 9/11 and spanned two years due to the delayed premiere. Leslie, Todd & Ethan share their personal connections to Survivor, including starting a Survivor club in high school and meeting Survivor legends. Discussion of how the fan base and casting have evolved, becoming more diverse and inclusive over the years. Ethan describes the differences between playing in the early seasons and returning for Season 40, highlighting the faster pace, new game mechanics, and the impact of social media. Ethan shares his audition story, from being unemployed and making a video with a friend, to the multi-stage interview process. Insights into Ethans gameplay: he focused on building loyal, personal relationships and a strong social game, which he credits for his win. Reflections on how Survivor changed Todd, Leslie and Ethan personally, teaching self-awareness, empathy, and the value of stepping outside comfort zones. Ethan opens up about his cancer diagnosis, the challenges of being a public figure during treatment, and how the Survivor community supported him. The story of how Survivor Stand Up to Cancer was created, and how funds raised helped develop the drug that saved Ethans life. Ethan discusses preparing for his return in Season 40, setting both game and life goals, and the realization that his story would impact his chances in the game. The founding and growth of Grassroot Soccer, a charity Ethan started with his Survivor winnings, now operating in 65 countries and helping millions of kids. Ethans invention of the Crunch Bowl, a cereal bowl designed to keep cereal crunchy, and the journey from idea to product launch. The rise of in-person Survivor games and events, and the sense of community among former contestants and fans. Reflections on the evolution of Survivor, the appeal of international versions like Australian Survivor, and the enduring impact of the show on participants lives. The episode closes with gratitude for the Survivor community, encouragement to support Ethans causes, and an invitation for fans to connect. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 11
Millennials vs. GenX's Jay Starrett Beyond the Torch
In this episode, Todd & Leslie welcome Jay Starrett, known for his appearance on Survivor: Millennials vs. Gen X and MTVs The Challenge. The conversation dives into Jays Survivor journey, his casting experience, memorable moments from the show, and the strong bonds formed with his castmates. Jay shares behind-the-scenes stories, reflects on how reality TV changed his outlook on life, and discusses his entrepreneurial ventures and personal growth. The episode is filled with humor, heartfelt moments, and candid insights into the realities of competing on Survivor and The Challenge. Points of Interest: Jays casting story, including being an alternate for Survivor: Kah Rng and his determination to get on the show. Reflections on the unique camaraderie of the Millennials vs. Gen X cast and how it differs from The Challenge. Jays favorite Survivor moments and winners, plus fan questions about iconic show moments. Behind-the-scenes stories, like the infamous idol chase and David Wrights fake idol. Jays personal growth, including sobriety, gratitude, and how Survivor changed his perspective on life and health. Insights into Jays daily life, his clothing brand "Stay Loco," and his approach to motivation and authenticity. Fun anecdotes about eating challenges, grossest foods, and the realities of survival. Jays thoughts on returning to Survivor, The Challenge, and his dream of competing on shows like Dancing with the Stars or Alone. Heartfelt advice for listeners about pursuing dreams and staying true to oneself. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 12
Survivor Fiji & Fans Vs. Favorites: Yau Man Chan Beyond the Torch
This week on Beyond the Torch, we welcome Survivor legend Yau-Man Chan for a wide-ranging and insightful conversation. Yau-Man shares stories from his time on Survivor Fiji and Micronesia, revealing his analytical approach to the game, the cultural impact of Survivor, and his personal journey from Borneo to the United States. The discussion covers his unique strategies in challenges, the origins of the fake idol, reflections on social dynamics, and the life lessons hes drawn from both Survivor and his scientific career. The episode is filled with humor, nostalgia, and heartfelt moments, as Yau-Man, Todd & Leslie connect over their shared experiences and the enduring legacy of Survivor. Bullet Points of Interest: Yau-Man discusses his upbringing in Borneo and how it influenced his Survivor experience. He reveals he never watched Survivor before being cast, except for the first season filmed in his hometown. Insight into the casting process and the original plan for Survivor Fiji to be divided by race. Yau-Mans analytical, non-confrontational strategy and how it helped him avoid early elimination. Behind-the-scenes stories about challenge strategies, including the physics behind his javelin and maze wins. The creation of the first-ever fake immunity idol and its legacy in Survivor history. Reflections on returning for a second season and the challenges of being a known player. Thoughts on the importance of social connections versus analytical thinking in Survivor. Personal anecdotes about family, career, and adapting to life in America. Advice for future Survivor contestants: "Learn to swim!" Yau-Mans current goals, including traveling to China and holding a panda bear. Heartfelt gratitude for Survivor fans and the lasting impact of the show on his life. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 13
Survivor Gabon's Gillian Larson Beyond the Torch
Imagine finally being selected as a Castaway on Survivor after 18 auditions and realizing your experience was nothing like you'd hoped it would be. Gillian Larsen was 61 years old when she was cast on the show and she had a rough time fitting in on her season of Survivor Gabon, but she didn't let that stop her from using the experience to create a fundraising event (Reality Rally) that raised tons of money for Michele's Place, a cancer resource center. Gillian has had such a beautiful and exciting life (and she shares it in great detail - you'll love it!) and she has learned to take the tough experiences in life and make good from them. We know you'll be inspired today as you hear her journey to, through and beyond the torch! To see the YouTube video about Jeff wanting to quit, check out this link ! Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 14
Survivor Nicaragua's Dr. Jill Behm: Beyond the Torch
This episode features a lively and heartfelt conversation with Dr. Jill Behm from Survivor: Nicaragua, delving into her unique journey to the show, her experiences as an introvert in a high-stakes social game, and the enduring friendships formed through Survivor. The hosts and Jill reminisce about the early days of Survivor fandom, the evolution of casting, and the challenges of playing in tough locations like Nicaragua. The episode also explores the impact of Survivor on personal growth, the importance of community among contestants, and the quirks of Survivor memorabilia. Listeners are treated to behind-the-scenes stories, reflections on game strategy, and the camaraderie that defines the Survivor family. Bullet Points of Interest: Jills unconventional path to being cast on Survivor and the role of distinctive hair color. The early Survivor fan community: message boards like Survivor Sucks and Pygmy Island. Insights into the casting process and the menu approach to building a seasons cast. The physical and social challenges of playing Survivor in Nicaragua. The importance of alliances and instant connections, especially with fellow contestants like Marty. Survivor memorabilia: Jills Survivor room and stories behind unique keepsakes. Reflections on how Survivor changes (or doesnt change) contestants lives. The evolution of game strategy, including the impact of hidden immunity idols. The supportive Survivor mom squad and the value of contestant community. Listener engagement: The Fans Have Spoken segment and encouragement for fan participation. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 15
Survivor Fiji's Anthony Robinson Beyond the Torch
In this final episode of 2025 of "Beyond the Torch," we welcome Anthony Robinson, a memorable castaway from Survivor: Fiji, for a deep dive into his experiences both on and off the show. The conversation weaves through Anthonys journey as a self-described "blurred" (Black nerd), his unique path to being cast, the challenges of representation and stereotypes on reality TV, and the emotional impact of Survivor on his life. The episode also touches on the power of fandom, the realities of online interactions, and Anthonys post-Survivor adventures in immersive theater and gaming. Listeners are treated to candid reflections, humorous anecdotes, and thoughtful discussions about identity, vulnerability, and personal growth. This is our final episode for this year, but we will be back in January with some brand new episodes Beyond the Torch! Points of Interest: Anthonys reflections on being one of the first openly nerdy Black contestants and the pressures of representation. Behind-the-scenes stories about Survivor: Fiji casting, including the unexpected way Anthony was recruited. Honest discussion about the emotional toll of reality TV, online trolling, and the importance of self-acceptance. Anthonys friendship with fellow castaway Rocky, including a touching story of reconciliation after the show. Insights into the mask we wear in different parts of life, and how Survivor magnifies personal growth. The impact of Survivor fandom, especially during the pandemic, and the unique ways fans interact with former contestants. Anthonys current involvement in immersive theater and gaming communities, and his ongoing journey of self-discovery. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 16
Tina Wesson, Survivor Winner Beyond the Torch
Were back!!! Welcome to Beyond the Torch 2026! Were kicking things off in the best way possible. Guest host Courtney Yates joins Leslie for a real, raw, and honestly iconic conversation with Tina Wesson, Survivor winner & returnee! From being cast as an alternate (wild) to becoming a Survivor legend, to returning with her daughter on Survivor: Blood vs. Water, Tina opens up about it all. The wins, the losses, the growthand yes, she spills some tea. They dive into how Survivor has changed over the years, what its really like playing as a normal person (aka not a superfan strategist), and how the show shaped Tinas life and family in ways she never expected. Big themes: authenticity, evolving game dynamics, and the kind of lifelong bonds only Survivor can create. Its heartfelt, fun, and full of moments youll be thinking about long after the episode ends. Trust usyoure gonna want to listen Bullet Points of Interest: Tina reveals she was initially an alternate and almost didnt make the cast. Insights into the casting process and the types of questions asked. Tinas perspective on being a relatable, ordinary winner and the shows early focus on regular people. Reflections on the evolution of Survivor, including changes in gameplay, alliances, and production. Stories from playing with her daughter Katie on "Blood vs. Water" and the unique challenges and joys of that experience. Discussion of the physical hardships of early Survivor seasons, including extreme starvation and longer durations. Tinas approach to playing with integrity and letting people be themselves. The emotional and psychological impact of Survivor, including recurring dreams and the trauma bond among castaways. Fun behind-the-scenes stories from post-vote-out trips and Ponderosa. The hosts and Tina share who theyre rooting for in the upcoming Survivor season and reflect on the legacy of the show. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 17
Brian Corridan from Survivor Guatemala Beyond the Torch
Today, Leslie and guest co-host Courtney Yates welcome Brian Corridan, Survivor: Guatemala alum! We reminisce about our Survivor experiences, the evolution of the show, and the enduring community that has formed around it. We also discuss the challenges of casting, the intensity of the game, and the personal growth (or lack thereof) that comes from playing. How many times did Brian audition? What finally got him cast after making finals 3 times? What is he up to now? Find out this and more on this episode of Beyond the Torch! Bullet Points of Interest: Brian Corridan shares his journey to being cast on Survivor, including multiple audition attempts and his unique insult theory that helped him stand out. Leslie, Courtney and Brian reflect on the differences between old-school and new-era Survivor, including casting, challenges, and the changing nature of fame. A fan voicemail from Delilah illustrates the deep impact Survivor has on its audience and the sense of community it fosters. Behind-the-scenes stories about the grueling 11-mile hike in Guatemala, crocodile-infested waters, and the hardships contestants faced. Discussion of the Survivor alumni community, the wine and cheese group, and the lasting friendships formed through the show. Honest talk about the emotional aftermath of being on Survivor, dealing with online criticism, and the importance of self-acceptance. Brian offers advice for listeners feeling stripped down by life, emphasizing the value of community and kindness. The episode closes with gratitude, laughter, and a reminder that Survivor is more than a gameits a lifelong connection for many. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 18
Rob Mariano (Boston Rob) Beyond the Torch
This week Leslie & guest-co-host Courtney sit down with the legendary "Boston"Rob Mariano. They dive into Rob's long and memorable Survivor career, his strategies, memorable moments, and behind-the-scenes insights. They talk about what he would say to himself back on that Marquesas beach so many years ago if he got a chance to "mentor" himself back then, and find out what he really thought about those gigantic statues of him and Sandra, and why he won't ever play Survivor again. If you're a Survivor fan, this is a must-listen episode! Bullet Points of Interest: Boston Rob shares his thoughts on the evolution of Survivor strategy. Behind-the-scenes stories from Rob's multiple seasons. Discussion on the challenges and advantages of returning players. Courtney Yates adds her unique perspective and humor. Insights into the social dynamics and alliances that shaped the game. Reflections on the most memorable moments and twists in Survivor history. Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Episode 19
Survivor Vanuatu's Chad Crittenden Beyond the Torch
Today on Beyond the Torch, Chad Crittenden joins Todd & Leslie and shares his incredible story of being diagnosed with synovial sarcoma, a rare and deadly form of cancer, during his ninth year of teaching. After discovering a tumor on his foot that grew from peanut-sized to golf ball-sized, he faced a life-changing decision: undergo a wide excision that would leave him with a permanent limp, or choose amputation below the knee. He chose amputation and, remarkably, auditioned for Survivor during his recovery after watching Season 8 (All-Stars). His unique perspective and Mark Burnett's vision led to him concealing his prosthetic leg with pants, revealing it strategically on the show to explore how preconceived notions affect people's perceptions. Chad discusses the physical and mental challenges of competing, his alliance dynamics, his friendship with Julie and Chris, and his post-Survivor life doing motivational speaking (including a TED Talk and speaking to the royal family in Abu Dhabi). He's now a PE teacher, continuing to inspire children by demonstrating what people with disabilities can achieve. Watch Chad's TED Talk here! Key Points of Interest: Chad discovered his cancer between Survivor Seasons 8 and 9, had his amputation, and competed on Season 9 all within the same year He concealed his prosthetic leg initially to study how people's treatment of him changed before and after the reveal The opening ceremony in Vanuatu included drinking kava (a traditional ceremonial drink with muscle-relaxing effects) and a dramatic moment when it started pouring rain the instant Brady touched the idol at the top of a greased pole Chad's humor and personality weren't shown much on TV because he was portrayed as the "inspirational guy" He got angry at Julie for voting against their alliance, but it wasn't aired because it didn't fit his character arc He was expected to be cast for Heroes vs. Villains but wasn't selected for undisclosed reasons Chad now teaches PE to elementary students, serving as a living example that disabilities don't limit capability He remains close friends with Julie, Chris, and Ethan Zohn, and does work with Grassroots Soccer Beyond the Torch is hosted by Todd Herzog & Leslie Nease from Survivor China. Produced and edited by Leslie Nease. Artwork by Leslie Nease. To contact them, email [email protected] ! This podcast is a love letter to Survivor and the people who played it but just to be clear, we're not connected to CBS or the official Survivor franchise. Just superfans and former castaways telling our stories beyond the torch. Leave a voicemail for us if you're a Super Fan who wants to share how Survivor changed your life or if you have a question or idea for our show! We love to include the fans!! Special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Quoircast! They make this podcast possible, along with lots of other interesting podcasts they help bring to life! Check out their platform HERE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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