In this Season 4 episode, we talked with Catherine Quiring, who described herself as a reformed people-pleaser, Exvangelical and an aspiring advocate for anti-oppressive spirituality. She is a licensed Mental Health Counsellor, and Self-Trust Coach. Catherine told us why she believes the Evangelical god is a narcissist and that the symptoms experienced by those who have experienced covert narcissistic abuse are extremely similar to those experienced in high-control religious settings. You can connect with Catherine via: Her website: www.cqcounseling.com Instagram: @catherinequiring Facebook: @cqcounseling The book she referenced in this episode was Breaking Their Will: Shedding Light on Religious Child Maltreatment : Heimlich, Janet As part of our 2025 Down Under Summer Series , we're replaying out best episodes. We hope you enjoy them as much as we did.? We'll be back with new episodes in April 2025! --- Want more? Check out our exclusive Patreon episodes here. Join the conversation and connect with other listeners here. All our links are here. Transcript of this episode is here. Doubting your beliefs? Have questions about changing or leaving your faith? You are not alone and Recovering from Religion is here to help.