Post-Hitch Dumbfuckery

Among many others, I read the piece on about Hitch’s death. The comments there and elsewhere have been mainly positive and even reverential, but some crossed over into the nasty.

It’s their right to say such stuff, certainly. But it’s also … revealing, let’s say.

These are verbatim, by the way:

Hopesprings52: “The intellect is a powerful tool but it can only go so far. That’s where faith has to kick in. I believe that those who think their mind has the answers to everything are not only headed for many dead-ends and lots of anxiety, they in a sense turn themselves into God. Hutchens was a professional contrarian – and that too is a type of ideology. Not impressed by him.”

Too bad you couldn’t be bothered to check the spelling of the guy’s name. But thanks for showing how you see “god” in everything. You really reinforce the stereotype of believers.

demNme5: “A sad man, a sad life, and an even sadder belief system!! I don’t know if he could rest in peace unless he pickled himself in enough booze to help that along. Just his backing of the Iraq invasion tells me his moral compass needed some repair. As far as his intellect, I’m not impressed with that UNLESS a person does something GOOD with it!”

Yeah, I wasn’t too thrilled with that Iraq stance either. And I STILL don’t agree with him on it. (But I also know I could be wrong, that he saw the situation with more understanding than I do.)

On the other hand, “sad”?? I’d say he lived his life with rare exuberence. I hope I can achieve a tenth of it.

EDDIELOL45: “There is only one true and living God. Reguardless of what someone else does or how the choose to live, you are a weak minded person to allow what you see in others to deminish your belief in God! There Athiest who are mean and miserable people too! And this man was one of them.

He is athie, she is athier, I am athiest. Mean? Miserable? Ah, I see your problem there. You’re having a problem focusing on the guy because he was bigger than life. Or at least, life as you see it.

EDDIELOL45: “Well now he knows that there is a God!”

Uh … yeah.

gurucarcar: “Ahhh, I find it interesting ABC is allowing atheists to remove believers comments. Such disconnected bullies you are.”

Ha-bloody-ha. Speaking as an atheist, I can tell you that it’s FAR more common that thin-skinned godders will take mortal offense at even mild comments by outspoken atheists, and have them flagged for removal. And ABC typically rolls over like a timid puppy.

azhermit: “Yawn… hutchens, I mean hitchens will be forgotten by the world within 90 days… the creature contributed nothing to humanity except for the babble that is common to all self worshiping nihilists.”

Wait, who are you again? —Actually, I found Hitch’s “babble” to be delightful, funny, and damned enlightening. He increased the level of understanding in the world by witnessing, analyzing, and commenting on subjects with deep insight and rare wit.

I damned sure wish I could have met him.


Is it too early to wonder: Will the concept of the “Four Horsemen of Atheism” now be retired?

Because …

Hey, nobody can be Hitch but Hitch, and he rode a big damned iron-shod fire-snorting stud horse. But if there’s gonna be an empty saddle that needs to be filled, I’d say we boost PZ up there.

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  • Randomfactor

    Nah. Truth needs only three horsemen.

  • Monica

    Much as I admire and respect PZ, I don’t think Hitch can be replaced in the “Four Horsemen” concept. It’s possible the community at large will disagree with me, though.

  • Michael D.

    Now see as much as I love pz’s work theres one huge problem with making him a horseman…..

    Everyone knows he rides a triceratops not a horse. :P

    • Hank Fox

      Okay, The Three Horsemen and the Triceratopsian of Atheism.

      • Johnny Vector

        Write up a treatment and send it to my people!

  • Merkin J. Pus-Tart

    My favorite quote from the masses pertaining the death of Christopher Hitchens:

    . . . he is wailing and gnashing his teeth in Hell now, along with Susan Sontag, Bertrand Russell, and Albert Einstein, because God is much too loving and compassionate to tolerate those who question his existence.

    What does that mean? “God is much too loving and compassionate to tolerate those who question his existence.” I guess God works in mysterious ways. By the way, this comment is from the NY times notice about Hitchen’s death:

    • Hank Fox

      Re: “God is much too loving …”

      That was almost certainly one of us, being ironic about the supposed nature of the believers’ god.

      • BinJabreel

        I desperately want that to be true, yet…

        I’m not that sure.

    • satan augustine

      I’m pretty sure that comment is pure sarcasm. If you read the entire comment and the comment that it was written in response to, this is fairly obvious.

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    Why still the four horseMEN, I think there are any number of women out there who could step up (just saying).

    As for the dummies and their silly comments, they could never even come close to Hitch and his erudition.

    • Mike de Fleuriot

      I have to agree, I am sure Ayaan Hirsi Ali knows how to ride. Well that is my vote for the fourth.

  • Grammar Merchant

    Not just visible atheism, but the world is poorer for the loss of Christopher Hitchens. Somehow, though, I think a new horseman will rise — It’s just too strong an image to lie dormant for long. Perhaps Dan Barker? Or Matt Dillahunty? I doubt anyone will be found who can display Christopher’s flair for rhetoric or his razor-sharp wit, but he left in his wake a legion of smart, brave people who will take up the standard and ride on.

  • Lycanthrope


    …the babble that is common to all self worshiping nihilists.

    Dear FSM, this “self-worship” accusation pisses me off. “Nihilist” also – thanks for telling me what I believe, I wasn’t sure – but “self-worship” especially. I’m truly not a violent person, but if someone said that to my face I’d have to resist a strong urge to punch them.

  • jolo5309

    I damned sure wish I could have met him.

    I wish I could have as well

  • Crommunist

    One of the biblical horsemen was death. Just sayin’, Hitch could be like Obi-Wan, a ghostly presence that is still present despite the lack of corporeal existence. Would be pretty badass.

  • Blue

    Hitchens was an amazing and erudite writer. I thought less of his speaking ability but am of the opinion that had improved post-diagnosis which I (rightly or wrongly) attributed to him drinking less. His position on the Iraq war I think had much to do with his great liking of Tony Blair … we all have our blind spots.

  • mephistopheles

    Hitchens was a complete one-off. Impossible to replace and nonsense to try. It would have been like Queen trying to replace Freddie Mercury– can’t be done.

    Even so, I would nominate Greta Christina. Highly stylized intellectual, with a gift for making complex ideas become deceptively simple and clear. A counterpoint to Hitch’s esoteric erudition, but very accessible to the unwashed masses.

    • WMDKitty

      Er… Queen DID try to replace Freddie. They now have Paul Rodgers in the line-up, and are known as “Queen + Paul Rodgers”.

      Oddly enough, it seems to have worked.

  • McCthulhu awaits the return of the 2000 foot Frank Zappa

    I would love to see the amount of discomfort and anger the fundies and n-phobes would have if YouTube’s Zinnia Jones was ever invited to that table. You can’t replace Hitchens, but you can aim at being purely provocative and someone that always has a withering defense.

  • Quincyme

    As much as I love PZs stance, I think the one to fill his shoes has to be Matt Dillahunty. He is a serious thinker and would own the stage. Greta Christina would be another candidate.

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