Camels With Hammers, Booyah!

Stop reading this.

Go read this:

Is It Just A Mystery Whether God Exists?

Daniel Fincke details an argument between a godder and a skeptic.

Robin: Okay, first of all—I don’t claim to know there is a god, I admit I have faith. I am honest about that, unlike you making knowledge claims where you really only have faith too.

Jaime: Hold it—you cannot have this both ways. You worship this god, you live your life around your beliefs about this god and what you think it wants you to do, and you try to get me to believe in and obey this god. You claim all the time to know this god intimately, to have a personal relationship with it, and to know its will. To claim that you don’t act like a person who thinks they know is disingenuous. You’re not living in a humble middle ground like the kind of agnostic who refrains from believing, consistent with their belief they cannot know enough either way to commit to belief or disbelief. You constantly talk and act just as someone would only if they truly thought that they knew there was a god. I mean, how can you say you have a deep and intimate personal relationship with someone one minute and then turn around and the next minute say you’re not claiming to know that person even exists! What kind of an intimate personal relationship is that?

Dang it, I have to meet this guy someday. I’ve never even met an actual philosopher before, but now I want to be one. I want to be him.

  • Daniel Fincke

    I don’t know what to say, Hank, except thanks for the incredibly kind words and the admiration is very much mutual.

  • mikmik

    The free will debate has drawn me into philosophy as much as debating religion has. Frankly, it’s more fun than I care to admit; it’s becoming my favorite pastime.
    The clinical precision with which Jamie dismantles Robin is as exciting as the ‘in your face’ slam dunk in basketball.

    Plus, learning how to think and deploy logic provides powerful insight into the process of acquiring knowledge.

    Mostly, I just like saying, “Take that, mofo,” in an intellectual manner, hah!!

    And, yes, Camels with Hammers is a great analogy, great name, superb blog – one of the best, IMO. Thank you, Daniel Fincke and Hank Fox.

    Mike Laing

  • Phledge

    But if you became Daniel Fincke, who would be Hank Fox? No, no, no, I like my Hank Fox just the way he is right now, thankyouverymuch. :)

    Although, yes, Camels with Hammers is pretty damn impressive.

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