Um. I Have My First Troll. I Think.

Apparently I have acquired a troll. A nice conservative fellow who describes himself:

A 77 year old Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist, 101st Airborne Vet and a former member of management in some of Top American 500 corporations.

Also ‘formally’ a Fire Walking, Deep Sea – Scuba Diving, Paratrooping, Bungee Jumping, Spelunking, 1 & 3 Meter Spring Board Diving, Partying & Dancing, Rock Climbing, River Rapid Running, Expert Shooting, Life Saving, Body Surfing and Beach VolleyBall Playing Son of a Beach.

Still a Truth Telling, Women Chasing (92 times Catching) Iconoclastic, Philosophizing, Crime Stopping, & a “Barking” Grumpy Old “Son Of A Beach.”

I’m intrigued by the fact ”Neil C. Reinhardt” is here commenting (Short Stack # 15 — Mitt Romney), defending Mitt Romney and lambasting Obama, but I also actually kinda feel for the guy.

Just that tagline alone (above) is decidedly odd, not only in what it says (“Fire Walking”??) but the fact that it exists at all. The rest of what he says, the comment itself … well.

I’m torn between …

1) respecting him enough to take what he says seriously and responding to it with all the humor and vigorous disagreement it deserves, and

2) taking note of the nature of his comments AND his stated age and compassionately (and, unavoidably, insultingly) concluding I’m seeing him … not at his best.

What the hell does one do in such case?

I guess, in my case, these three things:

First, I’m telling you, my readers. It seems to me his comment is fair game, at least this much: He’s making apparently serious statements regarding an issue, politics, which does matter to the American public, and making them here in this sort-of-public place. Considering the content of which, it is also humorous.

Second, I’m asking you not to reply to or engage him in debate. Here, anyway. See #2 above.

Third, a personal note to the commenter himself: Neil, seriously, please consider not doing this.

For more, here’s Neil himself:

Torture in Desperate Circumstances

No Surprise: American Troops Love the New XM25 Grenade Launcher…

And here’s some stuff about Neil:

Nutball Alert: Atheist Neil C. Reinhardt

Getting Skeptical About Woo Juice Part 1

 

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  • https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=720170497 Michael Fisher

    Yes ~ you’ll find out more about him here (see comments for many more links):-

    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/emais-i-get-schooled-about-obamacare/

  • kennypo65

    Congratulations.

  • Ashley Moore

    Judging from his description, he seems to be the Chuck Norris of atheist activism.

  • StevoR

    Er .. Congatulations Hank? (Raised beer salute.)

    What the hell does one do in such case?

    Don’t break him too quickly? Let the Horde sharpen their fangs to a good snine on him for a bit is, I think, the traditional instruction here right?

    Expert Shooting,

    Hmm ..Could be taken two ways that – shooting expertly or shooting at experts?

    Women Chasing (92 times Catching)

    Yeck. Dunno quite what he menas by thatand don’t think I particularly care to. What a way of putting it. “Catching women” how and then doing … what? Wonder if any of them think *they* caught *him* insetad?

    • naturalcynic

      Was it “catch and release” because maybe he was too afraid to, uh, do what any guy who likes fish should do.

  • ‘Tis Himself

    I Have My First Troll

    Our Hank has made the big time!

  • Tim Riches

    That is one badass grenade launcher!

  • F

    Yes, you do. You’ve got a troll. Seen him before, and a fine troll he is.

  • Dorothy

    “Still a Truth Telling, Women Chasing (92 times Catching)…”

    Brag, Brag.

    • arakasi

      Well, you see…
      They kept throwing him back.

  • Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    Catch and Release, so others may continue to enjoy.

    • http://a-million-gods.blogspot.com/ Avicenna

      You are supposed to throw the small ones back!

  • hexidecima

    It seems rather like this person is suffering from some type of mental illness. I do feel sorry for this person, but that’s all he has, my pity.

  • http://marniemaclean.com Marnie

    Hmmm, about 5 or 6 years ago, my now-husband and I both had accounts on the social networking platform, tribe. We both participated in its atheist forum. There was an older gentleman, who could never manage to upload an avatar photo, who went by, “Neil” and plugged noni juice all the time. He was known for angrily flying off the handle, making outrages claims and, well, pimping his MLM business.

    Perhaps, it’s a coincidence, but I’m thinking maybe not.

    • http://promethics.wordpres.com Dalillama

      Yup, it’s the same guy. He haunted the areas I was in too.

  • grumpyoldfart

    I wish I had a troll at my blog. Seventy six entries in the last six months and so far the only visitors have been Google and Yahoo web crawlers. Not one comment.

    • JustKat

      If you linked to your blog in your comments perhaps you’d get more visitors. ;-)

      • grumpyoldfart

        I’m too shy to do something like that :)

        • http://niftyatheist.blogspot.com/ niftyatheist, perpetually threadrupt

          Do it, grumpy! :D I clicked on your nym and …..nothing! Can you make your nym a quicklink to your blog? Enquiring minds want to read (perchance to comment! ;-) )

    • smhll

      Grumpy – I’m having a slow day. I would have clicked.

  • http://raisinghellions.wordpress.com/ Lou Doench

    You always remember your first troll.

  • lorn

    Done a lot of stuff. Congratulations everyone has done a lot of stuff. Comes with age. And why exactly does he claim “catching” 92 women? Why exactly 92? Why not ‘almost 100′, or ‘over fifty’, or, like most men, something along the lines of, ‘more than most’. Sounds like he is keeping score and is very caught up in his score keeping and comparing himself with other men. Does he want to break out a ruler and measure penis size?

    Sounds like he has a a Napoleon complex he is servicing, or inner wimp he is trying to deny, by maintaining a list a manly acts. Hint: it will never be enough.

    Which implies he is not very comfortable in his own skin and hasn’t caught onto the fact that being a man isn’t a checklist or series of act you complete to get your ticket punched. It is a way of being. Independent of what you do.

    I’m a man, and I wear a pink tutu and play with dolls like a man. Did that while babysitting a neighbor’s girl. We had a nice tea party and practiced being a ballerina. She knew all the step from her school. In work boots and jeans I was slightly less graceful and didn’t even know the basic positions, but game enough. I vaguely remember position one from her lessons.

    And damn near half the guys in basic shot “Expert”. Why is he telling me this? Why do I need to know? Does he think I’m going to be impressed? Are his arguments so feeble that he needs to polish his credentials so his authority as a man will carry the day when his arguments won’t? That’s the sort of debate trick someone feeling over-matched and insecure might try. It also gives him a route of retreat. If the argument fails he can fall back to how he is a man among men and the people who kicked his ass in debate are less manly. As if that counts for something.

  • otrame

    Does he think I’m going to be impressed? Are his arguments so feeble that he needs to polish his credentials so his authority as a man will carry the day when his arguments won’t? That’s the sort of debate trick someone feeling over-matched and insecure might try.

    Emphasis points to what I think is going on with him.

    He sounds quite sad to me. Anyone who feels the need to count how many women he’s bedded, is remarkably pathetic (once he’s out of his mid-twenties anyway) but to actually brag about it in public at the age of 77 is just sad.

    I’ve done a fair sampling of the list above (except the woman “catching”–I’m straight), and I am a 62 year old fat woman. Nothing on that list makes me likely to pay any more attention to what he has to say than anyone else because I like a good argument, not a list of (mostly) irrelevant supposed accomplishments.

    Like I said. Sad.

  • ‘Tis Himself

    Notice he didn’t say anything about his modesty.

  • http://krissthesexyatheist.blogspot.com krissthesexyatheist

    I very rarely even get comments on a day to day basis (thanks y’all), much less a bon -oh-fide troll. Con grats. That’s big time atheist blogger shit, yo…

    Kriss

  • Navigator

    I don’t understand his comment
    “Sadly, I find MOST Atheists ONLY use rational thought, critical thinking skills and little things called “Facts” on the existence of one, or moregods”
    Um, yes, I DO believe that rationality and those pesky little facts are helpful in getting through life.
    But moregods sounds fascinating. Is it like the Spaghetti Monster, that has moreappendages?

    • ‘Tis Himself

      I see moregods as being objects of worship by the prosperity theists. “Believe in our gods and you get more.”

  • rapiddominance

    This guy sucks as a troll–first, and foremost, because he’s obviously a troll.

    And he’s obviously not one of us, either.
    :)

    Stay on his ass, Hank! Dig your spurs in and show him whose gelding he is.

  • http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers Daniel Fincke

    Neil C. Reinhardt hounded me for a couple years before I just banned him a couple weeks ago. He was the first I ever banned for sustained trolling behavior.

  • Cor (formerly evil)

    You should have said something Hank; I would have been willing to troll you, seeing as how you’re just like Hitler. ;-)

  • http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/ Neil C. Reinhardt

    YOU POOR RETARD,

    PROVING YOU DO NOT ONLY KNOW WHAT A TROLL IS , IT SEEMS YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO EVEN BOTHER TO LOOK THE WORD UP,

    NEXT, NOT YOU, OR ANY OF YOUR FELLOW RETARDS CAN PROVE I HAVE EVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING AT ANYTIME NOR CAN YOU PROVE I AM LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY WRONG ON SUBJECT I COMMENT ON,

    LAST, IF YOU COMPARE ALL THE GOOD I’VE DONE FOR MY COUNTRY, AND FOR OTHERS, I VERY STRONGLY DOUBT YOU, OR ANY OF THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO PUT ME DOWN WOULD MAKE A PIMPLE ON MY ASS!

    IN FACT, THE ODDS ARE LOW ALL OF YOU COMBINED HAVE NOT SERVED YOUR COUNTRY AS LONG, GIVEN AS MUCH BLOOD, STOPPED AS MANY CRIMMALS FROM COMPLETING THEIR CRIMES OR HAVE SAVED AS MANY LIVES AS I HAVE.

    THUS, COMPARED TO ME, YOU ARE NOTHING!

    SO GO PLAY IN FREEWAY TRAFFIC WITH THE REST OF YOUR LITTLE RETARED IILK.

  • http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/ Neil C. Reinhardt

    (My broken keyboard does not allow me to spell check. So live with any mispelled words)

    I WAS WRONG!

    And I apologize to you for my making a factual and logical error when I said you were “nothing” as you must be some thing.

    (Exactly what, I am not sure)

    Next, I hate to break your bubble only I am not a traditional “conserative” by any means as:

    A. I support the government paying for birth control and abortions for those who can not afford them as so doing ends up saving Taxpayers many BILLIONS of dollars as well as reducing crime.

    B. I’m not only for the Total Seperation of Church and State, I am for taxing church property

    As well as even hopefully getting rid of any and all religions.

    C. I also support more than a few other positions considered to be “liberal” ones.

    FYI, a Troll is:

    “One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.”

    This was NOT my intent as I cared less IF my post caused any disruption and argument or not. My intent was to disagree with what was being said about Romney as he is a many times better choice than is ODUMA.

    While Oduma, like Hilter is correct on a few things, (Hitler was right on super highways & small cars.) over all, Oduma’s judgement skills, along with his integrity, are in the gutter!

    While Oduma is totally correct on letting gays serve in the military openly, gay marraige and abortions, he is totally wrong on many, many other things.

    Like his spending more money in less than three years than had all Presidents
    from George Washington to the first George Bush has spent COMBINED.

    Like his ANTI business words & actions causing the longest down turn in over 70 years!

    Like his having terrorists who have robbed our banks, bombed private firms, blown up US Government facilites, Police Cars, Police Stations and who have KILLED Americans AS HIS CLOSE FRIENDS!

    As well as his attending a church for year after year where the “Rev” preached HATE of the United States and of Whites..

    Oduma’s own words in his own books, some other things he has said as well as some of the actions he has taken more than PROVE he is a RACIST!

    Oduma is a VERY PROLIFIC LIAR!

    As only Dishonest people who have NO Honor, Morals or Ethics, LIE as Much and as Frequently as Oduma does, he is not fit to be our President.

    Last, NO person who actually has Honor, Morals, Honesty, Ethics and Integrity would ever support anyone who is so totally lacking in all of them as Oduma is.

  • Brian M

    New reader. Love the blog (I love foxes myself. Have you read the National Geographic story on Russian researches who bred Siberian Silver Foxes for domesticity and human companionship? Amazing.

    ALL CAPS! What a manly man! MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN MEN.

    You all are NUSSING, NUSSING I TELL YOU (Done in a Seargent Schultze voice).

    • Hank Fox

      I did see the “domesticated foxes” story. I confess some part of me would like to have one.

  • http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/ Neil C. Reinhardt

    DANIEL FINCKE is a JERK as:

    A, He can not quore ONE of my FEW posts in his blog which would warrent being banned for

    B. If he did not like my including his e-address when sending out information,

    ALL he had to do was ask me to not send anything to him.

    DUH!

  • http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/ Neil C. Reinhardt

    Done a lot of stuff. Congratulations everyone has done a lot of stuff. Comes with age.

    TOTAL BULL SHIT!

    YES, THERE WIILL BE MISPELLING & TYPOS IN THIS. LIVE WITH IT!

    THE ODDS ARE HIGH I KNOW MORE PEOPLE THAN YOU DO AND I ONLY
    KNOW ONE OTHER WHO HAS BEEN BOTH A HARD HAT DEEP SEA DIVER AND A PARATROOPER.

    (MUCH LESS ALL OF THE OTHER PROFESSIONS I HAVE HAD. OR DONE THE MANY OTHER THINGS I’VE DONE)
    FYI CHILD, BY THE TIME I STARTED THE 7TH GRADE, I HAD LIVED AT OVER 14,000 FT FOR FIVE YEARS IN PERU, IN HONDURAN CLOUD FORESTS. AND HAD BEEN IN NINE COUNTRIES IN AS WELL AS LIVING N CRIPPLE CREEK, LAKEWOOD, DENVER, AND GRAND JUNCTION, COLO.

    BEEN OVER THE WORLDS HIGHEST RAILROAD (OVER 15,000) HIT GOLF BALLS ON THE WORLD S HIGHEST GOLF COUSE, SWAN WITH FRESH EATING FISH AND SLEPT WHERE VAMPIRE BATS WERE. WAS DRUG BY
    MULE FOR AROUND A HUNDRED YARDS

    FLOWN IN 2, 3 & 4 ENGINE AIRCRAFT
    IN AN AIR CRAFT WHOSE ENGINE CAUGHT FIRE, TRAVLED BY TRAIN ACROSS THE US, SAILED ON TRAMP STEAMERS AS WELL AS OCEAN LINERS. WAS ON A SHIP THINKING WE WERE GOING TO BE TORPEDOED BY A GERMAN SUB.

    HIT BY A CAR, NEARY DIED FROM LUNG PROBLEMS CAUSED BY LIVING AT SUCH A HIGH ALITUDE,.

    WHAT HAD YOU DONE BY THE TIME YOU STARED 7TH GRADE?

    PICKED YOUR NOSE?

    And why exactly does he claim “catching” 92 women? Why exactly 92?

    BECAUSE YOU CLUELESS IDIOT, THAT IS THE EXACT NUMBER.

    Why not ‘almost 100?, or ‘over fifty’, or,

    BECAUSE “OH SO VERY CLUELESS ONE” I TELL THE TRUTH

    like most men, something along the lines of, ‘more than most’. Sounds like he is keeping score and is very caught up in his score keeping and comparing himself with other men.

    YES AND NO, NEVER KEPT SCORE, JUST HAD A GREAT MEMORY, (AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN OTHERS I WAS TOO DRUNK TO REMEMBER)

    WHEN YOU ARE NOT A GOOD LOOKING MAN AND YOU STILL ENJOY SEX WITH OVER EIGHT TIMES MORE LADIES THAN MOST MEN, YOU DAMN WELL BETCHA I AM COMPARING MYSELF WITH OTHER MEN

    SO WHAT?

    Does he want to break out a ruler and measure penis size?

    NO CHILD, I LEAVE SUCH THINGS TO RETARDS LIKE YOU

    Sounds like he has a a Napoleon complex he is servicing, or inner wimp he is trying to deny, by maintaining a list a manly acts. Hint: it will never be enough.

    WINPS ARE PARATROOPERS, DEEP SEA DIVERS, SPELUNKERS, FIRE WALKERS, SAVE LIVES AND STOP EIGHT CRIMES IN PROGRESS?

    TRY GETTING YOUR HEAD YOU OF YOUR ASS!

    Which implies he is not very comfortable in his own skin

    YOU A DIME STORE PSYCHOLOGIST?

    and hasn’t caught onto the fact that being a man isn’t a checklist or series of act you complete to get your ticket punched.

    YOUR COMMENTS IMPLY YOU ARE A RETARD.

    It is a way of being. Independent of what you do.

    NO SHIT BIRD BRAIN?

    MY, YOU ACTUALLY GOT SOMETHING RIGHT

    And damn near half the guys in basic shot “Expert”.

    REALLY, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

    ODDS ARE YOU DO NOT KNOW IT AT ALL., YOU ARE AT LEAST GUESSING AND MAYBE LYING.

    Why is he telling me this?

    IWHY NOT? IT IS THE TRUTH

    Why do I need to know? Does he think I’m going to be impressed?

    I GIVE A RATS ASS LESS IF I IMPRESS A PUNK LIKE YOU OR NOT

    Are his arguments so feeble that he needs to polish his credentials so his authority as a man will carry the day when his arguments won’t?

    ARE YOU AN IDIOT WHO LIKES TO ATTACK THOSE WHO HAVE NEVER GIVEN YOU A VALID REASON TO ATTACK THEM?

    YES,, YOU ARE!

    That’s the sort of debate trick someone feeling over-matched and insecure might try.

    I DO NOT DO “TRICKS”. UNLIKE YOU, THEY ARE BENEATH ME

    IT WILL BE A SAD DAY WHEN A FOOL LIKE YOU OVER MATCHES ME IN ABOUT ANYTHING.

    WHILE THE ODDS OF YOU MACHING IN READING SKILLS & INTELLIGENCE ARE VERY LOW, THE ODDS OF YOU MATCHING MY TESTED LISENING SKILLS ARE ZERO AS I GOT THE HIGHEST SCORE EVER GOTTEN BY ANYONE WORLD WIDE.

    It also gives him a route of retreat.

    I DO NOT RETREAT!

    If the argument fails

    THEY DO NOT FAIL. IF THEY DID I WOULD NOT HAVE RECECIVED TOTALLY UNSOLICED PRAISE OF MY USE OF LOGIC AND INTELLIGENCE.

    he can fall back to how he is a man among men

    I AM!

    and the people who kicked his ass in debate

    NONE HAVE

    are less manly. NANY ARE

    HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU PUT YOUR PHYICAL WELL BEING AND.OR YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR OTHERS
    AS I HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE 5TH GRADE.

    I’VE DONE IT SO MANY TIMES I HAVE LOST TRACK!

    As if that counts for something.

    IT DAMN WELL DOES!

    AS THOSE WHOSE LIVES I HAVE SAVED AND THOSE WHO I HAVE STOPPED OTHERS FROM HURING
    WOULD GLADLY ATTEST TO.

    LAST CHILD, THE ODDS OR YOU OR ANYONE PROVING I HAVE EVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING ARE ZERO!

    AND THE ODDS OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE PROVING I AM LOGICALLLY OR FACTUALLY WRONG ON ANYHTING I CHOSE TO COMMENT ON ARE SO CLOSE TO ZERO, THEY MAY AS WELL BE ZERO!

    SO KISS MY AAAAAA ASS!

    (ALL AMERICAN AIRBORNE AGNOSTIC ATHEIST ACTIVIST ASS)

  • http://marniemaclean.com Marnie

    Apropos nothing, I have found, that people who respond to criticism by focusing on their own credentials and telling everyone how much smarter, better educated, braver, and sexually virile they are than anyone who disagrees with them, usually do so because they’re arguments can’t stand on its own.

  • http://www.AtheistsUnited.org/ Neil C. Reinhardt

    I CARE LESS WHAT YOU HAVE FOUND.

    I DEFY YOU, OF ANYONE ELSE TO PROVE I HAVE EVER LIED ON ANY SUBEJECT AT ANY TIME OR THAT ANY OF MY COMMENTS ARE
    EITHER LOGICALLY OR FACTUALLY FALSE!

    YET INSTEAD OF RETARDS EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PROVE I AM WRONG, THEY ATTACK ME FOR NO VALID REASON.

    NEXT

    HEY JOHN

    ASIDE FROM THE FACT I THINK THE ODDS ARE WERE YOU DRAFTED,
    THE FACTS ARE ALSO AROUND 20
    PERCENT QUALIFY AS EXPERT MARKSMEN AND NOT 50% AS YOU SAID.

    AND FYI JOHN, WHIMPS ARE NOT COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYERS OR ARE THEY BOUNCERS IN A LARGE LA AREA NIGHT CLUB OR MP’S OR CIVIL DEFENSE AUXILIARY POLICE OFFICERS OR ALWAYS RUN TOWARD DANGER TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP OTHERS AS I ALWAYS HAVE, AND STILL DO.

    HAVE YOU EVER PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR OTHERS? MOST
    PROBABLY NOT.

    YOU ARE THE TYPE WHO HIDES BEHIND THEIR COMPUTER WHILE ATTACKING OTHERS.

    LAST JOHN, WIMPS DO NOT USE THEIR REAL FULL NAMES ON THE INTERNET WHILE PISSIING OFF RETARDS LIKE YOU.