Offensive on Soooo Many Levels

Read this representative paragraph from an Elevate GF ad:

SPECIAL REPORT: How To Grow 3+ Inches Taller in Just a Matter of Weeks Using This 1 Simple Trick That Celebrities Use.

You may have heard of the enormously popular Elevate GF in the news. It’s a completely organic supplement that celebrities & body builders use around the world that they don’t want you knowing about. But today we are leaking the secret. Elevate GF offers many benefits primarily due to its high anti-oxidant content. It’a all natural HGH hormones make is a “Stud “Building” machine. If you’re skeptical, you’re not alone. When we first learned about this ‘grow taller’ miracle, our fad radar went off right away.

My Inner Editor is disturbed. All the typos — for instance “It’a” and “make is” and the extra quotes in “Stud Building” — are original. This guy is in such a hurry to screw money out of his victims he can’t be bothered to get somebody to proofread his ad copy.

My Inner Realist is even more annoyed, because the content of the thing is so phony and unbelievable. No, you’re not going to take this supplement and grow taller. Not. Even aside from the bit where you reach whatever full adult height you reach and then stop growing and don’t grow anymore, this advertisement is such a con that small items will probably vanish off your desk as you read it.

My Inner Short Guy (5’3″) is not even interested. Yes, when we were teens and preteens we short-ish people all wanted to be taller. For some of us, no doubt it lasts into our 20s. But most of us eventually understand that being a complete person is not something that comes with height … or whatever other physical/mental manifestation Life confronts you with.

Yes, there will be annoyances in every day of your life. I sometimes have to CLIMB to reach stuff at the grocery store. But Life blows crap like that at everybody. There are an infinite number of things worse than me having to monkey up a supermarket shelf. But that really doesn’t even matter; what matters is that you learn to soldier on, no matter what, and take what joys you can in your own personal experience of living.

Most offended, though, is my Inner Compassionate Person. Offended that you can get away with crap like this for even one day. That you can consciously, deliberately, blithely scheme to fuck over yet another victim group and not be immediately confronted by a angry mob and beaten within an inch of your life. (And yes, I do mean that.)

I’ve been having some … oh, call it “nuanced views” of our hallowed Freedom of  Speech in the past year or so.

I feel strongly that all we INDIVIDUALS must have it. But I’m feeling less and less that any entity other than an individual human should be granted that same freedom. That Constitutional rights were never intended to be granted to corporations and companies, to THINGS.

In my off-the-cuff philosophical formulation …

Lies are camouflage for predators, protective coloration for the weak.

The more I look at the lies of someone like this “grow taller” scammer, or Fox News — all of which are purely predatory, and inevitably accompanied by the pose that the person telling you the tale is your great-good-friend-and-ally — the less I feel that Freedom of Speech is, or should be, any part of it.

Because it’s really the freedom to victimize people, isn’t it? Oh, this guy will probably not get away with this scam forever. We do still have laws about truth in advertising. But Fox News, richer and cleverer and more well-connected … they will get away with it forever. Churches … ? Oh, hell. You can’t even call them liars.

  • Artor

    Churches are liars. There, I said it. It was pretty easy, actually. Try it yourself.

    • Mike D

      Atheists are self-deceived liars thinking they’re telling the truth. Wow! You’re right – that was pretty easy! Thanks for the encouragement to step forward with truth.

    • MAP

      Everyone lies congrats now both your comments are useless :D

    • Raphael A.

      Absolutely nothing to do with Elevate GF. Take this comment (and its replies) to its rightful blog.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017276335 Strewth

    The world is not a bowl of cherries for the tall, either. I’ll be damned if I can find pants that fit off-the-rack, and bashing your head on things gets old FAST. So yes, I am also offended by this sizeist, scammy piece of crap.

    • bradleybetts

      I second THAT ^ :)

      Also, since when did anti-oxidants make you taller?

      • Rafael A. Gonzalez

        Hello,

        While Elevate GF does incorporate antioxidants, it is not the only element present in the proprietary blend. What makes this product work are the four intensively researched ingredients listed on the site. This alone, I must say, increases their credibility and trust towards the vendors. I recall not simply buying into Elevate GF because of their fancy site and claims…nowadays any unscrupulous company can perform this practice.

        • Raphael A.

          Would anyone care to be “spoon-fed” the ingredients? Not a chance! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

    • Aliasalpha

      I’m tall, fat & have enormous feet, I’ve never once bought reasonably priced clothing

      • F [disappearing]

        Most clothing fits no-one. Even people in the easy-to-manufacture-for range rarely get a really decent fit. This is fucking stupid. Everyone should be able to find clothes which fit well, no matter their physical proportions.

        • bobo

          Tall women have a tough time. I remember growing up as a kid, I could never find pants the right length. I was forced to walk around in clam-diggers half the time:P

    • Raphael A.

      Or so you think…

  • baal

    “all natural HGH hormones”
    Sigh, you can purify or have biotech make HGH and if injected regularly during the growth phase (aka childhood and adolescence) that person can gain a few inches in height. Note that all of that needs to be true, not natural – actual, timing, dosing etc. Once your growth plate hits the end of your bones, you’re done. Adults cannot grow taller even on HGH (though it does make changes to adults as well those are not determinant).

    The underlying problem here is one of law. So long as the quack fraudster is selling something that does nothing, it’s not a drug and the FDA has to stay out of it. The AG dept can regulate but if the stuff does nothing, it’ll be GRAS (generally recognized as safe, yes that’s a legal concept no proof needed, tradition counts) and not regulatable. The fact that it’s a lie and prays on insecurity and fears, well, that’s too bad. I rather the law were changed to say that implied health benefits are regulated by the FDA the same way drugs are.

    • baal

      typo – determinant should be permanent.

    • Raphael A.

      Hello,

      I can’t help but disagree with the fact that growth plates are the sole determinants of the final height of a human. Elevate GF is designed with a science most people are unaware about until it’s too late in their lives to influence their height. And no, it isn’t just focused on improving the cartilaginous spaces between the spine.

    • Raphael A.

      You are wrong here. GRAS refers to you, “baal” as well as to this discussion, to Hank Fox, and to the current contributors. They are Generally Recognized as Simple-Minded.

  • Konradius

    You’re totally not getting this. These emails are deliberately offensively stupid.
    It’s very cheap to send emails to millions of addresses. It’s far more expensive to actually answer the returning emails. So by making the emails stupid they’re limiting the returning emails to the really mentally challenged people who might fall for the scams.
    To be honest this email is actually far more intelligently worded than the average spam that I see. Perhaps an indication the return emails are getting scarcer.

    Note that I think I read this analysis on the freakonomics blog. It’s not my original idea.

    • Raphael A.

      First off, Elevate GF doesn’t even have the ability to send e-mails to customers, whether such customers are enrolled or not. Second, I think it’s you who is mentally challenged since EVERYONE, by now, should know that the Men’s Health Elevate GF page is nothing more than an A-D-V-E-R-T-O-R-I-A-L, a.k.a an advertisement in the form of a magazine editorial.

      • http://www.miketheinfidel.com/ MikeTheInfidel

        I don’t think you have the *slightest* idea how internet marketing works.

        • Raphael A.

          You and everyone else on this blog are just making fools of yourselves. Keep talking, bashing and down-voting my comments because it won’t change my results from undergoing the Elevate GF treatment. In about two-three years’ time, I will probably be towering somewhere above six feet two inches and you and everyone on this blog will be left talking to yourselves. BE ADULTS, GRAB YOUR CROTCHES, DO YOUR RESEARCH, AND HAVE THE COURAGE TO STEP FORWARD!

          • Hank Fox

            Raf, I think we’re getting to the point where you need to stop.
            You’ve done all you can; call it quits and move on.

  • jamessweet

    My Inner Short Guy (5’3″) is not even interested. Yes, when we were teens and preteens we short-ish people all wanted to be taller. For some of us, no doubt it lasts into our 20s. But most of us eventually understand that being a complete person is not something that comes with height … or whatever other physical/mental manifestation Life confronts you with.

    Can’t entirely agree here, I’m 5’9″, and if there were a pill that would make me 5’11″ and was relatively inexpensive and had no negative side effects, you bet I’d take it! It’s not like I’m crying myself to sleep every night over my height, but there are some advantages…. when I was single, I actually would have paid a lot of money for such a thing, heh…

    • Hank Fox

      My answer to that would have to be: If there’s someone who can’t accept me for what I am, they don’t deserve to be in my life. There were definitely people — women and men both — who saw my height as a shortcoming, but none of them became friends. Not because I didn’t measure up, but because THEY didn’t.

      I may be shorter than average, but I ROCK shorter than average.

      • dgrasett

        to mangle an answer purported to be by Lincoln -
        Your legs only have to be long enough to reach the ground.

        From another who has to climb the grocery shelves.

        • Nomen Nescio

          speaking from the height of six foot even, i confess it’s convenient. being able to reach most shelves without having to stretch too much, or fetch a stepladder, comes in handy often enough that i notice it.

          other than that, though, meh. i have relatives considerably taller than myself, and i can’t recall envying them that.

          • F [disappearing]

            The way I look at that is: Who designed the fucking shelves? Seriously, most people cannot even reach the second or third shelf in home kitchen cabinetry. Of course, about half of this is due to efficient use of space, but apparently a standard method of reaching this space easily and safely is never a consideration. Most ladders and step-stools and whatnot really aren’t very appropriate and just take up extra space. And you can outright forget about safety in stores.

      • Rafael A. Gonzalez

        Honestly, Mr. Fox, your conformity is quite admirable. If I were in your shoes, I don’t really know how I’d feel but I’d most likely consider my desire for height as a personality issue.Quite a lot of girls at my university are 5’5” or over, but there are others in the 6ft and over range who could enjoy my company despite my current height. Like you said, height doesn’t make a person, although for me, it’s just one of those things (along with physique) I want to work on improving given my current age (21). By the way, how old are you yourself?

        • Raphael A.

          Sorry Elevate GF wasn’t available at the right time for you, but it is still quite admirable that you hold your head high at 5’3”.

          • Hank Fox

            Gah. Thanks … I think.

          • Raphael A.

            You “think”? Be happy that I had a former shred of respect for you prior to this madness of a discussion which I DID NOT instigate.

        • Raphael A.

          I believe at this point I take back what I said in the comment above about you, Hank Fox.

  • Aliasalpha

    What is it about scam pills? They always claim to add around 3 inches, they just vary where its supposed to happen

    • danielhill

      hahaha,lol fuckin hilarious. so true tho.

      • Raphael A.

        No.

    • Raphael A.

      Elevate GF is not a scam. Period.

  • =8)-DX

    What about your Inner health-conscious person. This supplement most probably has no effect (just placebo), or the HGH just goes through your digestive system without affecting anything, but I find it offensive that they’re implying people willy-nilly ingest human growth hormone, without medical indication – that’s not reasonable.

    • Rafael A. Gonzalez

      Hello,

      Just to clarify, this might not be a placebo since they clearly list the ingredients the pill contains. It isn’t artificial HGH by any means :)

      • Raphael A.

        Elevate GF is NOT a placebo… GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD EVERYONE! THIS SUPPLEMENT ACTUALLY WORKS!!

        • baal

          “THIS SUPPLEMENT ACTUALLY WORKS”
          Fascinating. I have some moss from my back yard that I’ve been using as a SUPPLEMENT THAT WORKS. Would you like to buy some?

          • Raphael A.

            Oh, but while you are at it, could you please shove your stupidity back up the right place? Because you are only embarrassing yourself.

          • baal

            I’m impressed you made 12 sock puppets to downvote me.

          • Raphael A.

            Well, for your information my “sock puppets” and myself are now telling you to get lost and stop offending people. Like I said countless times, *call the company* and stop being a hindrance to the online community. You are damaging your own reputation. I have simply been defending my own.

    • Rafael A. Gonzalez

      I cam across an article recently that points out unscrupulous companies that actually do fabricate health-hazardous so-called “HGH Boosters”, such which contain amino acids that can be harmful to the body.
      Elevate GF has absolutely NO amino acids whatsoever and the research behind this supplement has lasted for many years. Growth Flex V is a potential scam since it only consists of a combination of two amino acids that do nothing for you except contribute to a little muscle growth and that’s it (L-Arginine and L-Ornthinine).

      • Raphael A.

        *No marketing was ever intended for the creation of the above comment*

    • Raphael A.

      This is NOT an HGH pill. Any HGH-containing pills are scam products that can be potentially harmful and they are blacklisted all over the internet. Anyone that has done extensive research should know that Elevate GF has no HGH. Whoever thinks going through excruciating and life-threatening measures to develop the body is the smartest path to take even after passing the teenage years is honestly just plain stupid.

  • Crudely Wrott

    I’m five foot ten and a half inches if I stretch first thing in the morning. I’m quite comfortable with that altitude. What I have wished for is to be a bit . . . thicker. More massive. But I’m not. Ces’t la vie.

    There is an advantage though. I can go places that larger, thicker, people cannot go. Go there and get back out. Holding stuff. No shit, it has come in handy a time or two. So there.

    • Raphael A.

      I’m almost certain Elevate GF can help you :) Disregard the down-votes, please. There are just a bunch of rude people on this blog.

  • Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    Now if they sold pills that would make me immune to scams, I’d be all over them.

    • Guest

      OK :)

  • Pablo Ordaz

    I am 5″11 And i’d take it in the same terms you would so i don’t blame you, i have to admit tho’. I was almost going to order this thing…

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  • Rafael A. Gonzalez

    Hello,

    I myself am ready to give this a try. I’ve already ordered my trial bottle for $4.95 and customer service is VERY friendly and knowledgeable. One thing is for sure: you never will know just how effective something might be until you try it.

    Now before you fulminate against my person, I had my suspicions about the supposed “Men’s Health” page in which Elevate GF was featured. I would be inclined to think Elevate GF might have engineered this page to promote their product since the links for Youtube videos on the page and just about every other link redirects you to the elevategf.com homepage.

    Nevertheless, I guide myself through customer service and the fact that they are not making you spend the large sum of money on a 3-month supply at once says quite a bit about their still-to-develop legitimacy in the market. Also, they offer discounts for their supplies of Elevate GF. They actually let you try out the product for 14 days. Bodybuilding.com has at least one legitimate user of Elevate GF and such person reported a 2 inch increase. You do, however, have to follow a strict regimen of exercise, stretching, and dieting. Popping the pill into your mouth without the mentioned regimen might not produce the desired effect. Customer service even recommends this themselves.

    I understand what I just wrote goes against what you mentioned in your article, but sometimes, it’s important to balance out our skepticism and open-mindedness in life. Otherwise, we may be bound to become simple life forms with no desire to evolve mentally (aside from the scholarly sense), let alone physically.

    Just my humble opinion :)

    • baal

      You are some sort of reverse humorist Rafael A. Gonzalez?

      • Raphael A.

        No way! :) I’m simply speaking out of personal experience with this product.

      • Raphael A.

        Exactly how am I being humorous, may I ask??

      • Raphael A.

        Plus five down votes

      • Raphael A.

        Learn to write your English before asking questions on public blogs, please. I believe nobody even knows what you intended to ask me, “baal”. “Reverse Humorist”? Read my comments and see if they are in any way, shape, or form “humorous” to you.

    • Juniper

      “One thing is for sure: you never will know just how effective something might be until you try it.”

      No. What bullshit. We test medicines by double-blinded studies because anecdotes (about medicine) are NOT data. Even if I took it and grew taller, I wouldn’t know if the drugs caused the growth spurt, or if I just happened to be due for a late growth spurt anyway. For example, I had a boob growth spurt nearly 20 years after puberty that was not related to weight gain or pregnancy. Bodies vary, sometimes in unusual ways.

      Also, if I had kidney failure or cancer 20 years later, I would never know if that was caused by this drug. All medicines which have effects, have side
      effects. All. When you turn yourself into a guinea pig, don’t forget that you’re not just risking “it might work, and it might be a scam which profits dishonest people at my expense.” There’s another option: “it might damage my body or kill me.”

      “I understand what I just wrote goes against what you mentioned in your article, but sometimes, it’s important to balance out our skepticism and open-mindedness in life. Otherwise, we may be bound to become simple life forms with no desire to evolve mentally (aside from the scholarly
      sense), let alone physically.”

      It’s never “important” for me to engage in stupid, potentially self-harming behavior for someone else’s profit. What on earth does “evolve mentally (aside from the scholarly sense)” even
      mean?

      • Raphael A.

        Hello,
        Elevate GF is actually not a “medicine” and the ingredients are supposed to have no side effects either on the short or long run. When I said “scholarly sense”, I meant to say academically speaking (in terms of how we contribute to society either as doctors, businessmen, amongst the like).

      • Raphael A.

        “It’s never “‘important”‘ for me to engage in stupid, potentially self-harming behavior for someone else’s profit”.
        Allow me to share my two shiny cents with you, lady: I would have never spent my limited, valuable savings money if I knew Elevate GF could have harmful effects on me or is something like the GenF20 HGH Releaser that is just downright useless for my purposes. Essentially, you are indirectly calling me a stupid, lifeless, self-conscious person who bought Elevate GF out of insecurity with himself when I am VERY much secure of who I am. You know what, time and things change, along with a person’s intelligence. I became much more aware and knowledgeable about so-called Grow Taller products way before I even knew about Elevate GF. I had my doubts as well, but I did research because I decided my doctor was full of nonsense when he said my growth had ceased. Ever since then, I have purchased height growth guides that recommend fasting and yes, I stopped using such programs because the methods were impractical and downright dangerous. I know for a fact that fasting is one of those things that can have adverse effects on the body in terms of the long run.
        Do with my commentaries what you wish, but this is what I think and that will never change no matter what kind of attack you have up your sleeve at this moment.

        By the way, I’m a learned writer and I don’t know what the hell (excuse the language, mod) “…line some crook’s pocket” means. On top of everything, nobody needs your useless scientific explanation about medicines and side effects to supposedly back up why Elevate GF is a scam and poisonous supplement to you. It seems you are not even mentally evolved enough to understand everything I have commented about Mr. Fox’s blog this whole time.

      • Raphael A.

        What can I say? At least I have been correct and inoffensive with my comments unlike yourself and your “bullshit”-uttering mouth.

    • Guest

      Do people even read what I have to say before down-voting? How disappointing and pathetic!

    • Raphael A.

      WmdKitty,
      Before immediately down-voting my comments, why not try highlighting the whole text and using the audio feature on your computer to possibly understand what I said above? Maybe you just cannot absorb text visually, who knows. Everyone’s learning is quite different. I repeat, for the general public: THE PERSON WHO HAS DOWN-VOTED THIS COMMENT IS MOST LIKELY THE SAME ONE WHO DOWN-VOTED ALL MY OTHER COMMENTS FOR NO VALID REASON.

      Please do not follow the lead since he/she might be under the completely false assumption that I am a marketer for Elevate GF. Either that, or he/she has a very poor ability to discriminate between obvious scammers/marketers and satisfied customers. I apologize if this sounds like an attack, but it’s most probably the truth at this point in time.

      • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

        Or maybe you sound like a late-night advertisement, and people don’t much appreciate it.

        • Raphael A.

          “People?” You and what army? Most of the smarter people who do their part of investigating potentially helpful products seek testimonials and informative facts about said products anywhere other than this blog. For all I “appreciate” your remarks, they are just buried, smelly muck which no person who is highly and extremely interested in Elevate GF would ever read.
          Face it, you are too mentally blind to even tell a sincere customer from a marketer/advertiser. But I guess that is how most people are nowadays: wrongfully obstinate about their opinions.

        • Raphael A.

          I hope you comprehend that your derisive behavior against my comments has caused me to lose credibility on this blog. Good luck finding your own source of self-satisfaction, because guess what, around five to ten years from now I will more than likely add 12 inches of brand new height with Elevate GF and you will still idiotically believe that a perfectly natural, legitimate product as EGF is a “scam” and that I am a stupid, insecure “spammer” interfering with blissful ignorance. Too bad…

  • Rafael A. Gonzalez

    Also, I’m 5’10′.5” and I have no personality issues with my height AT ALL. I just reached a point in my life where I think height and overall improvement in my physique is something worth working towards alongside a great college education.

    • Raphael A.

      What a sad waste of words from my part! Do people still think I’m a marketer at this point? Wow…

      • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

        If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…

        • Raphael A.

          If she smells like junk and spits out useless junk, then she surely must be junk.

  • Austin Pierce

    God this stuff is a scam Along with Sytropin and NO2 Maximus. You go in reading about free trials and bottles that will be sent to you only for shipping, then after getting suspicious that the offer is too good to be true (it is) you sometimes literally have to look up the terms and conditions on google because you can’t find the link on their site. now I have to cancel my trials and return the bottles within several short time periods or else I’ll be charged an additional $90 from EACH FUCKING COMPANY. It’s okay though, for the sytropin I’ll just take the majority of it, put it in a different container and dilute the rest with water. The NO2 and Elevate GF I’ll just buy some cheap supplement at the store and transfer the contents of said pills into the capsules of the cheap stuff I bought, then send them back their capsules (filled with sand because fuck them.) I’m a 19 year old with lawyer fees, rent to pay, a car that’s going to shit and enough stress already, I didn’t need this. Scammers have no soul, I’m convinced of that now.

    • Raphael A.

      I wouldn’t recommend Sytropin since their supplement uses homeopathic HGH, an unproven method of administering HGH to the human body. Also, I would recommend using the Customer Service line for Elevate GF. You can absolutely get many discounts on the monthly shipment as well as on straight sales for the product (which is how I have twenty four bottles of Elevate GF on hand).

    • Raphael A.

      Try this… it’s called reading the fine print before inputing your credit card info. Just a helpful tip.

  • Raphael A.

    Hello,
    First off, (and with all respects for your person), I could care very little for how nonsensical you find my comments to be. It’s really sad and downright pitiful that I use vocabulary and phrases that should be understandable to a certain degree in public forums such as this one but in reality they aren’t, even after I had explained my point to you in a response post since I understand NOBODY is perfect :)

    Also, if you don’t believe in anything and I believe in possibilities that will make people more open-minded and even healthier and more developed, that is something completely different and it’s something you should have respect for (again, I don’t care if you don’t). Once again, this is a public blog and EVERYONE is entitled to their own honest opinions. I am certainly not a marketer for Elevate GF; I am just an honest user who has already seen positive results from the product after more than five months of usage. Yes, I haven’t grown taller, but again, I have two years worth of bottles in my hands so what do I have to lose? Customer Service is available twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week and they can answer ANYTHING about the product. They aren’t crooks and they are very much receptive to customers, their needs, and their budget.
    Yes, I have had a couple of rude and apathetic people from Elevate GF assist me, but life is that way sometimes and this was a highly and extremely rare case.

    Thank for contributing your sources and definitions for medicine, but unfortunately they don’t apply to Elevate GF since you only use such definitions against it.

    Also, you might be wondering at this point why I’m even writing this comment if this blog goes completely against Elevate GF. Simple: I want to help those who visit this site and want to try the supplement. Hopefully, they will not fall so easily for negative people like yourself.

    Have a nice life.

    • Raphael A.

      Also, this goes to everyone else who commented on this blog, replied to my posts, and pathetically down-voted my posts: I-DON’T-CARE. In the end I will be gaining height from this obviously proven product and you will all be the same heights forever because instead of opening your minds to bigger and better things that could work, you just behave rudely and act suspicious to my comments (and I don’t blame you for the latter since there are indeed scammers out there), on top of believing in old wive’s tales and very outdated “scientific facts”. ALL I’M ATTEMPTING TO DO IS TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS WORKING FOR ME. Anyhow, I’m officially done visiting this blog and may you all have a fantastic rest of your lives. Seek the help you need from somebody else…your doctor perhaps.
      To all those who visit this site and are curious about Elevate GF, read this blog and you’ll see why I left it dejectedly. Bottom line, do not believe what other people say and read with cunning and caution…YOU must try the product out for yourself. PERIOD.

      • Hank Fox

        Raph, at 21, I suppose you might still grow another inch or two. But if you do, I doubt it will be due to this stuff.

        My mind is totally open to bigger and better things. It’s why I became an atheist. It’s why I wrote my first book when I was approaching 60. It’s why I still go out and have outdoor adventures.

        My mind is also open to the possibility — the huge likelihood — that some things are scams.

        This sounds so much like a scam, something that preys on the credulous and the ignorant and the desperate, it’s vanishingly likely it’s anything but.

        • Raphael A.

          Mr. Fox,

          Ever since I was 16 years of age my pediatrician kept stating that “I would most likely not grow taller”. Effectively, since I was 16, I haven’t grown as much as I think is my potential so at this point in my life, I’m sick and tired of remaining on the sidelines and letting other people (including those in negative blogs) dictate how much I will grow. Elevate GF seems to be the most practical means to gain height and I’m almost certain it works, regardless of what you, Mr./Mrs. “wmdkitty”,”Juniper”, or ANY HUMAN BEING has to say about it. It’s backed up by very friendly representatives who are not just knowledgeable, but even provide substantial discounts on the product. I encourage you to talk to them. As a 21-year old, I am typically VERY cautious with how I manage my funds since my parents provide them to me, and I think, until now having still taken Elevate GF, the investment has proven itself worthy to a considerable degree. It requires a good deal of time though (around 6 months or more as per the company) to see substantial and noticeable results.

          And on a side note, I do not need to be spending my valuable time writing these posts, but all I’m doing is spreading the word about something that could work for a lot of people. If you’ve looked through the internet for Elevate GF blogs, you will notice I posted in each and every one. Why? Because although the bottom line is I WILL grow more than just a couple of inches, I feel it a bit of a responsibility to light the obscurity and spread the message that Elevate GF works. It doesn’t matter to me whether or not people see my comments as “poorly thought-out”, “cute”, or whatnot, I know what I say is true and I most definitely revise what I type before clicking the “Post Comment” button so as to not come off as a complete buffoon. If you ban me, well…have a great life and may you enjoy what negativity and darkness have to offer :) Oh, and congratulations for your book, but I won’t be buying it any time soon or in the distant future.
          The End

        • Raphael A.

          If this works on my body, though, I’m keeping my final results between myself and Elevate GF Customer Service. I have no obligation to share my harvests with anybody who is spiteful and unreceptive with me or with my comments. Attention down-voters: It’s also because of you that I won’t share squat about my experiences with Elevate GF, one of the best (if not the best) supplements of all time. Done.

        • Raphael A.

          “…at 21, I suppose you might still grow another inch or two”. This, by itself, is highly likely to be pure nonsense in my case (and I’m not in denial; I was always a slow grower, even during my teenage years). Additionally, this is the same way my pediatrician addressed me, and I will repeat it once and in caps so it’s perfectly clear to everyone: NO DOCTOR, MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, OR MEDICAL STUDENT HAS ANY SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE ON HOW MUCH A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL CAN GROW AND DEVELOP IN TERMS OF MAXIMUM POTENTIAL. IF THEY SAY YOU CAN’T GROW SOLELY BECAUSE OF GROWTH PLATE CLOSURE, THEY ARE SIMPLY BRUSHING YOU OFF THEIR SHOULDERS SO YOU DON’T BOTHER THEM ABOUT IT ANY LONGER.
          Sorry, Hank Fox, but I guess I’m not alike too many people such as yourself who admit they can’t grow because his/her doctor and outdated science says so. Believe me, I’ve had doctors in the past, East, West, North, and South, tell me it would be unrealistic for me to reach six feet at my age, being 5’10.5” at the moment. If it makes you and any other punitive individuals on this blog feel better, my “genetic potential” is greater than six feet, so I can easily tower over six feet in the coming years, and I have absolutely no doubts in my mind that it can happen with Elevate GF coupled along with healthy habits, regardless of what anyone says otherwise.

    • Hank Fox

      ” … this is a public blog and EVERYONE is entitled to their own honest opinions.”

      Like most blogs, it’s a benevolent dictatorship. I don’t usually ban people making interesting comments, but I do reserve the right in potential.

      • Raphael A.

        By all means, ban the heck out of me if you wish to do so. Sorry if you can’t even move a fingernail to look further into Elevate GF and instead spend your time and energy criticizing its claims. Try it out long enough, for once. That is my friendly advice to you.

        • Hank Fox

          No-no, I’m not banning you. I find you interesting.

          • Raphael A.

            “Interesting” as in a monkey at the circus performing tricks?

  • Raphael A.

    Downvoted 5 more times :)

  • Guest

    To wmdkitty:
    DID YOU EVEN TAKE YOUR TIME TO FIND OUT ABOUT ELEVATE GF OR DO YOU JUST SPEND YOUR TIME DOWN-VOTING OTHER PEOPLE’S HELPFUL COMMENTS? WOW…THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST SITE IN THE FACE OF INTERNET TO FIND OUT ABOUT ELEVATE GF!!! GOOD-BYE FOREVER RUDE, CYNICAL PEOPLE!!

    • Hank Fox

      Guest (Rafael, I’m guessing), the deal with all-caps is:

      1) It’s considered shouting, and is boorish.

      2) It makes you instantly less interesting.

      • Raphael A.

        My apologies about the caps, but it really bothers me that I take my valuable time to write the kinds of comments you see posted on this blog (ALL based on personal experience) just so literally EVERYONE commenting on the blog sees them negatively and down-votes them horribly (0 UP-3 DOWN, for instance). It’s painful and offensive, but I suppose it’s less of an investment in time for most people to nod their heads at these horribly negative blogs than to actually step out of their comfort zone and actually attempt to achieve self-fulfillment. For now, I’m taking my time, energy, and words somewhere else were more people than none might appreciate them better.

      • Raphael A.

        Sure, but if the same person keeps down-voting my comments (which do not attack and just advise others who care about trying Elevate GF), it can imply he/she has something against me and my way of writing. Hey, it isn’t my problem if I sound like a marketer to him/her. Ultimately, people are the architects of their own realities uninfluenced by negative marketing and commentary. My reality is I can grow far more than just “an inch or two”. SO WHAT??

        • http://www.miketheinfidel.com/ MikeTheInfidel

          A year from now, when this product has failed (and it will), will you be an adult and come back here to apologize to everyone?

          • Raphael A.

            “Apologize”? NO, I think you should simply shut up and let those who actually have the product in their hands do the work. I can guarantee you the product HAS worked for me at different angles, but not yet in terms of height growth. You just take a seat all the way in the back and watch, because those who have used the product and see results (which will most certainly take place) will teach you to think before posting stupid comments about how you think internet marketing works. In fact, it is YOU who should be taking steps to become a true adult, not some self-proclaimed idiot who thinks he has the answers. Bye.

          • Raphael A.

            By the way, I don’t want to have to remind everyone that every down-vote made towards my comments adds to my strength and willingness to move forward with Elevate GF. Nice try, though ;)

          • http://www.miketheinfidel.com/ MikeTheInfidel

            I can guarantee you the product HAS worked for me at different angles, but not yet in terms of height growth.

            In other words, it has failed to work for the one thing it claims to do.

          • Raphael A.

            Mikethe[Idiot], please shut up.

          • Guest

            Mikethe[Idiot], please shut up.

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

          No. I have something against people who relentlessly push and push and push a product when said product is clearly a scam.

          • Raphael A.

            It’s clearly *not a scam*. But again, your comments are useless and have no ground since you have never tested the product for yourself.

        • baal

          If it makes you feel better Raphael A., I’m also down voting you.

          • Raphael A.

            Then go ahead and down vote me as many times as you want. See if I care.

          • Johnathan Crocker

            I’d bump you up a couple more votes for this one ;)

    • Raphael A.

      Wmdkitty, you are absolutely positively more than welcome to down-vote everything and anything I said on this blog. But guess what, plenty of other people will take my advise to heart since they will be smart enough to know it’s of an honest nature. You will be Loser in the end.

      • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

        I can’t wait for you to get ripped off by these scammers. You actually deserve it.

        • Raphael A.

          Hey, I have just checked my bank account and guess what, I have not seen but one charge from Elevate GF other than what I purchased six months ago.

  • Raphael A.

    To the set the record straight once and for all in regards to this foolish blog commentary section (sorry Hank, but that is what it is):
    UP-VOTES AND DOWN-VOTES ON PEOPLE’S COMMENTS MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. An opinion is an opinion, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. Most every blog on the internet that discusses something that could be completely based on personal opinion VERY SELDOMLY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO LET OTHERS JUST CLICK A BUTTON SO AS TO SIMPLY SAY “I DID/I DIDN’T LIKE IT”. This blog is an overwhelming exception in every way, not just in comment rating. If you have a reason to like or dislike something, here is a good idea: WRITE YOUR REASONS FOR IT!!! Literally anyone can click “Up” or “Down”, it doesn’t mean anything. It just means you might be insecure about your lack of communication and writing skills and you have to click a “Like/Dislike” button to make yourself feel better and more comfortable about the lack of such. Either that, or you simply don’t have the time or the patience to do much in life except live and use off of others and head for the easy way out. Essentially, the down-votes meant nothing to me except to give me additional strength (as I said before), but all in all, it’s very “Offensive on Soooo Many Levels”.

    • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

      So… what, I’m supposed to respond to every one of your “THIS PRODUCT REALLY REALLY WORKS I SWEAR” posts with my reasons for disliking it?

      IT’S A SCAM. And you’re spamming. Is that good enough for you?

      • Raphael A.

        No. “I swear” I am not spamming and you can keep your offensive comments to yourself.

      • Raphael A.

        Keep away from my comments, you braying ass.

        • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ wmdkitty

          It’s been almost a year and you’re still obsessing about this?

          Lay off the meth…

  • Richard Smith

    I’m 5’4″. If it weren’t for HGH, I’d probably be just over 4′ today. Of course, this was over thirty years ago, all-natural “cadaverous extract,” and injected intramuscularly. I got x-rayed frequently during the treatment, checking on my “bone age” to determine if further growth was still feasible, while the bones were still allowing further growth. I’d reckon that, beyond that stage of development, any excess levels of HGH in the body, either produced by a “stimulated” pituitary or injected, would possibly result in acromegaly, rather than any extra height.

    If there truly was a way to stimulate the pituitary to produce more HGH, I might consider it, but then my hypopituitarism is the result of a 1/4-sized pituitary, so I’m afraid it would probably only almost bring it to a normal level, if not burn it out.

  • Raphael A.

    It’s time you eliminated this blog. Admit it, YOU AND THE COMMENTERS LOST AND YOU KNOW IT. The Age of FuckYou will NEVER, EVER, EVER apply to Elevate GF, in case you had that idea in the back of your head.

    • Hank Fox

      Raphael, give it a rest. Nobody lost anything, because a discussion is not a contest. If you don’t like this blog, there must be thousands of others out there for you to haunt.

      • Raphael A.

        PLEASE READ THIS, HANK FOX. IT’S WORTH YOUR WHILE TO KNOW MY INTENTIONS FOR THE LAST TIME.

        All right, for one thing, I am not “haunting” ANYONE. I simply expressed to the public what they needed to hear so they don’t spend any more of their time and energy lying to themselves with undoubtedly false assumptions about Elevate GF. Be reminded that this is based on MY experience which I have evidently failed to communicate on account of hostile behavior from practically every discussion contributor for this blog (with the moderator himself included).

        Second of all, the opinions expressed on said blog are clearly and extremely biased and I (a perfectly honest commenter) have been treated with crudeness and pretentiousness because people refuse to believe I am telling the truth. They think I am spamming the internet and being offensive when it’s really THEM who are being truly impudent and unreceptive to the undeniable FACT that opinions should not be attacked or seen as subordinate in any way, shape, or form. The manner in which my comments have been received thus far goes to show that this blog is an unhealthy and sickening place for anyone who desires to share an opinion that can go completely against the author’s writing.

        Furthermore, I am not competing for anything, sir, much less for the higher share of attention in this overly critical and simple-minded discussion. This goes to EACH and EVERY one of those persons who have been involved with this blog, be it with votes or actual feedback.

        Do with my thoughts what you wish, but I can guarantee you this blog will never be so much as eyed by anyone with enough foresight to get in touch with the company itself prior to reading the thoughts and opinions of others on as rotten a place as the internet. And yes, you and the rest of the offenders that form this discussion in its entirety *lost* regarding where Elevate GF truly stands in the market. It’s about time you listened to someone else other than yourself and negative enablers.

  • Raphael A.

    My final word to anyone and everyone who has spited me and spited Elevate GF (including those who are out there on the World Wide Web making unjustified criticisms): Call the darned company and convince yourselves about whether or not the product seems legitimate or is nothing but a simple scam. I no longer have any time to waste on foolish, mentally underdeveloped people. All I can say is that my comments have backing as I have used the product faithfully for over seven months. Furthermore, I have already secured an insanely, uncommonly cheap price for my future purchases on the product, and this I can guarantee you is genuine sincerity from my part.

  • Raphael A.

    In case you hold a position against me in this discussion, please understand that I did not need to retaliate in the fashion that I have. Nonetheless, literally *every* contributor (including the irrational author of this supposed Elevate GF “review”) has behaved unacceptably and impudently with me and my remarks. Unfortunately, I do not appreciate or tolerate the fact that I happen to be the only person defending my position as well as taking in an unnecessary and repulsive amount of detestable responses. I only hope your comment was not intended to indirectly put me to shame, because either way, I could care little to nothing about it.

    • Sammy

      The message was clearly for Hank, as I began the post with “Hank Fox,…” I’m not really sure why you’re directing your diatribe at me.

      • Guest

        Then I sincerely apologize for I assumed you read everything else in the discussion. I am *very* disappointed by the antagonistic behavior displayed by everyone else, though, and I was under the impression you were taking sides with them. And please don’t confuse “personal defense” with “invectives”. As I already established numerous times, I have personally been consuming Elevate GF for a very reasonable amount of time and I’m willing to help and correctly inform people who will not behave resentfully with me or what I have to say about the product.

        • Guest

          I assume Hank Fox downvoted this. It is of no import. An opinion will be an opinion always and forever.

        • Raphael A.

          Disregard the “Guest” comments.

      • Raphael A.

        Then I sincerely apologize for I assumed you read everything else in the discussion. I am *very* disappointed by the antagonistic behavior displayed by everyone else though, and I was under the impression you were taking sides with them. And please don’t confuse “personal defense” with “invectives”. As I already established numerous times, I have personally been consuming Elevate GF for a very reasonable amount of time and I’m willing to help and correctly inform people who will not behave resentfully with me or what I have to say about the product. And honestly, I naturally took your comment as an emotional strike against my remarks and I don’t appreciate it even one bit if that is the case. Again, I’m sorry for misjudging your intentions, if it makes you feel any better about the situation. *ON TOP OF THIS, I SEE THAT YOU UP-VOTED A LOT OF THE IMPUDENT REMARKS MADE BY OTHER IDIOTS ABOUT MY COMMENTS. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY AND FOR YOUR OWN SAKE AND REPUTATION, ABSTAIN YOURSELF FROM BEHAVING AS IF I HAVE OFFENDED YOU, BECAUSE IT’S I WHO HAS BEEN SPITED MULTIPLE TIMES. WITH ALL SINCERITY, THIS COLLECTIVE BEHAVIOR FROM EVERYONE IS A SEVERELY BLATANT ASSAULT AGAINST MY HONEST POSITION*.

      • Johnathan Crocker

        Hmmm. Could you possibly tell me why Raphael would have any obligation to be kind with individuals who have behaved irrationally with his opinions? He has a right to question, too.

  • Raphael A.

    In response to “Spuddie’s” FTC comment: Shut the hell up, you stupid buffoon.

  • Raphael A.

    Ayurvedic Urea. Now THIS is something worthy of a discussion. There’s little to no proof that it works and it is considered a medicine/drug which could potentially harm the body. The most documented side effect? A very high incidence of lethargy. Elevate GF (a SUPPLEMENT with *proven* ingredients) is *FAR MORE* humane and legitimate than said drug since it allows people to improve their *natural* HGH levels which contribute to muscle growth, vertical growth, improved health, amongst the like and seeing the results is a matter of time and patience. A.U.’s claims revolve around helping people experience bone growth in the shortest amount of time, ultimately promising height increases of up to 8 inches. If you ask me, THAT is something not too reasonable to consume and most supposed A.U. vendors make use of these claims to inappropriately and unacceptably take advantage of the naive and uninformed public. Nevertheless, quite a few people on the internet mention that they benefited from the drug, but I highly doubt the validity of these stories unless they provide evidence of their growth. Personally, I would *never* use this “miracle medicine” to gain even 1mm of vertical body height.
    Moreover, Elevate GF is backed up by a professional company and very helpful customer service whilst A.U. is sold at an exorbitant price with a reputation of unhelpful, rude and suspicious vendors who do not even provide valid means of contact (presuming they use false electronic mailing addresses and inexistent phone numbers). The worse part is that these vendors sell their product overseas; hardly anybody sells authentic A.U. within the U.S. of A. and most times the product sold is forged.

    On a final note, think twice before labeling people with unjustified and ludicrous name tags and do some research. I’m not simply ejecting this information from my head and I never meant to mislead anybody about Elevate GF (as I’m only a customer) but I never should have been entitled to receive overly impudent criticism. It’s not correct and nobody deserves to feel unwelcome in an open blog. Everybody’s opinion should be appreciated and do not expect sincere commenters to accept others’ derisive and disdainful reactions, either directly or indirectly. It’s important to assume the consequences of anything you say or do, such being a fact of life.

  • Raphael A.

    I don’t work for the company, so you can shut up because you are just fooling yourself. Furthermore, by the standards of any blog, your comment is offensive.

  • Hank Fox

    Just FYI, I deleted some of Raphael A’s recent comments, and banned him from further comments. His insistent attention to this very minor blog post and its aftermath is … well, a bit much.

    Raph, MOVE ON. Whether people agree or disagree with you, this should be no more than one little blip on one’s personal radar, barely above the level of non-signal noise.

    Go live your life. Forget this. Seriously, nothing here is worth the time you’re spending on it.

    • Johnathan Crocker

      I liked the last part of this comment, but “insistent attention”? In one of his comments he specifically said he *wasn’t* looking for attention.

      • Hank Fox

        Yeah, he SAID that.

        • Johnathan Crocker

          “Furthermore, I am not competing for anything, sir, much less for the higher share of attention in this overly critical and simple-minded discussion.”
          Are you sure he was *truly* seeking attention, Hank?

  • Johnathan Crocker

    Interesting viewpoint Hank. But from what I have just read in the discussion and also based on your blog as a whole, I don’t believe it to be at all correct and justified to condemn and verbally attack someone who seems to be obviously sincere with his opinions. I *might* give Elevate GF a shot judging from what the user Raphael has had to say, but only until I reorganize my budget. Conclusively and realistically, those who have ridiculed Raphael have most (if not all) of the blame and I think he had every right to behave defensively against those who offended him and disagreed with his statements for no valid reason. And Raphael: Relax! :)

  • Johnathan Crocker

    You’re hillarious Spuddie. How about you join the circus?

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