This Atheist Supports Mike Huckabee! Let’s Go To Mars!

Holy Bejebus, how cold is Hell right now? This atheist agrees with former Governor Mike Huckabee!

Here’s a tweet Huckabee sent yesterday:

No. I it’s not because I want all churches burnt to the ground and replaced with libraries. I’m a strong supporter of religious freedom (and property rights). My reasoning is twofold.

First, I agree with Huckabee that American citizens (including ministers) should free to speak their conscious without political interference. However, sine churches are tax-exempt, the actions and words of clergy are significantly restricted (as it should be). Huckabee had this to say during the Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting in Houston:

“You may not clap real loud for this, but at least hear me out and think about it and pray about it,” he said. “I think we need to recognize that it may be time to quit worrying so much about the tax code and start thinking more about the truth of the living God, and if it means that we give up tax-exempt status and tax deductions for charitable contributions, I choose freedom more than I choose a deduction that the government gives me permission to say what God wants me to say.”

Huckabee said it may be time for churches to say: “Keep your deductions. Keep the exemptions. We stand more faithful with what God would have us to say, and we choose our freedom more than our financial benefit.”

Amen Mike!

Second, according to Rich Smith’s article at Daily Finance, the revenue lost from churches not being taxed is more than enough to finance NASA and a manned mission to Mars. There is between $300 billion and $500 billion dollars of church property that is not being taxed, and this results in a revenue loss of $7.5 billion annually. Also, there is $46 billion dollars not being made from tithes and offerings churches receive. If you add to this the tax exemptions for parsonages and other church related deductions, this gives us a total estimated to be $71 billion dollars a year.

“In other words, enough money to pay for 28.4 “Curiosity” missions to Mars annually.”

Live long and prosper Rich!

FYI: NASA’s budget for FY 2014 is only $17.7 billion.

If Huckabee doesn’t get his way, we can always throw our support to Mars One. They plan to establish a permanent human settlement on Mars by 2023. Oh, and their taking applications.

Brother Richard

 

  • Reginald Selkirk

    I’m all for sending Huckabee to Mars.

    • BroRichard

      You win Reginald! I was waiting for someone to say that.

    • Patrick James Bayham

      no…we are leaving for mars..these idiot xtians can stay …400ppm..remember.?

  • baal

    Wow, I agree fully as well. I’ll expect him to back track shortly. It’s a corollary of the principles quantum that I cannot hold the same beliefs of folks like Huckabee and vice versa.

    • BroRichard

      baal, I’m sure if personalities (and religious views) were put aside, you would find that you and Huckabee agree more than you might wish. This is the case for most Americans.

  • thompjs

    They are probably really gunning for getting to say what they want — to say what they want and be tax free. They will just turn into tax free political think tanks or something like that.

    • BroRichard

      thompjs, I have no problem with that. I am for more freedom. However, with the laws changed, there would be open records and accountability. As it sits now, churches do not have to keep open books as do other nonprofits.

      • thompjs

        Richard, I think you are very naive. What they are gunning for is to turn their churches into tax free political as well as religious organizations.

        Another poster above talks about how they will just create loopholes that make it look they are taxed.

        Of course I’m not a prophet and you may be right.

        • BroRichard

          I appreciate your opinion thompjs. I assure you this is something I have studied for quite some time. As a former minister, I worked with nonprofit churches, and as an atheist, I have worked with nonreligious nonprofits. The different standards for the two are astronomical. Again, I am for more freedom, and open records.

  • Frank Key

    Yeah, at first glance it would appear to be a windfall for local and federal governments if churches were required to pay taxes. However, a more realistic appraisal would probably see the minority wealthy churches applying the same tax dodging tactics that corporations currently do on their income and receive all kinds of special exemptions or low assessments from local governments to keep their property taxes at a minimum.
    The majority of churches are not wealthy and barely break even with their current status with income that often varies wildly from month to month. Without much manipulation at all, they could honestly report a net zero or negative income tax and many would struggle to pay minimal property taxes.
    The unfortunate net result would be the big churches get bigger; the small ones fade away and the governments receive less than expected revenues.

    (Opinion based on being privy to the financial records of several churches when still a Christian active in church leadership).

    • John

      Pastor at a small church here: I agree with Huckabee’s line of thought; however, we would probably not survive if we weren’t except of those taxes. I’d imagine a lot of small churches (which most churches in America are) are in the same boat.

      • BroRichard

        Thanks for the comments John. I understand what you are saying, however, I wonder how many donations would actually be lost? I can see how it might be a problem for large donors.

      • Thin-ice

        John, speaking as an ex-missionary and theology grad, you need to look again at the NT definition of a church. It’s an organic gathering of like-minded believers. An “ecclesia” can meet together in middle of a pasture. If the existence of your “church” depends on a tax-exemption, it’s not a New Testament church, period.

    • BroRichard

      Frank, yes the article I linked in the piece referred to much of that. Either way, I am for equality across the board for all nonprofits.


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