‘Nuff Said Award Winner:Vorjack

In this thread at Unreasonable Faith, a poster starts a discussion by talking about how he left his life in porn to become a Christian.  When confronted with the idea that everything he says he learned about God in the Bible came from human beings, the convert from the porn world in reply claimed that he didn’t learn of God from human beings but instead: I learn more about “the existence and nature of the divine” by spending time alone in contemplation, especially when outdoors marveling at His amazing creation.

In reply, Vorjack writes:

Are you, the observer, something other than human? Did you not read the last half of my post?

A Hindu sage from a non-dualist, pantheistic tradition will observe, meditate and experience the universe, and the come to the conclusion that Vishnu has made itself totally one with the universe. A Hindu sage from a non-dualistic, panENtheistic tradition will do the same things and come to the conclusion that Shiva is one with the universe, but not exhausted in the process, remaining something more than the universe. A Hindu sage from the Dvaita dualist tradition with go through the process, and come to the conclusion that Vishnu is completely apart from the universe.

Do you not see how one’s tradition shapes how one interprets one’s experience? Let me put it this way, Francis Collins supposedly had a religious moment when he saw a frozen waterfall whose three-part structure reminded him of the trinity. If it had been a two-part structure, do you really think he would have become Zoroastrian?

‘Nuff Said.

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