Conservapedia: Pat Tillman “Could Not Have Been An Atheist”

In this interesting piece on the eye opening extent to which American atheists on Atheist Nexus report fearing social consequences if they were to come out as atheists, Lauri Lebo points us to this Conservapedia article takes stupefyingly ignorant prejudice against atheists down to a level I’ve never seen before:

As a teen, Pat kept a journal. The writings in it would be a trophy for atheism. “I consider myself an atheist, however, in the back of my mind, I wonder if there is something greater.” At age sixteen, most people don’t know enough about life to make a profound decision such as that, a young mind still growing. If you look where he was at the time and how he ended up, it is a certainty that he was never an atheist. At age 17, he was arrested for assault and spent 30 days in jail. There is no doubt, his life would change for the better. He left behind all that was wrong (atheism) and he strove to be the best at whatever he did. He became a college football sensation. Tillman was a team player, he had moxy, he had determination to be the best. At his funeral, Chad Schwartz paid Pat homage “morals that could not be compromised,” and “he wanted to be an inspiration. He wanted to change people and he wanted to change his country for the better.” Does that sound like an atheist to you?

Uhhh, yes?

It is true that he was not married in a Church, only an atheist would use that to their advantage.  All the talk that Pat said the ‘Iraq war was illegal’, is hard to believe he truly felt that way. You’ve heard the old saying ‘There are no atheists in foxholes’, I believe that and I believe that Pat had issues under the stress of war.

Wow.

Pat had married right before he volunteered. His wife spoke of a man that did not have an ego. Pat had accumulated award after award, trophy after trophy playing college ball. His wife would say the only thing on Pat’s mantle was a hand drawn U.S. flag. This is somebody who would turn against his country? How many atheist do you know would sacrifice their life for their country? For others? Selfless is not an atheist quality.

Everybody that paid Pat homage spoke of an incredible man, his courage, his bravery. Pat’s brother-in-law would say, “take great notice of his daily pursuit to become a better person. But more importantly, his utter pride, devotion, and love for Marie, his family, and his friends.” Show me another atheist with the same convictions.

Smith would write ‘But it was his character and his convictions that added countless inches to his unassuming stature.’ Atheism has but one conviction, the daily fight to remove God from their own lives and others’ lives. That is not the Pat Tillman America produced. He is a hero, not a leftwing zero.

It’s just staggering.

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  • http://sendaianonymous.wordpress.com sendaianonymous

    I refuse to believe this is for real, if only because this is precisely the sort of thing I would write while trolling fundamentalist forums.

    Just. No.

    • Daniel Fincke

      It could be a poe, but I have a hard time imagining someone tying in a war hero’s atheism with his assault arrest as a teenager as a joke, it’s so so so indecent.

  • Jude

    Wow. I had no problem thinking the article was real, as it is full of the desperate avoidance of uncomfortable thinking that one would expect to find on such a site. And if real, it demonstrates deep unreason in considering simple facts, and manifests all sorts of stupid non-sequiturs about atheists and morality. But you can also see how Tillman is now no longer Tillman but an icon, someone whose identity is mainly a projection of those who feel a need to pour continuing adulation on him, and who seem to receive some psychic benefit from sculpting him in their own image.

    Having said all that, I’m curious, sendaianonymous, about your claims about trolling. I’ve always wondered what motivates it, what goes through the mind of those who deliberately troll websites–can you describe your practice of this? I’m not being critical, I’m just curious about the practice, never having considered it myself and finding no real impulse to do it. So I’d like to hear about what it’s like to do it from someone who does.

  • Clint

    It’s from Conservapedia so I’m not surprised.

  • Gary

    If you are interested in Pat Tillman’s story you should check this out:


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