Ophelia wrote an insightful, controversial paragraph:
Churches don’t do education. Religion doesn’t do education. Churches and religion do religion, which is different from education. Education is what schools do. It is fundamentally secular – it is about the world, and exploring and learning about the world. Like newspapers, like forensics, like medicine, like so many human institutions, it is supposed to get things right. It is supposed to teach what is true, not what is false. Churches and religions are not. That is the fundamental radical difference between them. A secular approach to education is the only legitimate approach there is. A god-inflected approach is not education properly understood.
In reply Scote cited a dictionary definition:
“Education is what schools do. It is fundamentally secular”
No, that just isn’t true.
education |ˌejəˈkā sh ən|
the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction,
While I wish the word education entailed the qualities you described, it does not.
And when challenged, appealed to the Oxford American Dictionary to say that while Ophelia was correct in her idea of what education should be she should not have implied that it already is limited to secular understanding:
Definition of EDUCATION
a : the action or process of educating or of being educated; also : a stage of such a process b : the knowledge and development resulting from an educational process [a person of little education]
: the field of study that deals mainly with methods of teaching and learning in schools”
There is nothing in the common usage of the word education that limits it to secular education.
I fully support Ophelia’s position on education, I just think that trying to make an fallacious argument by definition is a not a good idea.
I fully agree with your sentiments that religion shouldn’t be anywhere near public education, but it is false to claim that the concept of education is fundamentally secular. A fact-based education or some such, certainly, but not merely an education. You have omitted a qualifier.
I will repeat what I said at Ophelia’s site in reply:
Ophelia’s definition treats the meaning of education in normative terms, i.e., in terms of what it ideally should be, not in terms of loose description of everything ever called by it. Part of debate about values, which this is, means fighting for the best normative interpretations of terms. She is arguing for a definition because she is arguing for an ideal and a norm. If you want to challenge her, challenge the norm she is proposing for education, not whether she acknowledged that when used descriptively the word accommodates all instances of instruction more broadly.
Think of it like with the word “morality”. Moralities descriptively include some deeply immoral codes accepted by various communities, religions, and individuals. Nonetheless, we can use the word “moral” in a normative way that contradicts truly immoral “moral codes’” claims to the word as ideally used (even if descriptively, they count).
In reply to me Scote wrote:
Ophelia is free to argue that an education *should* be secular, and that that *should* be the normative use of the term, but she didn’t. Instead she claimed that to already be the case. Confusing “ought to be” for “is”, as we can see by her own words: “[Education] is fundamentally secular.” IMO.
“Moralities descriptively include some deeply immoral codes accepted by various communities, religions, and individuals. Nonetheless, we can use the word “moral” in a normative way”
Because there is no universally agreed upon morality when you say something is “moral” you are always begging the question. If you were to say something like “morality is fundamentally secular” you would be making a claim just as unfounded as “education is fundamentally secular”. You can say “normative” all you want but I think you’d still be wrong if you assume your premises.
What I said in reply to that was that I’m not assuming my premises. I justify them rationally in other contexts. I am making a rational judgment. Female genital mutilation is immoral. When I say that, I don’t need to qualify that SOME people think it’s morally good and necessary. They are wrong. I don’t need to pretend this is a relative issue. They are damaging a fundamental functionality and good for women with no compensating benefit. They are hurting human flourishing and oppressing women. I don’t care if they think that’s moral. It’s not. And I don’t have to bend over backwards to accommodate false opinions in morality more than I have to in any other circumstance.
This is not to say that on some issues cultures can’t differ and have contrary but equally justifiable moral positions which do work to create human flourishing in both cultures just through different ways. There can be some moral disagreements where both are right in their own cultural contexts. But not every situation is like that. Female genital mutilation serves no compensating good worth the harm it causes.
Similarly, Ophelia is making the case that education that makes no reference to false “supernatural” beings (i.e., secular education) is the only kind that is true education in a world where all there are are non-supernatural (i.e., natural) beings.
There is not an illicit “is/ought” elision by Ophelia. When you define a moral term you incorporate “oughts” into it. Defining courage normatively, for example, is not just describing fearless behavior but also incorporating a norm that one is courageous in ways that are morally admirable. One might say that a fearless seriel killer is not courageous if one is making a normative argument about how we should use a term, like courage, which has intrinsically honorific connotations. Because of the honorific connotations that attach to the word, it is completely legitimate that one argue it should be properly defined and used only to apply to fearless behavior which is sufficiently worthy of honor.
The same goes for “education”. It has the connotation of improving people and giving them genuine knowledge. If faith-based institutions systematically inculcate falsehoods and reinforce prejudices and fallacious patterns of thinking (which they characteristically do), then at least to that extent they are not worthy of the word “education” with its connotations of honorably improving people’s knowledge and skills.
Mere “systematic instruction” which misleads people about the truth is properly, normatively called “miseducation”. According to Oxford, to miseducate means to “educate, teach, or inform (someone) wrongly”. Wrong teaching, wrong information, and putative education is miseducation. The word wrong is, correctly, in this definition because norms sometimes belong in definitions. Ophelia was correct, in symmetrical fashion, to define education in terms of rightly instructing.
Examples of normative definition arguments about love, knowledge, marriage, faith, atheism, and agnosticism here on Camels With Hammers: