Support Laci Green’s "Clit-ical Thinking"

A happy update: Laci has prevailed and has a great follow up post defending sex education online.
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I consider Laci Green one of the ten best atheist YouTube video makers on the internet. Her video “Why Atheists Care About Your Religion” is something of an atheist YouTube classic. That it got her temporarily suspended from YouTube, due to complaints of censorious Christians, only adds to its mystique.

In the last couple years her videos have focused on desperately needed frank, fun, affirmative sex education for young people. Yesterday she talked about the clitoris, in the video I’ve embedded above, and her video got flagged as inappropriate for people under 18. Here is her complaint from her Facebook page:

To those who flagged my latest video: Fuck you. Keeping information a secret never helped ANYONE. You are only hurting those you are trying to “protect”. The idea that discussing female anatomy & pleasure is something “18+” is nothing short of oppressive…ESPECIALLY since none of my videos addressing male anatomy & pleasure ever get flagged. Pleasure is for everybody. Yes, even teens. Get over it.

I am in the appeals process & will be hosting it on my website so ANYONE can see it. Even *GASP* minors! Yeah. Suck my clit, douchebags.

Her anger is righteous. Sex is not dirty, it’s not shameful, and it’s not something teenagers should be kept ignorant about. Young people All people deserve to have as much good scientifically-based information, and humanism-based values discussion, about their bodies and about sex as possible. They deserve as much education in how to achieve and to give as much mutually gratifying pleasure and interpersonal satisfaction as possible in their consensual sexual encounters—and even from their masturbation. If you’re the parent of a teenager, male or female, with whom you feel squeamish talking about sex, I suggest you pass on this blog post with her video on the clitoris and also link them to Laci’s whole YouTube channel and her blog.

Your Thoughts?

About Daniel Fincke

Dr. Daniel Fincke  has his PhD in philosophy from Fordham University and spent 11 years teaching in college classrooms. He wrote his dissertation on Ethics and the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. On Camels With Hammers, the careful philosophy blog he writes for a popular audience, Dan argues for atheism and develops a humanistic ethical theory he calls “Empowerment Ethics”. Dan also teaches affordable, non-matriculated, video-conferencing philosophy classes on ethics, Nietzsche, historical philosophy, and philosophy for atheists that anyone around the world can sign up for. (You can learn more about Dan’s online classes here.) Dan is an APPA  (American Philosophical Practitioners Association) certified philosophical counselor who offers philosophical advice services to help people work through the philosophical aspects of their practical problems or to work out their views on philosophical issues. (You can read examples of Dan’s advice here.) Through his blogging, his online teaching, and his philosophical advice services each, Dan specializes in helping people who have recently left a religious tradition work out their constructive answers to questions of ethics, metaphysics, the meaning of life, etc. as part of their process of radical worldview change.

  • articulett

    I think Laci Green is awesome. I wish she’d been around when I was a teenager. Actually, I wish I had been Laci Green.

    She’s a former Mormon, so she’s come a long, long way. I’ve been watching her atheist videos for some time. Count me as a fan.

  • http://offseasontv.blogspot.com BrianX

    For some reason she doesn’t have an article on RationalWiki, but I personally made sure she has an entry on the vlogroll page. Sex ed is an important part of skepticism.

  • Rawnaeris

    I sure wish I’d had this to look to when I was in High School.

    I was in college before I even found out women were capable of masturbating.

    Fuck you, Christianity, Fuck you.

  • http://www.shockandblog.com/ Jay McHue

    This is both incredibly boring — no new or unique information — and incredibly annoying with that voice! Ugh! She sounds like a flipping Chippette the way she says “clitoris” — all squeaky and high pitched and at a spoken speed of about 10 bazillion words per minute. “Clitorisclitorisclitorisclitorisclitorisclitoris!” It’s enough to make you chew your own foot off! She can masturbate all she wants because I doubt any man will want to hear her undoubtedly chipmunk-like squeals of ecstasy. Well, except maybe for a man with a chipmunk fetish. Brrr!

    • http://www.jafafahots.com Jafafa Hots

      No new and unique information? That must be why it was banned – all those people thinking “what the hell? I already taught my kids this, waste of time!”

      Boring? Yeah, that was the whole purpose of that video, to entertain you. Not inform, because as you said, no new information – teens already know all about sex.

      Voice? You’re darn right. She should stop having that voice. Ruins the whole non-entertaining, non-message, that voice. Why on earth did she choose to have THAT voice?

      Idiot.

    • http://www.jafafahots.com Jafafa Hots

      Oh and the “I doubt any man…”
      Yeah, that’s the purpose of the human voice in young females, to make men want to fuck them. And clearly that was her aim too, to make men want to fuck her. I bet she’s disappointed you’re too turned off. It might even turn her lesbian.

      Idiot.

    • nunuvyurbiznez

      Why do you keep signing your posts as “Idiot?”

    • http://www.jafafahots.com Jafafa Hots

      I know it sounds strange, but I’ve found that doing that attracts replies from shitheads.

      Idiot.

    • http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers Daniel Fincke

      She’s not making videos for you. She’s not presenting new research for academics but basic sex education for young people.

      And I’m sure she has more sexual offers than she’ll ever need, just as she is. You can rest your worried little head.

    • http://www.shockandblog.com/ Jay McHue

      “And I’m sure she has more sexual offers than she’ll ever need”

      From obsessed atheist stalkers, yes. You guys can be uber creepy when you find out there’s a good looking atheist woman around. Case in point: Elevatorgate.

    • janine

      Are you seriously using a raging debate among atheist and skeptics about sexism in these overlapping communities as proof that atheist men are creepy stalkers. You do not understand that charge you just lobbed.

      Go back to playing your Left Behind game.

    • http://www.jafafahots.com Jafafa Hots

      Actually it’s worse. He’s using a raging debate about sexism to deflect from the fact that his comment was summed up by judging her based on whether “any man” would want to have sex with her. And then accused the people who pointed out his objectification of being “creepy” in the way he just was.

      It was quite acrobatic. I dunno the name for sure, but it’s something like a triple lutz scumbag he just pulled off there.

    • StevoR

      @ nunuvyurbiznez / Jay McHue / Jinx McHue :

      I disagree. Your Milage May Vary but I found Laci Green’s clitoris clip interesting, fun and matter-of-fact and was entertained by and enjoyed it.

      Also she was not, in my view an unusually fast talker. Fast-ish in pace maybe but clear and well eununciated. Since I’m semi-deaf this was one of many things I appreciated about it.

      Oh, & you *do* know that if you missed a bit (having trouble keeping up with her were you Jay?) you can drag the little white circle on the red line that appears when you hold the cursor over it and watch it again as many times as it takes you to get it don’t you?

      “Clitorisclitorisclitorisclitorisclitorisclitoris!” It’s enough to make you chew your own foot off!

      So, don’t watch it then? Of course if you’re not going to watch it you’re not really qualified to comment on it either. Guess you’re either missing a foot now or a liar. Possibly both.

      She can masturbate all she wants because I doubt any man will want to hear her undoubtedly chipmunk-like squeals of ecstasy.

      This man raises his hand and say he’d definitely like to bring Laci Green to orgasm – if she so happens to desire that from me of course. (I shouldn’t have to say that last axiomatic bit but I will.) I think she’s wonderfully cute and would love to hear – and feel – how she sounds climaxing. (no chipmunk fetish here either btw.) I also admire her intelligence, her honesty and her courage in putting that online.

      Oh & yes Laci *can* happily masturbate all she wants as well. Does that shit you Jay? Do you want to control Laci Green’s sex life for her & tell her what she can and can’t do with her own body?

      Well tough you can’t. Deal with it.

      Deal with your own apparent sexual issues too.

    • reynoldhall

      I don’t believe it. Jinx McHue is finally back. Is that really you? Your “shock and blog” link sure makes it look like you…

      Another xian fundy. Unlike Laci, Jinx/John/”the laughing man” DOES have an article on Rational Wiki.

      Nothing to see here, just another xian fundy who himself is rude, but won’t allow others to post on his blogs.

  • julian

    I’ve been away from youtube for a while but I might check out her vids and pass them forward. Not sure I’m a target demographic though as I know next to no young kids.

    • Sas

      You can never be too sure who needs this info, regardless of age. I say this as someone who recently had to explain to her 70-year-old mother what a clitoris is.

  • baal

    WOW!

    Thanks Daniel. I don’t think I would have found her on my own and she does a great job on staying informative and sex positive. I’ll be directing my son to watch her in a few years.

  • http://giliellthinkingaloud.blogspot.com/ Giliell, not to be confused with The Borg

    Am I the only person who gets suspicious when people go out of their way to elaborate in detail how boring, uninformative, unattractive and alltogether not worth mentioning they find something and somebody?

    Love to Laci and all those areas she mentions

  • StevoR

    BTW. folks, Jay McHue has been posting nastily about Laci Green’s clitoris video as “nunuvyurbiznez” on the FTB Pharnygula and was formerly a dungeoned troll on the old sciblogs Pharyngula site. A good comment here :

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/15/a-fabulous-strategy-for-annoying-fundagelicals-and-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-245098

    by ambulocetacean (# 87. 16 January 2012 at 1:21 am) gives more background on him – a homophobic, squicky, godbot apparently.

    More power to Laci Green!

  • http://lacigreen.tv Laci Green

    Hey Daniel (and other commenters)!

    It’s Laci. I wanted to send you a bigbig thanks for your post! I really appreciate the support. *hug*

    • http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers Daniel Fincke

      Thanks Laci! It’s a pleasure to have you stop by. I’m a long time fan who keeps up regularly with your work. If you ever need help getting a message out, don’t hesitate to contact me.

  • plutosdad

    I actually think it’s important for boys to know. Way too many boys have no idea what girls want, and too many might assume girls want what is in porn. (And perhaps girls don’t know what boys want either.)

    I think I first learned from Dr Ruth. That was the first time I ever heard maybe they don’t want what I want.

    I don’t think of it as “training to have sex” nearly as much as “training to care about other people’s wants and needs”

    I had sex ed in school but they didn’t talk about what people like, it was more about how to keep from getting STDs and pregnant. But that’s a lot more than many kids get.


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