Evangelical Heaven

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Comparing Humanism and Religion and Exploring Their Relationships to Each Other
A Moral Philosopher on The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson
“The History of Philosophy” and “Philosophy and Suicide”
Before I Deconverted: Christmas Became A Christian Holiday To Me
About Daniel Fincke

Dr. Daniel Fincke  has his PhD in philosophy from Fordham University and spent 11 years teaching in college classrooms. He wrote his dissertation on Ethics and the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. On Camels With Hammers, the careful philosophy blog he writes for a popular audience, Dan argues for atheism and develops a humanistic ethical theory he calls “Empowerment Ethics”. Dan also teaches affordable, non-matriculated, video-conferencing philosophy classes on ethics, Nietzsche, historical philosophy, and philosophy for atheists that anyone around the world can sign up for. (You can learn more about Dan’s online classes here.) Dan is an APPA  (American Philosophical Practitioners Association) certified philosophical counselor who offers philosophical advice services to help people work through the philosophical aspects of their practical problems or to work out their views on philosophical issues. (You can read examples of Dan’s advice here.) Through his blogging, his online teaching, and his philosophical advice services each, Dan specializes in helping people who have recently left a religious tradition work out their constructive answers to questions of ethics, metaphysics, the meaning of life, etc. as part of their process of radical worldview change.

  • http://www.reason-being.com reasonbeing

    Personally…I like the top one much better. It quite simply shows the lack of logic behind Christian homophobia. There really is no logical argument to refute it and still maintain a fundamentalist point of view…

    • Lamont

      Personally… It quite simply shows the lack of a moral standard behind homosexuality. They really have no standard of morality to refute Christianity and still maintain their worldview.

  • Abdul Alhazred

    It misses the real (even more horrible) point about the Christian doctrine of salvation.

    Nobody goes to Hell for “being gay” or any other individual sin. It’s original sin that damns us.

    In short, the cosmic blood feud.

    Adolf Hitler and my Jewish grandmother in the same place and for the same reason. They didn’t believe in Jesus.

    Yeah OK, I’m making an assumption about Hitler.

    • Lamont

      No, the go to hell because the are sinners.

    • Lamont

      “Nobody goes to Hell for “being gay” or any other individual sin. It’s original sin that damns us.”

      No, you are accountable for all of your sins. Hitler will face a greater judgment then the “Jewish grandmother” who rejects God’s gracious gift and offer of forgiveness. Read the book Romans, it explains all of that. All men fell in Adam therefore all are sinners. We inherited a “sinful nature” from Adam.
      We are born in sin.

  • jerthebarbarian

    reasonbeing @1 -

    There really is no logical argument to refute it and still maintain a fundamentalist point of view…

    Sure there is. I’ve had this argument with fundamentalists before. The answer is to fall back to Calvin (or Calvin-like arguments). God does not actually love everyone – when the Bible mentions God’s love it means love for the Elect. Everyone else can go to Hell as far as God is concerned.

    It’s really the only way to resolve Epicurus’s riddle. To come up with a decent answer to Epicurus you have to jetison one of omnipotence, omniscience or omnibenevolence. Jeitsoning the last is the easiest to reconcile with the Bible, since the God of the Bible is very clearly NOT all-loving if you take a strict reading of the text.

    There are plenty of Christians in this country whose only problem with that image is the idea of Jesus saying he loves the gay person. Clearly if God loved that person he’d be one of the Elect, and if he were one of the Elect, then God wouldn’t have made him gay.

  • Lori

    The bible and the preaching is all so circular — it’s no wonder the religious are crazy. Trying to think your way out of that tangle while everyone around you keeps interrupting has to be tough. My admiration for those that managed it goes up everyday.

    As far as the cartoons go, god’s an asshole, nothing changed there.