Learn Cosmology From A Cosmologist, Not An Apologist

Counter Apologist points to this interview by SkyDivePhil with the renowned cosmologist Sir Roger Penrose talking about Conformal Cyclic Cosmology.

The hardly any of the interview addresses religious apologetics, at the 20:05 mark he is asked about William Lane Craig’s interpretation of the meaning of CCC and Penrose explains how Craig misunderstands it.

Counter-Apologist explains the takeaway for analyses of Craig’s Kalam Cosmological Argument.:

The point isn’t that the CCC is probably true, therefore the Kalam is false. We don’t yet know if the CCC is completely accurate. There are competing models by other cosmologists that very well could be correct.

The point is that apologists are so very quick to assert that the entire material universe must have had a beginning in order to try and drill out a god shaped hole to stick Yahweh in. The problem for apologists is that there’s no evidence that all of material reality must have had a beginning. What we have is simply an unknown in our current understanding, with numerous competing theoretical models that could explain the data we have.

Right now the best apologists can do is try to read their preferred metaphysical positions into the Big Bang and make arguments from those assumptions, but it’s nothing more than that.

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Dr. Daniel Fincke  has his PhD in philosophy from Fordham University and spent 11 years teaching in college classrooms. He wrote his dissertation on Ethics and the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. On Camels With Hammers, the careful philosophy blog he writes for a popular audience, Dan argues for atheism and develops a humanistic ethical theory he calls “Empowerment Ethics”. Dan also teaches affordable, non-matriculated, video-conferencing philosophy classes on ethics, Nietzsche, historical philosophy, and philosophy for atheists that anyone around the world can sign up for. (You can learn more about Dan’s online classes here.) Dan is an APPA  (American Philosophical Practitioners Association) certified philosophical counselor who offers philosophical advice services to help people work through the philosophical aspects of their practical problems or to work out their views on philosophical issues. (You can read examples of Dan’s advice here.) Through his blogging, his online teaching, and his philosophical advice services each, Dan specializes in helping people who have recently left a religious tradition work out their constructive answers to questions of ethics, metaphysics, the meaning of life, etc. as part of their process of radical worldview change.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined Bob Seidensticker

    Brilliant!

  • Little_Magpie

    Dan, thanks for posting this.. not for the brief comment on WLC but for the whole thing.. fascinating. I <3 cosmology, so.


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