When Jack Abramoff was in business, Ralph Reed was one of his main partners. Abramoff would funnel money from gambling interests, especially Native American tribes that owned casinos, to Reed, who would then use it to build up opposition to new casinos that might cut into their profits. And Reed has claimed that he was never paid out of gambling profits:
Reed told Colmes that when he worked with Abramoff, he made it clear that he would not accept any payment that derived from gambling revenues and that Abramoff arranged to have him paid from non-gambling revenues.
Abramoff later told Colmes that’s a lie:
Colmes: Does that accurately represent what happened?
Abramoff: No. Not at all.
Colmes: In what way?
Abramoff: It’s ridiculous. I mean, even the tribes that had other business, 99% of their revenue came from gaming. But a lot of those tribes had nothing but gaming.
Colmes: So, in other words, Ralph Reed was saying “hey, I’ll work with you but I don’t want to be paid with gambling money, I’m too clean for that.” But are you saying that conversation never happened?
Abramoff: No. Never happened. Ralph didn’t want it out that he was getting gambling money and, frankly, that was his choice and I think it was a big mistake.
I’m shocked. Aren’t you shocked?