Jesse Galef on CNN

I hate Jesse Galef. He’s way too young and good looking and talented and he’s making me look bad. But he’s a terrific spokesman for the Secular Student Alliance and for the secular community in general. Here he is on CNN discussing younger people becoming increasingly non-religious with a clearly clueless interviewer using the “some people say (insert something idiotic and crazy)” technique.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1520169291 carolineborduin

    Mr. Galeb did a terrific job. Couldn’t that woman interviewing him tried to be more of a condescending concern troll?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1520169291 carolineborduin

    f not b

  • TX_secular

    He did a great job, especially with the interviewer repeatedly trying to argue that SSA is using indoctrination on young people. She was also rather dense when trying to argue that non-belief was a phase; after all, no one is really a committed atheist. Well done Jesse!

  • dannorth

    Not knowing the interviewer it’s hard to tell if her questions reflect her views or the objections the aforementionned “some people” might have, though the comment about doubt being a phase makes me lean toward the former.

    That said Mr Galef did a nice job answering these objections to the SSA. Maybe he was even a little to nice because he must have been mightily tempted to answer to the question about the SSA doing indoctrination at an age where kids are more receptive that aren’t the religious groups all about indoctrination to the young themselves.

    I guess what they ressent is the competition.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ZenoFerox Zeno

    What’s in the middle of the word “indoctrination”? Doctrine. That’s what most children get their entire lives. Religious people feel entitled to indoctrinate others. When a person shakes off the constant bombardment of religious propaganda, it is the opposite of indoctrination. That’s where the expression free-thinker came from. The fully indoctrinated interviewer appears not to know that, and is too programmed to recognize that her responses are conditioned reflexes.

  • leni

    I’m glad she asked stupid questions. I’m sure that’s exactly the sort of thing most Americans think, so better to just go ahead and address it.

  • frankniddy

    He did a great job, considering the questions he had to answer. The only way he could have had a worse interviewer is if he had gone on Fox News.

  • raven

    She was also rather dense when trying to argue that non-belief was a phase; after all, no one is really a committed atheist.

    The interviewer is either ignorant or lying as well.

    The big religous trend in the 20th century was the rise of atheism.

    It went from near zero in 1900 to around a billion Nones at the end of a century. If Nones were a religion, they would be the third largest.

    That trend seems set to continue. According to the NCC, 1.5 million people left the churches last year. Given the limitations of the data (sects cooking their data), the real number is probably more like 2 to 3 million.

  • http://rationaldreaming.com tacitus

    You know, I don’t think that the interviewer was all that bad. She didn’t ask the most penetrating of questions, but I think it is a reporter’s job to challenge the views and opinions of their guests, and I thought that Jesse did a great job in answering the questions.

    Now, if reporters would be as diligent in asking similarly challenging questions of the religious people they invite on the show, that *would* be a major improvement.

    There was just one point Jesse could have rebutted better — the one about young people finding religion when they get older. Surveys over the last 50 years clearly and unequivocally show that this does not happen. If 68% of millennials are non-religious in their 20s, around 68% of them will still be non-religious when they’re in their 70s.

    The sooner people realize that these “doubters” are here to stay, the better it will be for everyone (not that the religious right will realize it!).

  • http://spaninquis.wordpress.com/ Spanish Inquisitor

    Indoctrination of High School students? Christians start at birth. If only they’d wait until high school, allowing the playing field to be level, we’d have a lot more atheists, and far less theists.

    And what’s with the stained glass windows behind the interviewer?

  • drizzt

    I didn’t like her attitude at all. She almost accused him with every question. I didn’t like his answers, he could could’ve counterattacked at any time, but then… time is limited and he didn’t know how much time he’d have, nor the questions asked. No wonder “cdesign proponentsists” and company can get their message across : God did it!!!!! is the only answer they need… now that’s fast and to the point…

  • drizzt

    The indoctrination part was the worse for me… So NO religion is bad, but some dose of Christ is good ? WTF ? I’d like to see her defend a muslim school defending their students can (not should) say «bla bla bla and Mohamed is his prophet» or whatever they use, with the same zeal she seems to be defending the Christian education.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1360322113 aaronbaker

    Yes, there’s always a rank whiff of hypocrisy in any Christian complaint about indoctrination.

    That said, is his organization’s outreach to young people objectionable? For me it would depend on the details. Offering support to unbelievers who are ostracized and marginalized seems just fine to me–as does offering young people in general the tools for critical analysis of ALL their assumptions. I have to admit that proselytizing specifically for atheism makes me uncomfortable–a little too like religious hectoring in that you’re trying to push young people toward a specific end, regardless of where they may wish to go. If that’s an acceptable practice, however (I mean advocating for Christianity or Islam to high school students), then there’s no principled objection to letting atheists do the same.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Zeno @ # 5: When a person shakes off the constant bombardment of religious propaganda, it is the opposite of indoctrination.

    Should we call that “dedoctrination” or “exdoctrination”?