FBI Agent Saw Angels. Really, She Did.

Leave it to the Worldnutdaily to push the absurd story of an FBI spokesperson who says in a new book that she saw angels at one of the 9/11 crash sites. They were dressed like Roman centurions, for some weird reason. And she’s sure about this, ye of little faith.

A former police officer and FBI official who retired due to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder claims she saw angels when she first responded to the Pennsylvania crash of hijacked Flight 93 during the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

“The angels started appearing on the perimeter of the crash site,” Lillie Leonardi said in an interview with Pittsburgh television station WTAE.

“They were dressed as if they were in warrior garb like a Roman centurion, and there were so many of them, you couldn’t see their faces.”

And they did what, exactly? They apparently didn’t do anything to stop the crash, nor did they appear to anyone else. So maybe, just maybe this person is delusional?

In a video on her own website, she gives more details of what she saw at the crash site, explaining, “All of a sudden, I kept seeing this flicker of light. You saw all these angels manifest. One in particular, in front, that I knew, it was Michael. He knew I was there to do something. I just didn’t know what it was at that moment. He’s the conduit to God as far as I’m concerned. I’m then the conduit for other people to listen to what has to be said. And then it’s their choice to decide what to do.”

Okay. I choose to point and laugh at you.

When she initially arrived at the crash site, she told the Associated Press that “the biggest thing for me is that that there were no bodies.”

“I’m used to crime scenes but this one blew me out of the water. It just looked like the ground had swallowed up” the plane, she noted.

“That’s when I started seeing like shimmery lights … and it was kind of misty and that’s when I first saw, like, the angels there,” Leonardi said. “And I didn’t say anything to the guys because you can imagine if I would have said, ‘I just saw angels on the crash site,’ they’d have called the office and they’d have said, ‘She lost her mind and tell her to go home.’”

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  • Randomfactor

    I hope she’s getting treatment for her illness.

  • eric

    A former police officer and FBI official who retired due to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder claims she saw angels when she first responded to the Pennsylvania crash of hijacked Flight 93 during the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    Ya think the first part of that sentence and the second part might be related?

    That’s sort of like saying “guy who recently lost hearing claims to have heard a ringing noise during a Who concert.”

  • Trebuchet

    She doesn’t get it. They were MUSLIM angels, sent to escort the souls of the four hijackers up to their heavenly reward, 72 virgins and all that.

  • raven

    “The angels started appearing on the perimeter of the crash site,” Lillie Leonardi said in an interview with Pittsburgh television station WTAE.

    As Ed points out, these angels didn’t do anything. If they existed they could and should have prevented the plane from crashing in the first place!!!

    What’s the point of being magical creatures with supernatural powers if you don’t use them?

    Reminds me of a guy from high school. We knew he was in trouble when he kept complaining about being covered in blood and seeing blood everywhere.

    It cost his family tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills and psychiatric treatment to stabilize him.

  • http://peopleofpublictransport.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    Way to protect, angels.

  • d cwilson

    Call me cynical, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that there’s a book/DVD deal in the works to be sold at fundie gatherings everywhere.

  • http://killedbyfish.blogspot.com feralboy12

    Planes don’t just fall out of the sky and get swallowed up by the ground like that. Clearly the angels conspired to bring it down.

    Did the FBI agent get any blurry photos showing suspicious puffs of protoplasm or something?

  • dingojack

    Point and laugh a WhirledNutsDaily for their usual hyperventilating hypocritical hubris, not the woman who is suffering through PTSD they’re exploiting to make more money .

    Thanks

    Dingo

  • addiepray

    how doe she know they were angels and not humans sent from the future appearing in a transdimensional vortex?

  • dogeared, spotted and foxed

    Point and laugh a WhirledNutsDaily for their usual hyperventilating hypocritical hubris, not the woman who is suffering through PTSD they’re exploiting to make more money .

    Thanks

    Dingo

    Seconded. Whatever it takes to get this woman through the night until she can get the help she needs. It doesn’t matter if it’s ridiculous.

  • http://peopleofpublictransport.wordpress.com Zinc Avenger (Sarcasm Tags 3.0 Compliant)

    @addiepray, #9:

    When I open my transdimensional vortex tour service, that crash has to be one of the stops.

  • Randomfactor

    They were dressed like Roman centurions, for some weird reason.

    Kevin Smith’s “Dogma.”

  • wscott

    Correction: Leonardi was an FBI employee, but not an Agent. From her own website:

    From 1998 to 2010, Lillie Leonardi was employed by the FBI (Pittsburgh Division) as Community Affairs Coordinator.

    http://lillieleonardi.com/about/

    Don’t mean to nitpick, but I don’t want to give this poor deluded woman credentials/credibility she doesn’t deserve.

  • wscott

    @ Randomfactor: “Wings, now!”

  • Larry

    Angels, huh?

    Don’t blink. Blink and you’re dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don’t turn your back. Don’t look away. And don’t blink. Good Luck.

  • eric

    @5:

    Way to protect, angels.

    Dang it, that turn of phrase now has me thinking of Charlie’s Angels showing up at the crash site in centurion garb. :)

  • doktorzoom

    She thought that they were angels, but to her surprise, they climbed aboard a starship and headed for the skies.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    She thought that they were angels, but to her surprise, they climbed aboard a starship and headed for the skies.

    WIN! Give doktorzoom an internet, please.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    “All of a sudden, I kept seeing this flicker of light. You saw all these angels manifest…

    This is one of my grammar pet peeves, but I only bring it up here because it concerns the weight of the evidence. Leonardi (I above) saw light flicker. Fine. Next she says you saw angels. Spoken by Leonardi, ‘you’ should mean the readers. But the readers didn’t see anything; at least I (Selkirk) didn’t see anything. It is only Leonardi who saw anything.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    I find many of my thoughts already covered by other commenters.

    @d cwilson:

    Call me cynical, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that there’s a book/DVD deal in the works to be sold at fundie gatherings everywhere.

    A distinct possibility that shouldn’t be dismissed.

    Dingojack @8:

    Point and laugh a WhirledNutsDaily for their usual hyperventilating hypocritical hubris, not the woman who is suffering through PTSD they’re exploiting to make more money.

    Exactly. And it isn’t just Whirled Nuts. This is being covered widely by mainstream press, cable and broadcast news.

    dogeared… @10:

    Seconded. Whatever it takes to get this woman through the night until she can get the help she needs. It doesn’t matter if it’s ridiculous.

    Yes. If this isn’t a promotional scam, then it’s a symptom, and symptoms serve adaptive purposes. Lower-order defenses help us to keep functioning when our higher-level coping and defensive processes have failed.

    Some things strike us as funny and we can’t help it if they hit us that way, but I think it’s also a good idea think about what we’re laughing about and question whether ridicule is really consistent with our own ethical values. I plead guilty to this failing in areas outside mental health, but try to remind myself that what’s funny isn’t always right to laugh at.

    Personally, I’d be more comfortable simply blasting the press for covering this woman’s claim as if it’s newsworthy.

  • busterggi

    Clearly these angels were merely those assigned to Mons traveling while on furlough – Pennsylvania is way out of their jurisdiction.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Ed and his Horde of Winged Minions™ are having their usual fun jibing at WhirledNutDizzy here, but note that this pitiful hallucinator was first exploited by ABC News and other Very Serious People in the major media as well.

  • addiepray

    Larry @15- Nice

  • jimmiraybob

    Call me cynical, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that there’s a book/DVD deal in the works to be sold at fundie gatherings everywhere.

    I’ll see your cynical and raise.

    After the angels/fundie market starts sagging in a couple of years, look for the whole thing to be repackaged by inserting bigfoot/bigfeet (oddly enough dressed as Roman gladiator(s)) for “angles.” Then, a few years later…..Loch Ness Monster(s) (oddly enough dressed as Roman proconsul(s)). [optional Loch Ness monster(s) wearing saddle(s) to reinvigorate the fundie audience.]

    We’re talking potential lifetime contract with the Learning Channel.

  • billydee

    #19: That’s one of my pet peeves, too. There was a commercial a few years ago for a truly miraculous acne medication. The guy on the commercial said, “I put it on at night and in the morning you don’t have acne.”

    I once saw angels but they morphed into dancing hippos. Acid does things like that.

  • davidmc

    Larry @ 15 , dont your’re scarin me

    David, hiddng behind the furniture

  • adobo

    Hey wait a minute…

    Wasn’t there a cast rehearsal of ‘Medea’ in NY city the night before 9/11???

  • leni

    I immediately thought PTSD before I even read the article. As someone who’s suffered a very mild case of it (certainly nothing like what many of the Sept. 11 survivors and witnesses must have gone through), I really feel for the woman (assuming it’s not a scam).

    I’m just not comfortable with the pointing and laughing :/

    That said, she’s wrong. It’s Reapers that gather at disasters, not angels.

  • ebotebo

    Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds @ PZ’s house!!!!

  • busterggi

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Like_Me

    These reapers are more my taste.

  • gworroll

    Was the Pandorica stored there?

  • sezme

    “That’s when I started seeing like shimmery lights … and it was kind of misty …

    No, it was not misty at all. Weather-wise, it was a beautiful, clear day. She may be referring to the smoke at the site.

  • albertbakker

    Disregarding the religious and political interpretations, I can empathize with this woman to a certain extent with regard to what she claims to have seen. I know from experience how incredibly impressive and lucid it can be.

    I remember one time when I was in the army and we walked in full gear through the Ardennes. We drove all day to get there and I did not eat. The food that day was worse than usual: lukewarm shit, spoon of vomit optional. As the night progressed and everything strapped on to me turned into lead, my canteen empty and a piece of dry biscuit I found in one of the numerous pockets in my jacket has been squeezed for the last Joule my knees were about to snap. Then after climbing a particularly steep hill up and down three times, finding out each time this path really, really, really didn’t lead anywhere. It was a clear, faintly moonlit night. Beautiful sky.

    I suddenly heard a horse galloping, really loud. And squeaking, cracking and rattling wheels of a cart. I turned around and saw, I mean really clear and vivid a horse and cart with a Viking type figure out of the sky speeding toward me and before I could even drop my jaw riding right through me and then when I looked around I could even see the back of it for a short while.

    Not only did I see the pronounced muscularity of the black horse’s breast and the glimmering, dark eyes and hear it’s heavy breathing, but I could by figure of speech count the hairs. That close and that clear. When it ‘hit’ me I suddenly felt cold, like a breeze. The Viking figure looked angry, long grey beard waving in the wind and a steel helmet no horns as I remember, but all like the archetypal Viking. It was really, really, and I do mean really impressive and ‘real’ except of course it wasn’t. I asked some of the guys if they seen that. One was busy licking a wrapper, another sucking on an empty canteen and one laid on his back with his shoes beside him. Out. No one saw anything.

    What I saw wasn’t out there at all, it was in my brain. But it was just as clear, just as vivid and in every respect just as ‘real’ and ‘complete’ as it would have been if it were in fact real. That is if carts with horses would regularly come from the sky.

    I have no idea why this Viking thing. It certainly was not something that I was particularly interested in. I did maybe at that time see some Nordic mythology in a Mickey Mouse comic book once, but that’s about it.

    Later in the early morning I saw tanks and marching people in the tree tops, but this was much less vivid and seen as if through a haze. Out of focus and everything kind of merged with the waving tree tops. That is typically the product of exhaustion and something I am more familiar with.

    I never had such an experience again. Fortunately. But since in my case it was so evidently the product of circumstances and the imagery so far removed from my worldview that I never had any temptation to attach any special meaning to it, or make more of it than just my brain under severe endurance playing tricks on me. I have no idea what PTS in conjunction with other (extremely) stressful influences can do with your brain, but I know if it produces such imagery it can be really impressive, in fact so much so that it is imprinted on your memory and can even seem even more real than reality.

    Since this sort of imagery originates in the same brain that perceives it, it has almost no relation with what’s really out there in the world. So it cannot sec be refuted by pointing out all sorts of inconsistencies with it.

  • leni

    Wow albertbakker holy shit O.o I don’t really know what else to say. Wow.

    @ busterggi

    These reapers are more my taste.

    They’d also be more likely to wear centurion outfits. You may have a point.

  • Thorne

    I wouldn’t say that people are pointing and laughing so much at the woman, who was obviously having some sort of delusion, but at the idjits who are taking her seriously, accepting these phantasms as real, and using them to shore up their obviously fragile belief system.

    I honestly don’t even have a problem with her profiting from her ‘visions’. I just wish I had some way to profit from the suckers in this world.

    This way to the Egress!

  • dingojack

    Thorne – Oh well in that case:

    No wonder the xtian god is so piss-weak – too many centurions, not enough foot soldiers.

    :) Dingo

  • Thorne

    I doubt she could tell the difference between a centurion and a sesquiplicarius anyway.

  • dingojack

    Thorne – that kind of knowledge is mere impedimenta.

    :) Dingo

    ——

    PS: what of the lowly pades?

  • dingojack

    Pades? I meant of course, pedes.

    @@

    Dingo

  • Midnight Rambler

    I’m not willing to go through the site myself, but I’m curious if WND is simultaneously pushing the stories that flight 93 either didn’t exist or landed in Cleveland and its passengers traded to aliens by the NSA?

  • drizzt

    #17 DrZoom : “She thought that they were angels, but to her surprise, they climbed aboard a starship and headed for the skies.” What is the movie/series you’re refering to ? If it’s Star Trek, hit me on the head for my forgetfulness, and remind me what episode it is… If it’s not, then I’m at a loss. (and point me to the right direction)

    P.S. : OT, This woman needs a shrink, like ASAP, or else the nuts at WND will convince her the rapture is near and she’d better get good with god and die, before the suffering of the rapture comes, or whatever stupidity they believe in…

  • doktorzoom

    drizzt: Google is your friend!