Barton: Science Will Prove the Bible True

David Barton and Rick Green got all science-y on the Wallbuilders radio show last week. I’m sure you’ll be shocked to know that Barton is as dishonest and ignorant when discussing science as when he discusses history. And they said that eventually science will prove everything in the Bible true.

Barton: If God tells you to do it, I guarantee you at some point they will find scientific evidence on why that it is the right thing to do. It may be against the culture, it may not make any sense, who knows what, it doesn’t matter.

And we have learned, after years of doing this and seeing literally thousands of stories like this that, you know what, if it’s in the Bible, science is eventually going to show that that’s the right stuff and the right thing to do.

If God says it and it’s in the Scriptures, I don’t care if its homosexuality or marriage, I don’t care whether it’s economics or debt, I don’t care whether it’s education and studies; if God says to do it, it’s going to be the right thing to do and it will help me and benefit me.

Rick Green: And eventually it will be proven out. Whether it’s six months or six hundred years, at some point it’s going to get proven out.

When he says it will benefit him, I suspect he means financially as he continues to make money by selling lies to his credulous and ignorant followers.

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  • kantalope

    I do hope I’m a slave owner rather than a ….well not slave owner.

    And the earth will have corners. And the Sun will stop moving in the sky. And wearing mixed cloths will cause a rash. And not resting on SundayFridaySaturday will cause your spleen to shrivel up. Oh the things we will learn!

  • addiepray

    So David Barton doesn’t eat cheeseburgers, or bacon, or shellfish. Got it.

  • kantalope

    Of course no shellfish….shrimp (overcooked) are of the devil….devil, I say!

  • blf

    seeing literally thousands of stories

    Citation needed. If there are “thousands”, providing a verifiable citation shouldn’t be a problem…

  • lldayo

    I can’t wait to see the experiments done for the story of Noah. Flood a large body of water with living plants at the bottom and watch them survive for a year! I’m sure they’ll also come up with the mechanism used to shovel poop from millions of animals out of a boat everyday that can be worked by 8 people or less.

  • zoboz

    Case in point: When Jesus tell the Pharisees not to wash their hands before eating. Sure, we may foolishly think science supports the practice of good hygiene, but just wait 600 years! If we could somehow wake up in the distant future like Woody Allen’s Sleeper, we’d find that everything we thought we knew was totally wrong.

  • Anthony K

    If God says it and it’s in the Scriptures, I don’t care if its homosexuality or marriage, I don’t care whether it’s economics or debt, I don’t care whether it’s education and studies; if God says to do it, it’s going to be the right thing to do and it will help me and benefit me.

    Even quotes like this? Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”–Matthew 19:21

    David Barton: like all True Christians™, a shameless liar and a hater of Christ.

  • Larry

    I’ll be fascinated to learn how god created light on the first day while holding off on creating the sun to the fourth or how there could even be days and nights without the sun.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    Biblical economics, via DeLong:

    In the Bible, Joseph tells Pharaoh that the government should run very large surpluses during boom years and then spend and run very large deficits during bust years.

    Why do conservative Christians hate the bible?

  • Chiroptera

    …if it’s in the Bible, science is eventually going to show that that’s the right stuff and the right thing to do.

    Huh. So the sky is really a solid dome covering a flat earth? With windows in it through which the rain falls? Who knew? Oh, God knew. Duh!

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Um, hurray for slave-owning, theocratic monarchy?

    …whether it’s economics or debt…

    Hurray! They’re going ban charging interest! And they’re getting rid of inflation!

  • Abdul Alhazred

    So the sky is really a solid dome covering a flat earth?

    They’ve got an out for that one. They can take some of the later stuff (written after Jews learned about navigation).

    Make the earlier stuff figurative and the later stuff literal. A little selective quoting does wonders.

  • ccogan

    So, we should execute people for working on the Sunday? Including fundamentalist preachers?

  • caseloweraz

    Barton: “If God tells you to do it, I guarantee you at some point they will find scientific evidence on why that it is the right thing to do. It may be against the culture, it may not make any sense, who knows what, it doesn’t matter.”

    Sure. Just like science has proven that eating shrimp gives you gout, or wearing a shirt of mixed fabrics will burn your skin off. (That last was in a Medea report.)

    /snark

  • caseloweraz

    This just in: Army issues trumpets to all troops.

    Dateline: The Pentagon. An Army spokesman revealed today at a press conference that after years of top-secret research, all infantry troops will be issued trumpets if their mission is to take some walled compound The recently unclassified research showed that acoustic energy produced by the trumpets is far more powerful than previously understood, and can destroy masonry structures at a distance.

    The spokesman went on to say that DARPA is seeking grants for research on oboes and flutes.

  • Dave, ex-Kwisatz Haderach

    If God says it and it’s in the Scriptures

    You heard it folks. I assume Barton will be on the cutting edge of the research that shows putting striped sticks in front of sheep in heat causes them to have striped offspring.

  • zero6ix

    Soon we will discover the long atrophied vocal chords present in all serpents. And when that happens, we will rue the day we mocked such glorious truths.

  • eric

    If God says it and it’s in the Scriptures, I don’t care if its homosexuality or marriage, I don’t care whether it’s economics or debt, I don’t care whether it’s education and studies; if God says to do it, it’s going to be the right thing to do and it will help me and benefit me.

    Matthew 6:1: ““Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.”

    Please, please, please, Barton, take your own advice on this one.

  • eric

    If God says it and it’s in the Scriptures, I don’t care if its homosexuality or marriage, I don’t care whether it’s economics or debt, I don’t care whether it’s education and studies; if God says to do it, it’s going to be the right thing to do and it will help me and benefit me.

    My bold.

    Holy f**k what a selfish morality he’s got there. Ever think about doing the right thing even if it doesn’t benefit you, Barton?

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    And the earth will have corners.

    It already does. Haven’t you read TimeCube?

  • exdrone

    Larry @8:

    I’ll be fascinated to learn how god created light on the first day while holding off on creating the sun to the fourth

    God used a match to create light, but by the fourth day, it was burning down to his fingertips, so it had to turn on the sun.

  • DaveL

    He’s given himself an easy out:

    If God said it and it’s in the Scriptures”

    Sure, all these things are in his scriptures, but God didn’t say them, because he doesn’t exist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1360322113 aaronbaker

    “[I]t will be proven out.”

    I guess that’s Ignoramus for “It will prove to be true.” But if you read it as I prefer to, as an abbreviation of “it will be proven [bullshit and thrown] out,” it actually has a shot at being correct.

  • exdrone

    at some point they will find scientific evidence on why that it is the right thing … it may not make any sense, who knows what, it doesn’t matter. … If God says it and it’s in the Scriptures, … it will be proven out. Whether it’s six months or six hundred years, at some point it’s going to get proven out.

    It sounds like they stole some lines from Of Pandas and People.

  • Michael Heath

    Ed’s blog post title:

    Barton: Science Will Prove the Bible True

    David Barton seems to have missed the memo that the scientific community has already disproven much of the Bible. Far worse, he’s a key figure in promoting the abuse of children by seeking to deny them access to that same memo in their respective science and “science” (fundie-led) classes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    Well, so far, history has consistently proven him wrong. I don’t see how it would be any different with science.

  • https://www.facebook.com/robtish Rob Tisinai

    If you ask David Barton for proof he’ll provide it. But it’ll be on the order of: “The Bible mentions XXX. Archaeologists found XXX. Therefore Jesus!”

    They don’t realize this is akin to saying, “The Iliad mentions Troy. Archaelogists found Troy. Therefore Zeus!”

  • felidae

    So, Davey, when do we get to stone Newt Gingrich for adultery?

  • Levon Marcesant

    π = 3

  • kangxi

    So how’s this work… suddenly, in a blinding flash we all realise that we were wrong all along, and that bats are insects and crickets really do have four legs?

  • francesc

    After reading your comments, I can see why you don’t agree with Barton.

    You cheated! You have read the Bible! You were not supposed to.

  • Lofty

    Of course by “science will prove” they mean that the crapulent outpourings of the Dishonesty Institute will say something entirely unevidenced.

  • unemployedphilosopher

    @kangxi, #30:

    “Bats! The big bug scourge of the skies!”

    (I do love me some Calvin and Hobbes…)

  • dugglebogey

    “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

    What do your bank accounts look like, Mr. Barton?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=730511544 billdaniels

    27: A few years ago some fundies were wetting their pants because an archaeological team in Israel dug up a boat that could hold 13 people*. Jesus+12 apostles=13. therefore God.

    *I guess they figured that all of the apostles and Jesus had the same buttocks size.