‘Ex-Gay’ is the New Jewish

Greg Quinlan of PFOX, Douglas McIntyre of Homosexuals Anonymous and Grace Harley, who claims to be ex-transgender, went on a podcast called Deeper Waters and claimed that the way ex-homosexuals are being treated today is just like what the Nazis did to the Jews.

“The Lord brought to me the Jewish Holocaust in my prayer time and it brought tears to my eyes, because He said, ‘as the Jewish people were being victimized, demonized, demonized to the point that all the Germans and all the people started believing and accepting it, guess what folks? That’s happening here in America,” Harley said, with Quinlan in agreement. “Ex-gay people like myself — we are being so demonized and hated and this is your God they’re hating.”

“Jesus did not walk into one voting booth and pull the lever for the current administration,” Harley exclaimed.

Later in the program, McIntyre also compared the plight of ex-gays to that of Jews under Nazism: “I took a tour of the Holocaust Museum and I went through the early years and looked at exactly the same techniques of lying, suppression and propaganda were exercised there as are being played out today, almost word for word.”

Well sure. Except for all that stuff about rounding them up, putting them in concentration camps and killing them. Other than that, the two situations are virtually indistinguishable.

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  • Chiroptera

    And except that actually no one cares whether anyone is “ex-gay.” The reason that “ex-gays” are “hated” is that they volunteer to be part of the propaganda effort against non-ex-gays.

  • MikeMa

    People hate liars. It is a little less ignorant when the first person you lie to is yourself, but not much.

    On the off chance you are NOT lying, ex-gay is straight . That means you persecute yourself. Feel free to stop any time. And STFU.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    If we’re going Godwin, a more fitting analogy is that ex-gays are to gays what Judischer Ordnungsdienst were to Jews.

  • greg1466

    Wow. God actually ended a sentence with “guess what folks?” I had no idea he was so down to earth, as it were.

    Also, I’m going to guess that Jesus did not walk into a voting booth and pull the lever for any administration…ever.

  • Gvlgeologist, FCD

    Pretty ironic, considering that straights (religious, of course) actually have advocated putting gays into concentration camps.

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2012/05/22/another-self-godwin-baptist-pastor-for-queer-concentration-camps/

  • MikeMa

    Still advocate actually.

  • eric

    “Jesus did not walk into one voting booth and pull the lever for the current administration,”

    …Because he was on the no-fly list.

    …Because he could not produce a long form of his birth certificate to prove citizenship.

    …Because Arpaio picked him up at the border and deported him.

    …He walked into a Chicago voting placed and pulled two levers for the current administration.

    …Because dead people only vote Republican

    What a great set-up line.

  • John Pieret

    Jesus did not walk into one voting booth and pull the lever for the current administration

    Let’s see … a foreign citizen with no photo ID … if Jesus had tried that it would have been one example of the miniscule number of “voter frauds” the wingnuts, autocrats and Republicans (but I repeat myself) are always going on about.

  • Nihilismus

    I think Christians are secretly jealous of Jews because the Holocaust is the quintessential example of persecution — and since it didn’t happen to the Christians, they can’t feel like martyrs, at least not directly.

    So they throw around the term “Judeo-Christian” to make themselves feel connected to the Holocaust, as if it was something that could have happened to them. They view any perceived slight against them as just another example of the kind of animus people in history had against Jews (and thus Judeo-Christians), and since the Nazis took that to the extreme, so too will the “enemies” of Christianity today.

  • http://saltycurrent.blogspot.com SC (Salty Current), OM

    “The Lord brought to me the Jewish Holocaust in my prayer time and it brought tears to my eyes, because He said, ‘as the Jewish people were being victimized, demonized, demonized to the point that all the Germans and all the people started believing and accepting it, guess what folks? That’s happening here in America,”

    Because just on its own, the Holocaust – what’s to cry about?

    ***

    Except for all that stuff about rounding them up, putting them in concentration camps and killing them.

    And of course passing laws to prevent them from having sex with and marrying who they wanted.

  • tbp1

    @ Nihilismus, #9: I think you’re right about the not-so-secret martyr complex of many on the Christian right. As you suggest, that might be part of the rationale behind the ludicrous neologism “Judeo-Christian.” I think another reason for coining that term is that it helps them to disguise Christian complicity in anti-Semitism.

    I’m not Jewish, but if I were, I think I would be very, very unhappy with the wanton comparison of just about anything to the holocaust, especially something essentially non-existent, such as the “demonization” and persecution of ex-gays. Ex-gays, to the extent that they exist at all, are just straight people, and there is virtually no anti-heterosexual discrimination in this country, or anywhere else. As others have pointed out, to the extent that “ex-gays” are even subject to criticism, it’s for lying and/or contributing to the very real demonization and persecution actual gay people are still subject to.

  • John Pieret

    Greg Quinlan of PFOX, Douglas McIntyre of Homosexuals Anonymous and Grace Harley, who claims to be ex-transgender, went on a podcast called Deeper Waters and claimed that the way ex-homosexuals are being treated today is just like what the Nazis did to the Jews.

    Make ’em show us their tattoos.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    And you people make ex-gays get blocky haircuts and force them to wear dockers! And don’t get him started on the bland footwear! Not having his Bruno Maglis is just like Auschwitz! And would it be so much trouble to let him pick the radio station once in a while when you’re in the car on a night out together to Bottom Feeders? Jesus, people, where’s your humanity?!!!

  • trucreep

    Ex-transgender? Makes me think of Mr. Garrison

  • brianwestley

    Eric writes, quoting loon in article first:

    “Jesus did not walk into one voting booth and pull the lever for the current administration,”

    He [Jesus] walked into a Chicago voting placed and pulled two levers for the current administration.

    Three levers. He gets to vote for three, remember?

  • John Hinkle

    “Ex-gay people like myself — we are being so demonized and hated and this is your God they’re hating.”

    Translation: Won’t someone pay any attention to us? At all? Oh yeah, did we mention Nazis? Now we got your attention!! Amirite?

  • Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    @brianwestley:

    Three persons, three votes, you mean?

  • nomennescio
  • Robert B.

    Someone should tell these folks where the pink triangle symbol came from. This is not a comparison that’s going to fly well with anyone who knows any history.

  • http://don'tlinkmebro F [is for failure to emerge]

    WTF does “the current administration” have to do with any of this?

  • dingojack

    “Jesus did not walk into one voting booth and pull the lever for the current administration,” Harley exclaimed”.

    More Republican voter supression, I suspect.

    Dingo

  • The Beautiful Void

    “Ex-gay people like myself — we are being so demonized and hated and this is your God they’re hating.”

    I’m confused. Is it the ex-gays or God who we hate? I really need clarity on this one, because while I’m willing to toe the atheist line and hate ex-gays if those are our marching orders, I’d be much more comfortable hating God.

    Man, being an atheist is so difficult when we keep changing our position like this.

  • voidhawk

    I can accept that some people’s sexuality might be more fluid, less well-defined and more open to change than others. Why can’t the ‘ex-gays’ (assuming for a moment that a small number of people might be able to change) accept that not everybody’s sexuality is as fluid and that some people were gay, are gay and will always be gay?

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Jesus did not walk into one voting booth and pull the lever for the current administration.

    He was a foreign-born socialist giving away free healthcare — why WOULDN’T he vote for Obama?

  • pacal

    I see of course weapons grade projection here. He whines about demonization etc., of Ex-Gays, forgetting of course that actual Gays are the target of massive demonization by many Christian and other fundamentalist groups including from a lot of so-called Ex-Gays. It is rather easy to demonstrate the similarities of the campaign of vilification of Gays by Fundamentalists with Nazi anti-Semitic propaganda. How about the oft repeated but often used trope that Gays are child-molesters. It is just so easy to demonstrate that the hate filled vicious rants of so many Christians, especially Fundamentalists are similar to Der Strummer.

    In the end what it boils down to is that Greg is confusing criticism with persecution, which is now a clichéd trope of much of the right. Of course he presents no evidence of actual discrimination or of any plans to discriminate. No doubt Greg thinks that it is presecution and oppression that Christians are legally prohibited anywhere from discriminating against Gay people. I note he seems to have entirely missed what the actual Nazis did to Gay people.