Why Do Liberals Like Alec Baldwin?

Seriously, I don’t get this. I think he’s a good actor. I’ve enjoyed a lot of his movies. But I don’t see why so many liberals continue to embrace him and MSNBC decided to give him his own show given his track record of outrageous and bigoted behavior. His latest tirade found him calling a photographer a “cocksucking fag.”

And this is not the first time. A few months ago he went ballistic on a British reporter and gay-bashed him and threatened violence on Twitter:

“George Stark, you lying little bitch. I am gonna fuck you up … I want all of my followers and beyond to straighten out this fucking little bitch, George Stark. @MailOnline … My wife and I attend a funeral to pay our respects to an old friend, and some toxic Brit writes this fucking trash … If put my foot up your fucking ass, George Stark, but I’m sure you’d dig it too much … I’m gonna find you, George Stark, you toxic little queen, and I’m gonna fuck … you … up.”

After that outburst of bigotry and violent tendencies, he tried to fall back on the fact that he’s a liberal and is pro-equality. But not only does that not excuse his behavior, it makes it worse. And that’s without even mentioning the astonishingly disgusting voice mail he left for his daughter a few years ago. But after all of that, MSNBC still gave him his own weekly show. It’s time for Baldwin to shut up and go away, and for liberals to stop pretending he’s one of us just because he criticizes Republicans from time to time.

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  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    If George Stark worked for the Daily Mail, then he probably deserved to be attacked by Baldwin. The Mail is a pretty toxic newspaper. But the homophobic slurs are still uncalled-for.

    As for why liberals like Baldwin, I get it even less than you do, since I don’t even like his TV shows and movies.

  • barry21

    Do a lot of liberals embrace him?

  • http://fullmetalfeminist.wordpress.com CaitieCat

    Count him as being unloved by this socialist. He can go in the box of “holy fuck why do we have to be lumbered with this kind of jerk” along with Piers Morgan and Pat Califia and so on.

  • Alverant

    How many liberals consider Baldwin to be one of them? Having a show on MSNBC doesn’t make one liberal. I don’t know him. I haven’t seen his show. If he wants to claim to be liberal, that’s his choice. But that doesn’t mean I have to like him.

  • Al Dente

    barry21 @2

    Do a lot of liberals embrace him?

    I’ve never given Alec Baldwin much thought. I know he was a voice actor in several Thomas the Tank Engine episodes plus did some other acting stuff but that’s no reason to get particularly excited over the guy. I also know he’s got a couple of brothers who are also actors and he’s not related to Adam Baldwin from Firefly. In short, yawn!

  • doublereed

    I’m not sure, but it’s probably because of this:


    I mean, that pretty much wins any argument.

  • dogmeat

    Personally never been much of a fan. Never watched his show, but then I didn’t watch MSNBC before it became the left-win Faux “News.”

    While I agree with him on some points, often he reaches his conclusions by utterly irrational and sometimes laughable means. Much like Bill Maher has dropped religion but now religiously supports some initiatives (IE he appears to have more faith than reason for his stance on climate, vaccines (a position I consider utterly idiotic), etc.), Baldwin appears to arrive at some of his stances in a similar manner. Overall the dude does appear to be homophobic and, bare minimum appears to have some serious anger management issues.

    It does appear that he has been suspended from MSNBC and is “threatening” to end his career.

  • http://george-worroll.tumblr.com gworroll

    He’s an arrogant ass. He doesn’t campaign to get his bigotry enshrined in law, at least. But that only gets him to lesser evil status, not the demigod of righteousness he’s often made out to be.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rick.desper rickdesper

    He doesn’t have to be well-behaved to be a liberal.

    I lost a lot of respect for him during his break-up with Kim Basinger. He’s a man with huge anger management issues, and he’s apparently never learned how to deal with them.

  • dugglebogey

    I grew up in a time and a place approximately the same as Alec Baldwin, when the worst thing you could call a person was a “faggot” or a “jew.” It was totally wrong, just like in the 20’s it was wrong to call someone you were angry at “you half nigger.”

    I never really partook in such insults, but I was called “jew” (I’m waspier than Baldwin) and “faggot” more times than I could count. It was the insult of the time.

    I think when Baldwin loses his temper, he reverts to the young guy who hurled insults at his brothers and called them “cocksuckers” or “faggot.”

    It’s not an excuse, since he should know better, more of an explanation. But part of losing your temper means you’re actually losing something….control of yourself. Some may say he’s revealing his true feelings. I just think he’s falling into old habits.

  • abb3w

    I don’t think he’s all that popular with liberals, myself. Those of my acquaintance think he’s better than a barbed wire enema, but of those I’ve asked about it, none have been able to stand more than nine minutes of his show.

    I think he’s on MSNBC more to fill out their evening line up with yet one more figure corresponding to part of the liberal coalition. Current tokens:

    5 PM, Ed Schultz — blue collar Reagan democrat

    6 PM, Al Sharpton — (semi)traditional black civil rights movement

    7 PM, Chris Matthews — old school Democratic machine politicians

    8 PM, Chris Hayes — geeky young GenX/GenY dude

    9 PM, Rachel Maddow — geeky lesbian

    10 PM (M-Th), Lawrence O’Donnell — smug middle-aged white dude; mix of Hollywood liberal and machine politician

    They needed someone (better than O’Donnell) to represent the liberal Hollywood elites, and needed someone whose career was in desperate enough straits to accept working for peanuts. Given those parameters, Alec Baldwin seems a relatively obvious candidate.

    They also seem short on Ivory Tower academics; maybe that’s next on the line-up changes?

  • colnago80

    Not to defend Baldwin whose choice of epithets is totally unacceptable but those of us who dwell in relative obscurity cannot fathom just how annoying and obnoxious the paparazzi who bedevil celebrities can be. These cretins are like locusts and I am in awe as to how most of the celebrities manage to keep their cool and refrain from punching them out. I sure as hell couldn’t.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    He has a show on MSNBC? What is it, a game show?*


    * First prize is a new Cadillac. Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you’re fired.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    Alec Baldwin is not getting my vote for “Man of the Year” or anything else. Otoh, he’s a decent actor and has a terrific voice for certain work. Actors, much like major sports figures are held to a ridiculous standard of behavior. If some fuckwad stalked me or my family to make a living, I’d do whatever I could to make his life as uncomfortable as he was making mine. If he’s being extralegal in that regard I’d go after him legally; if he’s just being an obnoxious asshole I would probably do what most celebs do and grit my teeth until I couldn’t deal with it anymore. Most of us, I suspect, would do something similar.

    “…needed someone whose career was in desperate enough straits to accept working for peanuts. Given those parameters, Alec Baldwin seems a relatively obvious candidate.”

    Unless I missed something in the news, Alec Baldwin is doing alright financially. Perhaps he has squandered all of the money he was paid for “30 Rock” and other projects over the last 30 years but I’m not privy to his financial data.

    Adam Baldwin used to be a liberal but, according to Wiki:

    “He has been a registered Democrat since 1980,[6] but admits reexamining his views after being given a copy of David Horowitz’s book Radical Son.[7]”

    he’s prolly a Teabagistanian these days.

  • Donnie

    @Modusoperandi : ABC: Always Be Closing….and you owe me a Cadillac!

  • Jackie teh kitteh cuddler

    He worked his way into my heart through the SNL “Shweaty Balls” bit.

    I think he worked his way back out again with his use of slurs.

  • Artor

    I’ve never been much of a fan of any of the Baldwins. Alec is less shitty than Steven, but that’s not saying much. I can’t remember him in any role I liked, and his non-acting appearances show him as pretty much of a dick. I find myself asking also; Do liberals like Baldwin? If so, why?

  • Nathair

    Why Do Liberals Like Alec Baldwin?

    I suggest you phone all three of them and just ask them directly.

  • lofgren

    Yeah, for all of the reasons mentioned above I am having a hard time really getting down on Baldwin for this. Obviously we should emphasize the point that this language is inherently loaded with bigotry but using does not necessarily make one a bigot. These are clearly words chosen for their impact alone. Whether he is truly embraced by liberals I couldn’t say. I know he supports public radio and recycling efforts and that’s about all I know about his politics. So whether he is a good liberal or not I don’t know, but I don’t think that losing his temper from time to time and saying inappropriate things disqualifies him in any way.

  • scienceavenger

    @7 ” …I didn’t watch MSNBC before it became the left-win Faux “News.”

    Oh come on. It’s great to be open to the notion that both sides have their problems, but I watch both regularly and they aren’t remotely the same. Fox is in its own category. The intellectual content on MSNBC is head and shoulders above Fox (Chris Hayes, for whom there is no equivalent on Fox, often presents the GOP position more adroitly than the GOP does), not to mention their openness about their ideological biases and their corrections when they occasionally make factual errors. And Bill Hemmer, morning Fox guy, is possibly the dumbest man on TV (even more than Steve Doocy). There’s no one remotely that stupid on MSNBC.

    As for Baldwin, I’m very appreciative of his voice work for science shows, but I find him obnoxious beyond redemption, and couldn’t imagine watching.his show.

  • scienceavenger

    (con.t) Hemmer once responded to a story about new dating of the age of the sun, and its expansion to a red giant, frying the earth in the process (around 1.7B years from now) with “So what does this say to people who believe in global warming?” The scientist handled it better than I would have. Hemmer also apparently thinks Dolphin use of sonar is a radical new discovery. MSNBC has its flaws, but its another league over there at Fox.

  • Michael Heath

    I think Alec Baldwin is popular with liberals is because he’s one of the few with a bully pulpit who goes for an ‘in-your-face’ win. A Palin, Cruz, Nugent icon of our own. Anthony Weiner, Alan Grayson, Bill Maher are a couple of others that match the type. With the exception of Maher the shelf life on this type isn’t so swell.

  • https://www.facebook.com/brooks.austin.52 Brooks Austin

    What I don’t understand is how he got a job at MSNBC. It’s not like he’s an actual journalist or has anything new or clever to offer us. I have to wonder how Rachel Maddow feels about having to introduce his show every week.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1531393070 danrobinson

    He says cocksucker like it was a bad thing.

  • dogmeat

    Oh come on. It’s great to be open to the notion that both sides have their problems, but I watch both regularly and they aren’t remotely the same. Fox is in its own category.

    SA @20-21,

    Don’t misunderstand, I’m not saying that MSNBC is as bad as Faux, only that they’ve swung in a direction away from journalism and into partisanship that I find annoying even if I do happen to agree with them. Faux is a blight upon humanity, a toxic waste dump; MSNBC is just mildly annoying.