KKK: We’re a Great Bunch of Guys!

The local KKK chapter in Chesterfield County, Virginia has been delivering fliers to homes in the area and, believe it or not, some people are upset about that. But they’re clearly overreacting because the KKK is totally not about hating dark-skinned people or anything. Really, just ask them.

“The thing that really gets me is that (people are) saying we’re teaching our children to hate people just because of their race, creed and color, and that’s a complete lie and falsehood,” said Frank Ancona, president and imperial wizard of the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Ancona, who is based in Missouri, says the group has been dealt a bad hand by the media and the Union government after the Civil War. He said that it’s actually a fraternal organization that has specific values, including preserving the constitution as written and traditional Christian beliefs.

Isn’t that always the way? You lynch a few thousand black people and the media starts to unfairly tar you as violent racists. It’s just not fair.

Ancona said he doesn’t know who put out the fliers or how many members are in Chesterfield. The organization’s website has a dozen fliers that members can print up and hand out in areas they believe are ripe for recruitment, he said.

One of those fliers says “many people have experienced the blacks firsthand” and have seen the “savagery and animalism in many of these people.”

The flier that went to Chesterfield residents says the organization’s mission is “exalting the Caucasian race and teaching the doctrine of white supremacy.”

“That does not mean that we are enemies of the colored and mongrel race, but it does mean that we are organized to establish the solidarity and to realize the mission of the white race,” that flier reads.

Silly me, I’ve been white all my life and it never occurred to me that we had a collective mission.

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  • alanb

    The thing that really gets me is that (people are) saying we’re teaching our children to hate people just because of their race, creed and color, and that’s a complete lie and falsehood.

    Of course it’s a lie. They’re teaching their children to hate people because of their race, creed OR color. Any one of those is sufficient. It doesn’t have to be a trifecta.

  • Childermass

    “Silly me, I’ve been white all my life and it never occurred to me that we had a collective mission.”

    Ditto American, human, etc.

    Vonnegut would use the word Granfalloon to describe them all.

  • comfychair

    So, in other words, they don’t hate anybody just for their skin color, they only hate lazy criminals who are hellbent on destroying the good and noble white folks, and it’s just a pure coincidence that all those people happen to have the same skin color. See? Not racist at all!

  • frankb

    “Colored and Mongrel Race”, great name for a rock band.

  • iknklast

    Of course they want to preserve the Constitution as written. Black people were only 3/5 person, and you could own them. Women weren’t given any rights, either. It was a white guy world, run by white guys. Then it was usurped by all these hateful people who think you don’t have to be white to be a person.

  • D. C. Sessions

    And, right on schedule, another of Ed’s favorite “Millions and millions gathering!” events.

  • That does not mean that we are enemies of the colored and mongrel race

    I think I see a problem….

  • You lynch a few thousand black people and the media starts to unfairly tar you as violent racists.

    To be fair, at the time everybody else was doing it, too. Imagine how many grieving families were shocked and confused to find “lynching trophies” in grandpa’s locker in the attic after he passed away. The world was a much different place before TV. Now we have The Apprentice, which is progress of a sort.


    It’s just not fair.

    You know what they say, “Those who remember the past are liable to hold it against you.”

  • marcus

    KKK: We’re a Great Bunch of Guys Big Bunch of Assholes!

  • I remember being 10 years old or so and being driven around by my father (who is very much to the right—comically so—) when I saw a road sign saying “this highway adopted by the Ku Klux Klan.” I was surprised at this, and asked my dad why such an organization would do something as nice as adopting a highway, to which he replied: “oh, they’re a charitable organization now. They haven’t burned crosses on blacks’ lawns in forever.”

  • dingojack

    ‘No, no he’s a lovely bloke. He used to buy his mum flowers and that!’


  • Of course they don’t teach their kids to hate non-whites.

    In much the same way they don’t teach their kids to hate dogs, or cows, or draft horses. Because they honestly seem to see the other races as equivalent to animals. So you use them while they know their place, and you put them down when they become too rebellious to be used. But you don’t *hate* them.

    In a way, it’s an even sicker outlook than just hating.

  • pacal

    These jerks say:

    “That does not mean that we are enemies of the colored and mongrel race.”

    I’ll make the assumption that “mongrel” is a slip for “mongol”. Aside from the use of lower case this particular “slip” is most telling, almost Freudian, about what they really think. That they are Racist jerks.

  • sugarfrosted

    @5 I really wish people would stop taking the 3/5 compromise out of context. It’s not that black people were worth “3/5 of a person” it’s that as far as the electoral college cared they were counted as population. In all honesty they should have counts “0 of a person” as far as the electoral college was concerned. Which is actually what the abolitionists wanted. So basically the fact that they weren’t “0” is more of an example of oppression and actually may have resulted in the oppression lasting longer. SHEESH PEOPLE. Also women couldn’t vote and were counted in the electoral college anyway as well.

  • thinkfree83

    A couple of years ago, the KKK tried to adopt a highway in Georgia, which caused the expected controversy. The KKK feigned confusion about the outrage, claiming that they weren’t “racists” or “white nationalists,” they just preferred the company of non-semitic white people. Yes, they said it just like that. In the end, the government just decided that no one could adopt a highway anymore so they wouldn’t have to deal with the flak that a KKK-sponsored highway would bring. Fortunately, the Black Nonbelievers of Atlanta were able to adopt a highway before the program ended.

  • dickspringer

    I had army basic training at Fort Gordon, Georgia, named after a confederate officer who headed the KKK in Georgia after the Civil War. He was held in high esteem there. A test: Name the US Army posts named after people who waged war on the US.

  • Desert Son, OM

    dickspringer at #16:

    A test: Name the US Army posts named after people who waged war on the US.

    Off the top of my head and without checking the Intartubes I can only come up with three, plus some guesses:

    Ft. Hood in Texas, for John Bell Hood, who lost more body parts than a Ford Pinto at speed.

    Ft. Rucker in Alabama. I know it’s named for a general but can’t remember the full name.

    Ft. Bragg in North Carolina, for Braxton Bragg.

    There’s got to be a Ft. Lee, right? Almost certainly in Virginia? Lee, after all, being the patron saint of Romanticized Southern History Pay No Attention To The Racism Behind The Curtain.

    Is there a Ft. Beauregard? Ft. Shelby?

    That’s all I could think of. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s much, much more.

    Still learning,


  • Desert Son, OM

    Follow up to my post at #17.

    Upon reflection, my flippant remark about Hood’s multiple amputations was wrong to make. Not endorsing Hood’s allegiance, nonetheless amputation due to injury—in wars as in accidents—is a real thing that affects people’s lives. Amputation does not diminish personhood in any way, but I treated it in my comment as if it was casually glib. That was rooted in my privilege and wrong.

    That error is mine, and I apologize.

    Still learning,


  • dingojack

    Desert Sun – You’re thinking of Col. Edmund Winchester Rucker (1835 – 1924)*.



    * According to the FoAW.

  • dingojack

    Hmm…. let me try that link again.


  • Pacal @ 13:

    I’ll make the assumption that “mongrel” is a slip for “mongol”

    Not necessarily. This is Virginia (as in “Loving vs…”) after all, where the ideology of the KKK is likely to be more upset about the presence of mixed-race African/European people (who give the lie to the idea that there is any inherent separateness about different human populations) than about the relatively small minority of people from east Asia.

  • @21:


    He was a fucking traitor. Decapitation would have been suitable. I get pretty damned tires of people who are apologists for the CSA’s leaders (and I’m NOT including you as one of them). The common soldiers in the CSA were often illiterate, hardscrabble farmers and small town tradesmen and merchants who were bound to the land like the serfs in Europe. Their leaders were not simple men who lacked formal educations (a fair number of them being U.S. military academy graduates. EVERY CSA soldier was guilty of insurrection or worse. Any of their leaders who had been politicians who took an oath of office prior to the secession of their state were flat out traitors to their oaths of office and, in the cases of military officers, their oath of commission.

    Very few of the CSA’s leaders suffered at the hands of the U.S. federal government and I never heard of any who were even censured in their home state. I also have never heard of any of them apologizing to the people of the U.S. or even their own states for the ruin that they caused. Additionally, many of them were active in resisting Reconstruction and some of them were leaders of groups like the KKK and the Knights of the White Camellia. Fuck’em.

  • @21:

    Sorry, I didn’t put in that I agree with your take on the use of “mongrel”. If there is anything that racist shitheads like the KKK hate more than darkies and joos, it’s white folks and Christians that consort with them.

  • arakasi

    Desert Son, OM

    Yes, there is a Ft Lee in Virginia. It’s the location of the Army’s Logistics University, Quartermaster school, Ordinance school, & Transportation school. Virginia also has Ft AP Hill, Camp Pendleton, and Ft Pickett. (although I think the last two are used only by the VA National Guard)

    Georgia has Ft Benning & Ft Gordon. Louisiana has Ft Polk & Ft. Beauregard.

    There was a Ft Shelby, but it dates back to the War of 1812.

    There may be some more, but they aren’t coming to mind right now.

  • freehand

    Yeah, ‘mongel’ was not a typo.


    They see whites who consorted with non-whites as “traitors to their race”. Like fundies who see atheists and Muslims obviously working together (they both hate Jesus, right?) they often didn’t bother to distinguish among the various “colored” people. Whites who spent time with them (or had sex!) were voluntarily surrendering their privilege, as well as leading to the dwindling of a white genepool. Me, I’m usually in favor of marrying outside the family. [shrug]


    BTW, many of them hate gays for the same reason. “Womenfolk are lesser creatures, to be sure, but they’re cute, and after all they were born that way. Why would a man want to be like a woman?” (Which explains part of their relative lack of antipathy toward lesbians.) “Well of course they want to be like men – who wouldn’t?”