Shocker: Bundy is a Racist Too

I’m sure it will come as a terrible shock to find out that Cliven Bundy, the freeloading rancher in a tense standoff with the federal government, is also a racist. During his daily pep rally with supporters he went on a rant that began, “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro.” And here’s what else he knows:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Ah yes, the “negros” (seriously, does he still live in the 1950s?) were better off as slaves because they’re less free today than they were then. Imagine a mind capable of saying that with a straight face. This isn’t just wrong, it’s morally repulsive and utterly delusional. Oh, and racist too. But he’s not backing down one bit:

In a press conference Thursday, Bundy defended and repeated his comments but emphasized he was merely “wondering” whether African-Americans were better off as slaves.

“And that’s a question I put before the world: Are they better, or were they better then? I’m not saying I thought they should be slaves, or I wasn’t even saying they was (sic) better off; I’m wondering if they’re better off,” he said.

Bundy said he questions whether those living under government subsidies are living as slaves to the state, but denied he held racist views.

“I might not have a very big word base or vocabulary, I guess, but let me tell you something: When I say slavery, I mean slavery…Slavery is about when you take away choices from people, and where you have forced labor,” he said. “You think that’s what I’m about, America? If it is, you’re sure wrong, because I don’t believe in any type of that stuff.”

And Bundy didn’t back down in an interview Thursday night with CNN’s Bill Weir. He questioned whether blacks are better off now when “they don’t have nothing to do with their children, their family unit is ruined (and) I don’t think they have the life that they should have.”

“I don’t think I’m wrong,” he told CNN, insisting that he’d spoken “from my heart.” “I think I’m right.”

Of course, he didn’t just ask the question, he answered it when he claimed that they had more freedom as slaves than they do today. And by the way, who exactly is the welfare queen here? He’s living off public resources and refusing to pay for them. Maybe he’d be better off as a slave? I mean, I’m just asking the question. Or maybe living off the dole is only bad when it’s black people?

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  • eric

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?”

    What this episode has taught me is that “they” spend their time riding on a horse, carrying an American Flag, posing for cameras, and defending their government subsidy.

  • Michael Heath

    Duck Dynasty redux. I wonder if there’s a topical series of conservative viral emails out there feeding into the racism of conservatives.

  • raven

    Turns out Cliven Bundy lied about everything. This guy is a fraud, start to finish.

    >blockquote>Bundy’s ‘Ancestral Rights’ Story A Load Of Crap

    KLAS in Las Vegas debunks some of the facts surrounding Cliven Bundy’s ‘ancestral rights’ malarkey. Court records show cattle started grazing on that land in 1954.

    Cliven Bundy a fraud? Who would have ever guessed that in a million years.

    His cattle, until recently, roamed freely on land managed by the federal Bureau of Land Management. Before the roundup that sparked protests, confrontations and gunmen taking a bridge, Bundy explained his “ancestral rights” to the I-Team.

    “I’ve lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements,” Bundy said.

    Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy’s parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt.

    Water rights were transferred too, but only to the ranch, not the federally managed land surrounding it. Court records show Bundy family cattle didn’t start grazing on that land until 1954.

    The Bureau of Land Management was created 1946, the same year Cliven was born.

    http:// crooksandliars. com/2014/04/bundys-ancestral-rights-story-load-crap

    He was claiming some ancestral right to 500,000 acres of BLM land.

    Turns out his family never ranched there. He’s from Arizona.

    His family bought the ranch in 1948. They didn’t start grazing cattle on federal land until 1954.

    It doesn’t take much to be a rightwing hero. Being a common criminal and liar will do it.

  • raven

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?”

    They could always do what Bundy did.

    1. Inherit a ranch from his parents.

    2. Steal resources from 1/2 million acres of public land.

    3. Lie a lot.

    4. Threaten to kill a bunch of federal employees with a goon squad supported by the Koch brothers.

  • Menyambal

    He lives on a government subsidy, he has guns to fight the police, he has fourteen children, he doesn’t have a real job, he hangs out on public property, and he deals in a substance that is bad for people and is destroying the land, and he is superstitious, dishonest and incoherent. I started trying to show how many ways Bundy is like the stereotype he has of black men, but I realize that he is so much worse than even that caricature.

  • eric

    Duck Dynasty redux.

    Not quite. After that flap (pun intended), the right mostly supported their anti-gay bigotry and kept covering those folk. But this guy’s racial bigotry is far less socially acceptable, at least in public, so I expect the result from the right-side media will be quite different. My guess is, they’ll pretend it never happened or just ‘slink away’ and stop covering the story altogether.

  • somnus

    Who or what, exactly, is “the Negro?” I’m fairly certain there are many individual black people, not just one. So is “the Negro” a specific one of them? Maybe the one who’s secretly in charge of all the black people? Just like us white people have “the Caucasian” who secretly rules us all? Or some collective hive mind made up of the collective consciousnesses of all black people?

    Or maybe… just maybe… “the Negro” is merely a racist caricature that lives in this guy’s head as a stand-in for all black folk so that he can conveniently pretend their individual personalities and successes don’t exist?

  • Loqi

    Huh. I didn’t know there were roving hordes of older black people going around throwing black children who don’t pick cotton in jail. Who knew they had such authority? And apparently they also abort some non-cotton pickers. “Hey you! Go pick some cotton or I’ll abort you!” I’m sure it’s entirely coincidental that these supposed black people throwing kids in jail or murdering them kinda sound like white slave owners…

    And of course, field slaves had great family lives, what with the whole “breeding” the stronger slaves like livestock and selling husbands, wives, and children from the rest of the family. And don’t forget the “doing things!” Yes, slaves were always taking long vacations, visiting grandma at the cabin, or going on camping trips. Until, of course, they were caught by slave catchers and either killed or brutally beaten. Yeah, not making money because you don’t have a job is so much less free than not making money because you are someone else’s property. And lounging on a porch is so much less free than being forced to do back-breaking labor under threat of torture and death.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    I have been eating food all my life. My ancestors ate food for at least several generations. Therefore I now feel entitled to receive food at no cost.

  • Modusoperandi

    He’s not racist. He’s just been too busy defending Freedom to keep up on the dogwhistles, that’s all. Clean him up, put him in a suit, teach him to speak real goodly and he’ll be another Paul Ryan in no time.

  • reddiaperbaby1942

    Looking at images of this man, I can’t help seeing him as a clueless, foolish, somewhat pathetic old man. How old is he? His language shows that he hasn’t read a book since about 1960; probably not a newspaper or magazine article either. The fact that he’s gone on to repeat the same ideas, using the same outdated language, in an attempt to rehabilitate himself, suggests that he really doesn’t have a clue. My feeling is that (unlike those who have latched onto him and are exploiting hm for their own political and ideological purposes) he really has no idea what he’s done wrong.

    Of course that doesn’t detract from the obvious fact that his racial and social attitudes are highly malevolent and callous toward those whom he perceives as different from himself and his family, and (ironically, as many here have pointed out) as taking handouts that they haven’t earned.

  • Modusoperandi

    reddiaperbaby1942, you know the family holidays meal where grampa gets a little bit drunk, a little bit sleepy and a whole lot bittter, and starts blurting things out? Bundy’s him on a horse. (The main difference is that Bundy doesn’t have grandma to shush him)

  • Who Cares

    What I find more shocking is that in visiting my favorite cook news aggregator there were articles defending him.

    Everything from the this is out of context through government conspiracy to some of my best friends are black.

  • felidae

    The Drudge Report defends Bundy thusly: “He was not media trained”–meaning nobody taught him how to use dog whistle phrases when speaking in public instead of accurately stating his views

  • lofgren

    Geez, the way this guy says “they” it’s almost like he thinks that black people are some kind of inhuman other.

  • reddiaperbaby1942

    Yes, Modus at #12, that’s exactly what he’s like!

  • Artor

    Bundy would obviously be more free if he were living rent-free in a federal prison, breaking rocks, (for free, or course) and without the terrible burden of having to take care of his herd. I think, for the sake of human kindness, that we should make sure Bundy is freed from all the hardship of having to make his own choices in life.