Star Parker’s Terrible Reasoning

Star Parker’s latest Worldnetdaily column declares that “the battle’s not over” on same-sex marriage. She admits that public opinion has shifted dramatically, but her argument isn’t that it’s going to shift back but that not enough black people have been convinced to support equality yet.

Public opinion has changed dramatically in a relatively short period of time in favor of legal recognition of same-sex marriage, and this is producing an impression that the battle is over. An article this week in National Journal headlined “Opposing same-sex marriage is a waste of your time.”

According to the Pew Research Center, the percentage of Americans favoring legal same-sex marriage has increased to 54 percent today from 35 percent in 2001.

However, despite the argument that “gay rights” is today’s signature civil rights battle as racial equality was the civil rights battle of the 1960s, blacks are generally not buying it.

According to the Pew survey, support for legal same-sex marriage among black Protestants at 43 percent indicates that support has increased in this community, but remains far below the national average…

Blacks, on average, attend church with greater frequency than any other ethnic group in the country. And blacks take scripture seriously.

It is a no-brainer for many churchgoing blacks that discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior.

Only 32 percent of Republicans, according to Pew, support same-sex marriage legalization. This issue, along with abortion, is not going away as a source of tension in the Republican Party.

Black pastors know firsthand how moral relativism destroys communities. They are not about to buy into it…

This fight is far from over.

That would be a non sequitur. Yes, a smaller percentage of black people support same-sex marriage. But how does it follow that therefore the fight isn’t over? They don’t have enough votes to stop it, nor do they have any more influence in the courts than anyone else. Logic — how the fuck does that work?

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  • matty1

    It is a no-brainer for many churchgoing blacks that discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior.

    That’s right, a better analogy would be choices in religious behaviour. I propose a ban on baptists getting married. After all they made a choice* to be baptists and have the same right as everyone else to convert to a religion that can get married.

    *For the hard of thinking no the analogy doesn’t depend on sexuality being an actual choice.

  • cptdoom

    Black pastors know firsthand how moral relativism destroys communities. They are not about to buy into it…

    Is this the same “moral relativism” that gave us the First Amendment guarantee of religious freedom? Because it seems like this country has thrived in the centuries since our Founding Fathers were smart enough to realize the enforcement of religious orthodoxy was an impossibility and a threat to real freedom. So they created a country where we were free to decide to which church to belong, and it didn’t even have to be Christian. Since that time we’ve seen the creation of entirely new churches in the US, from those that were derived from the mainstream denominations (e.g., the Baptists) and those that are entirely new in theology (e.g., Mormonism and Scientology). Is this not the very definition of “moral relativism”? And if so, why do you hate America, Star Parker?

  • scienceavenger

    …discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior….

    Yes, and choices in sexual behavior are very different from differences in sexual orientation. To deny that difference as Parker does is to deny that there are people with Lou Gehrig’s disease, and to pretend they are people who refuse to move.

  • Pen

    It is a no-brainer for many churchgoing blacks that discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior.

    People with brains will be able to note from this that gay black people face extra discrimination because of their race, in the form of greater emotional pressures on coming out and a greater likelihood of remaining closeted. And more, I expect…

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Wasn’t Starparker the maiden name of Luke Skywalker’s mom?

  • busterggi

    “It is a no-brainer for many churchgoing blacks that discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior.”

    So is Star saying black people choose to be black?

  • John Pieret

    It is a no-brainer for many churchgoing blacks that discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior.

    Excellent choice of words … there is nothing to do with brains in that sentence. So, Star, you’d agree that laws against interracial marriage were very different than Jim Crow laws because who you marry and the sexual behavior that goes with it are just choices, right? You would have opposed Loving v. Virginia, wouldn’t you have?

  • some bastard on the net

    Modus @5

    Wasn’t Starparker the maiden name of Luke Skywalker’s mom?

    How dare you besmirch the name of Skywalker!!

    Begone, you scruffy nerf herder! Out, OUT!!

  • garnetstar

    It’s a free country, so Republicans are welcome to be as tense as they want to about abortion and marriage equality.

    Just don’t expect the rest of us to be concerned about your tension. Or to pay any attention.

  • abb3w

    Blacks in general may not be buying it yet; the GSS data through 2012 indicates that support by blacks is comparable to that from whites 5-6 years earlier. However, in both races, younger generational cohorts are vastly more tolerant than their parents.

    “It is all over except for the shouting — of the rearguard, as they fly, but who, true to the best traditions of contemporary journalism, affect to be advancing, what while they hurry off the stricken field.”

  • steffp

    A short remark from outside the US:

    Anyone else see the implicit contradiction?

    Blacks, on average, attend church with greater frequency than any other ethnic group in the country. And blacks take scripture seriously.

    Which. in her world view, should make them model Xian citizens. But, hey, they’re black, so:

    Black pastors know firsthand how moral relativism destroys communities.

    So, taking scripture seriously does not immunize against moral relativism?

  • Ichthyic

    This issue, along with abortion, is not going away as a source of tension political manipulation in the Republican Party.

    FTFY

  • Ichthyic

    So is Star saying black people choose to be black?

    at the risk of missing any joke on sentence construction you might have been trying to make…

    no.

    she’s promulgating the false meme that sexuality is always a choice.

  • thebookofdave

    Black pastors know firsthand how moral relativism destroys communities. They are not about to buy into it…

    Is this the same moral relativism that both emancipated her ancestors and later integrated them into society? In this case, the only thing that destroyed communities was resistance to moral relativism. Star Parker is either referring to a very limited subset of black pastors, or is suggesting they are oblivious to historical progress.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Star Parker’s latest Worldnetdaily column declares that “the battle’s not over” on same-sex marriage.

    Yes it is.

    Over that is and the homophobic side have been totally routed.

    Even Orson Scott Card has admitted as much :

    http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/07/08/enders-game-orson-scott-card-statement/

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    ^ D’oh! Blockquote fail – first line meant to be quote, the rest mine.

    @ Modusoperandi : “Wasn’t Starparker the maiden name of Luke Skywalker’s mom?”

    Luke’s mother’s name was Shmi Skywalker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmi_Skywalker#Shmi_Skywalker-Lars ) so no.

  • dingojack

    “This fight is far from over.”

    ‘…. and in other news, Star Parker has arms and legs chopped off. Declares “it’s only a flesh wound”. Film at 11’.

    @@

    Dingo

  • dingojack

    According to Pew Research, the members of ‘historic Black Churches’ make up 6.9% of all adults, of these 92% are black and 47% disapprove of marriage equality.

    According to this research over the last four elections (2000-2012) an average of 8.25% of ‘Black protestants’ voted for the Republicans.

    Well Star, you keep pinning your hopes to that staggering majority of 0.246% (0.069*0.92*0.47*0.0825) of Black, ‘Black church-going’, bigoted, Republican voters.

    I’m sure that might even brave a little DC drizzle if you asked them*

    Dingo

    ——–

    * nah, the last sentence is a lie, I doubt you’d even get even a dozen off the sofa.

  • eric

    “It is a no-brainer for many churchgoing blacks that discrimination because of race is very different from choices in sexual behavior.”

    Sure its very different. Unfortunately for you, if you compare orientation to religious choice instead, such discrimination will still be illegal.

    As a general principle, if some factor is irrelevant to job performance or serving a customer, then there’s a pretty good chance it will be illegal to refuse someone employment or service because of it.

  • dingojack

    Further to mine #18, Star’s hoping that those 355921 votes (assuming 60% turnout, the best result for Black voters in the elections 1998-2004 when a non-black guy was running) are going to out perform all those not voting for bigots.

    You keep up your attempts to stop the rising tide, Star. I’m sure you’ll not drown. @@

    Dingo.