Awww. Scott Lively Wants an Apology

This is kinda cute. After the Ugandan Supreme Court struck down that country’s harsh anti-gay law on a technicality, Scott Lively thinks he is owed an apology by those who have pointed out his own self-declared role in helping get that law passed. His reasoning is, as always, highly suspect.

Now that the Ugandan government has shown itself capable of self-governance, I’m waiting for calls of apology from media outlets around the world who for years have insinuated (or outright insisted) that the Ugandans were merely my puppets in a nefarious scheme to persecute homosexuals there. That lie is also, of course, the premise of the “Crimes Against Humanity” lawsuit filed against me here in U.S. Federal Court by Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG) and their Marxist New York attorneys of the ironically named Center for Constitutional Rights.

The SMUG lawsuit claims that my preaching against homosexuality in Uganda overpowered the weak-minded African natives and turned them into rampaging bloodthirsty savages bent on “gay” genocide. Never mind that there has not been any actual violence there — except for the murder of SMUG leader David Kato by his “gay” lover. Never mind also that Kato’s murderer was convicted by this same Ugandan judiciary and is now serving a 30 year sentence. And never mind that in the paltry few other instances listed in the SMUG lawsuit where alleged wrongs were committed against homosexuals – instances which I condemned and had nothing to do with – the same Ugandan courts have held the wrongdoers responsible – which decisions I applauded.

But as Jim Burroway points out, Lively has declared himself the “Father of the Ugandan Pro-Family Movement” and told a reporter:

I was actually one of the people that helped to start the pro-family movement there. …they were finding people there, primarily homosexual men from Europe and the United States coming into the country and working to try to change the social values. And they didn’t know what to do. They had never had a pro-family movement. This was all new to them. So they wanted to draft some kind of law. And it wasn’t written at that point. It was just sort of the idea that they wanted to do something. So they invited me to come and speak along with a couple of other people from the U.S., and I did…

On the positive side, my host and ministry partner in Kampala, Stephen Langa, was overjoyed with the results of our efforts and predicted confidently that the coming weeks would see significant improvement in the moral climate of the nation, and a massive increase in pro-family activism in every social sphere. He said that a respected observer of society in Kampala had told him that our campaign was like a nuclear bomb against the “gay” agenda in Uganda. I pray that this, and the predictions, are true.

He once bragged of his influence. Now that it’s come true, he’s outraged — outraged! — that anyone would suggest that he had such influence.

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  • cptdoom

    Lively presented himself as an expert on a topic, used inflammatory rhetoric and outright lies to promote his bigotry, and was believed by his audience. This has nothing to do with Ugandans being unable to govern themselves, this is all about the gullibility of human beings when confronted by someone who claims to know more. It’s not a Ugandan failing, it’s a human one.

  • karmacat

    I suspect he didn’t really influence them but just gave them the language to use, so the leaders say pro-family rather than anti-gay.

  • dingojack

    Better be careful Ed, you know how Lively and his ilk of Liar Spawn hate being directly quoted. He might just try to sue!


  • Chiroptera

    Dear Scott,

    I’m so very sorry that you suck. But it’s not my fault.

    Love, Chiroptera

  • Abby Normal

    I was unaware Lively was being sued for “Crimes Against Humanity.” That’s one hell of a tort. Is there any real basis or is this a SLAPP? To the Google!

  • John Pieret

    in the paltry few other instances listed in the SMUG lawsuit where alleged wrongs were committed against homosexuals – instances which I condemned and had nothing to do with

    Yeah! You have to wait until AFTER the Holocaust to charge people with it!

    Unfortunately for Lively, he continues to insist on living in the US (instead of going permanently to one of the new shining cities on the hill, like Uganda), and we have something called the Alien Tort Statute that allows people to sue even if “paltry few”people (I wonder what Livey would think was more than “paltry” when it came to denying peoples’ rights?) have been hurt yet (a claim I wouldn’t believe from Lively even if, or ESPECIALLY, he swore on a stack of Bibles). What’s more, his denial of being directly involved or even condemning the violence isn’t worth spit where the basis of liability alleged is aiding and abetting a crime against humanity, a well established offense under customary international law that includes widespread, systematic persecution of individuals based on their sexual orientation and gender identity. None of the Nazis tried in Nuremberg had to personally participate in acts of violence or murder in order to be found guilty of crimes against humanity and their claims of condemning the violence did not seem to carry much weight.

    And, Ed, I don’t think this is “kinda cute,” though I think I know what you were trying to say. Lively was and continues to be a participant in major crimes against humanity across numerous nations and should be viewed, at best, as “kinda evil.”

  • John Pieret

    Abby Normal @ %:

    It is not a SLAPP suit. It has survived motions to dismiss in Federal court, including based on claims of infringement on his right to free speech (the essence of a SLAPP suit). You can read the decision here:

  • busterggi

    How dare Uganda persecute poor Scott!

  • Abby Normal

    Thanks for the link John Pieret. I won’t comment further until I’ve reviewed the facts. But the introduction is encouraging.

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Maybe the top Ugandan court is ready for governance, but the legislature which couldn’t muster/count a quorum might need a bit more work.

  • anubisprime

    It seems more rational for humanity to receive an apology from this particular jebus sunbeam.

    But even then what kind of apology does anyone get from such an extremely poor excuse for a human being?

    This doofus is a dangerous maniac driven by an insane dogma, after he finished insuring that ‘teh ghey’ are put to death, who was next on his shit list, atheists ?

    This wannabe homicidal sob has to be stopped and sooner rather then later, before his brand of retribution gets a foothold anywhere in the world.

    It is to be hoped that a trial would at least slow this maniac down if not incarcerate him, the world needs him gone.

    It was international pressure that managed to get this abomination of a law scrapped, and absolutely FA to do with jebus or his dead head self appointed minions.

    No doubt those same minions will lobby to get it, or a similar punishment reintroduced and it would not be a shock to see Lively leading the charge.

    Seems the spirit of Matthew Hopkins rides high and righteous, and those xtians really like to hear and see the victims suffer hell on Earth, after all it is not about any justice that they pretend to seek …just mediaeval punishment and the bloodier the better for the greater glory of their delusion.

  • 10 x increase in violence against LGBT since passage of the law in question:

  • anubisprime

    From Ed’s Jim Burroway link…

    “Westboro Baptist is typically held up as the go-to example for the most extreme brand of anti-gay hatred imaginable, but I must strongly disagree. Westboro is a circus side show, a bunch of clowns with a talent for tweaking their targets, but with no results to show for it. Lively’s evil has had real-world consequences. And by his boasts, we can see how much satisfaction he derives from his malevolence.”

    Lively is a real danger to far far to many in this world…fuckin’ personification of Christian evil made flesh, if the devil existed he would be taking notes about how the big boys do it!

  • Does a fist in the throat count as an apology?

  • busterggi

    ashleybell: Only if the fist is sincere. Or says it is. Or doesn’t say it isn’t.