Doocy and Kilmeade Grasp the Real Message of Domestic Violence

Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade, the staggeringly stupid hosts of the Fox News morning show, reacted just the way you would expect them to react to the video of Ray Rice punching his wife and putting her head into a metal railing. The lesson they draw from this: Take the stairs.

After TMZ released a leaked surveillance video that showed what happened when Rice knocked out the woman inside the elevator, the Fox News hosts asked viewers if a two-game suspension had been appropriate.

“We should also point out, after that video — and now you know what happened in there — she still married him,” host Steve Doocy explained. “They are currently married.”

“Rihanna went back to Chris Brown right after [he assaulted her],” co-host Brian Kilmeade noted. “A lot of people thought that was a terrible message.”

“I think the message is take the stairs,” he added, as co-host Anna Kooiman giggled.

“The message is, when you’re in an elevator, there’s a camera,” Doocy concluded.

Ha ha! Oh, that’s hilarious, isn’t it? The lesson is that if you’re going to beat the hell out of a woman, don’t do it on camera! That’s certainly worth giggling about, don’t you think?


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  • doublereed

    You know. For the children.

  • troll

    In principle, I have no problems with pitch black humor. However, you do have to be smatter than the typical gashuffers Fox hires.

  • troll

    Smarter, that is. Preview has betrayed me.

  • Alverant

    Are they “joking” because he’s a football player, his victim is a woman, or because his victim is black? Of course multiple answers are allowed. What I don’t get is why she’s going after the media for what happened instead of expecting him to not punch her.

  • culuriel

    The message is, learn something about domestic violence before you do a DV story on national media.

  • scienceavenger

    Being as intellectually generous as I can, I think the joke is that she’s an idiot for staying with him after the incident, and he’s an idiot for getting in front of a camera with his idiot girlfriend, so they are both idiots, and the hosts can relate.

    Funny stuff.

  • John Pieret

    Hint to Faux News … there is a difference between droll and drool.

  • grumpyoldfart

    The poor girl hasn’t realised that control freaks never ease up. The bashings will continue for decades.

  • nosuchthing

    I think that “joke” was in relation to two separate celebrity incidents of domestic violence not that as the title of the link suggest that the gf of the eggballer should learn to take the stairs. The really objectionable jest was made by Doocy in suggesting that people should avoid places with cameras when beating someone up.

  • Loqi

    I wholeheartedly disagree. If you’re going to brutally attack someone, do it in front of a camera so we can lock your ass up without any difficulty in court.

  • Loqi

    @grumpyoldfart #8

    I’d be surprised if it doesn’t get worse. After all, he just lost his multi-million dollar salary. Abusers aren’t exactly known for placing the blame on themselves when they get busted.

  • colnago80

    The poor girl hasn’t realised that control freaks never ease up. The bashings will continue for decades.

    Or until he kills her.

  • colnago80

    Here’s the reich wing’s favorite neurosurgeon claiming that the media are been too hard on Ray Rice.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    A friend of mine was about a week away from his wedding when his fiancee became violent. He pulled the plug and canceled the wedding. Going by everything I’ve learned about domestic violence since, he made the right decision.

  • Gvlgeologist, FCD

    Kilmeade actually came out with a notpology, saying that “we” really, really do care about domestic violence, but little else.

    How hard would it have been to say “I” (not, “we”) “made an entirely inappropriate joke about a very serious subject, and I apologize for it. I realize I was not sensitive to the very serious issue of domestic abuse, and the joke was in very poor taste. It will not happen again.”

    Saying what he did, spread the blame to the people who did NOT make the joke (although they did laugh), and minimized the disgusting insensitivity of the comment.

    But I should expect nothing more from Faux Noise.

  • scienceavenger

    @12 Yeah, because a 200 pound professional athlete who gets tackled regularly by 250-300 pound athletes is so obviously in fear for his life when a 120 pound woman hurls herself at him that he has to punch her in the face.

    I’d love to hear Carson explain why Rice should be treated any differently than any other violent criminal.

  • chilidog99

    Am I the only one who noticed that when he was dragging her out of the ekevator, he kicked her as well?

  • Trebuchet

    Some of this has to be attributed to football culture. (American football, not the other kind.)

    Kids who display some talent are identified at an early age, then groomed all the way through Junior High, High School, and College. Because they’re important to the coach’s success (and salary), they get away with practically anything all the way through school. They don’t have to study, they just get passed along.

    That of course, applies to most sports. But football takes it one step further by teaching and institutionalizing violence. “Hit Harder” is drummed into kids’ heads from an early age. The 20 pounds of protective armor doesn’t help the situation any. Add multi-million dollar salaries for those who make it all the way, coteries of yes-men and hangers on, and you’re begging for trouble. And get it. The biggest difference in the Ray Rice situation is that it’s getting more attention than it has for the past 80 years or so.

  • birgerjohansson

    Trebuchet, your post reminds me of a certain boxing champion and jailbird who raped a young (black) woman. He did time for it, but was forgiven by the boxing community. Then he bit a guy in the ear and was thrown out in the cold. The existence of people like Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade explains this fact.

  • eric


    Some of this has to be attributed to football culture. (American football, not the other kind.)

    I disagree. Humans are extremely good at context-based decision making. We are good at understanding “game, I can tackle someone” vs. “on a street, I can’t tackle that guy.” Under normal circumstances, those context barriers stay firmly in place. To me, the main contributers here seem to be alcohol and misogyny, not the fact that he’s a trained football player (and as an aside, he’s a running back. He may do some blocking but his primary “football cullture” training has been to avoid opponents, not dish out tackles.)

    I’m somewhat surprised Ed didn’t mention the other egregious immorality of this case, which is that the Ravens knew about it in February, and sat on it for 7 months. Remember, he’s already been through the court system on this. He admitted what he did back in March, and cut a deal with the NJ prosecutor back in May. The Ravens didn’t decide to fire him until TMZ released the video publicly. The team (and maybe league officials) really don’t give a crap about what he’s done, they only care about the bad press it’s generated. No TMZ release, and I bet Rice would still be playing.

  • fusilier


    And Tony Dungy* – whom I used to respect as a decent human being – appears to have said that Rice needs to be cut some slack, since some _other_ f’ball star killed a buddy while driving drunk and killing somebody by accident is worse than almost killing your future wife deliberately,

    * for Non-‘Murricans, Dungy is a former NFL coach and current TV commentor. He recently said that Michael Sams should not have been drafted by any team, “to avoid the controversy.”


    James 2:24

  • eric

    @21 – yeah, the contrast really highlights his biases, doesn’t it. Manslaughter? Cut the guy some slack! Domestic assault? Cut the guy some slack! Kiss a man? Oh my gawd, you’re too controversial to play in our League!

  • scienceavenger

    @21 Tony Dungy is a decent human being…that got corrupted by Christianity.

    @18 and @20- As to the contributions of football culture to Ray Rice’s personality deficiencies, I think Trebuchet’s first point is spot on: talented players get treated like gods early on, and are allowed to get away with just about anything as long as they keep bringing the school glory on the gridiron. I saw it growing up over and over in a small Texas town: king of the hill pre-graduation, working at the school as a groundskeeper post-graduation. Rice never had to learn self-control, so he never did.

    As for the influence of the violent aspect of the game, I think Eric has it right: Rice’s position is the hittee, not the hitter. The condemnation that comes from that is the absurdity that his girlfriend posed any threat to him in their altercation. She could probably kick him in the chest as hard as she could and he’d likely not flinch.

  • Dave Maier

    I see what you guys are saying about Rice (a running back) being the “hittee” not the hitter, so his football instincts are not to blame here, but on the other hand, on a lot of plays running backs throw blocks as well. (Just a point about football; I agree that he would not be able to use his football instincts as an excuse here, not that he has that I know of).

  • eric

    My only point is that I don’t think this behavior is a result of being trained to throw blocks and run fast on the field during game time. Could it have to do with being treated like a star? Yes. If that’s what Trebuchet meant by ‘football culture,’ I’m in agreement. But keep in mind that’s not specifically a football thing, many musicians and actors also suffer from ‘fame acquired asshole syndrome.’

  • teawithbertrand

    Ray Rice belongs behind bars. And these three assholes don’t belong on TV.

  • jws1

    Just like to ask: since the NFL is supposed to encourage a culture of violence, why haven’t Dallas fans killed Tony Romo? Y’know, like those peaceful soccer fans who kill players whose mistakes cost their teams games. Still waiting for NFL fans to kill a hated referee, chop his head off and put it on a stick – like those fun-loving soccer fans and their culture of peace have done.