Egyptian Man Demands Gold Back from Jews Who Fled in the Mythical Exodus

There is virtually no evidence outside the Bible that the ancient Jews fled Egypt in an exodus, but one Egyptian political scientist says they fled with gold and treasures and now they must give it all back — with 3000 years worth of interest, of course.

Ammar Ali Hassan told Egypt’s Channel 1 in a July interview translated by MEMRI, “We know for a fact that Moses was in this land. Most of the Jews who left Egypt to wander in the Sinai Desert were the Jews who defied Moses and rejected his preachings.”

Hassan said that , “When they left they stole Egypt’s gold and treasures. Many of the studies on Jewish financial conduct in the history of Egypt, as well as in the history of humanity as a whole…Take, for example the character of Shylock in the “Merchant of Venice,” by Shakespeare. This character is replica of the Jew who lived in Egypt – a merchant and a loan shark, who deposits his profits abroad, instead of investing them in the country.”…

“We demand that they return the treasures they stole from us, including the interest they denied the Egyptian economy for many decades,” he said.

That’s not too bigoted or anything. I can’t get the video to embed, but you can watch it here.

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  • birgerjohansson

    This is a great opportunity for the Icelanders to demand 500 years of rent from the Canadians and Americans.

  • birgerjohansson

    …and the Chinese discovered California and Mexico, so they can also register a claim.

  • Larry

    I think he’d have a better case against the English and French governments who’ve, ummm, acquired, certain artifacts over the years from the Egyptians.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    Does this guy have ANY basis for his accusations, other than a reference to a Shakespeare play? That doesn’t exactly count as “studies on Jewish financial conduct in the history of Egypt, as well as in the history of humanity as a whole.”

    Crap like this only shows the depth and breadth of anti-Jewish bigotry in Egypt.

  • reddiaperbaby1942

    This is a “political scientist”? Do we know anything about him — where he got his PhD from, where he teaches, what research he’s published?

    I wonder if perhaps his definition of the term isn’t a bit different from the usual one.

  • iangould

    Actually if you give any credence to the biblical account, the Jews are probably due reparations for all that slave labor.

  • tubi

    He should start with the British Museum. And then go after the Kushites.

  • arthurski

    Why not claim all the Hebrew back as escaped slaves, while he’s at it ?

    They were the Pharaoh’s property, if I remember Scripture ?

  • Abby Normal

    When I was a young child, at an age where I was starting to show an interest in TV shows other than Sesame Street, my parents sat me down and explained the difference between reality and imagination. They told me I would see things on TV like monsters and killing, lying and steeling. But they impressed upon me that it was just make-believe. Even when the shows were about things that really happen, the way the TV portrays them isn’t real.

    For the next couple years, when I was watching something particularly intense, they would remind me, “It’s just make-believe.” I would roll my eyes. I thought it was silly that they thought I needed to be told. I don’t think they were so silly anymore.

  • Abby Normal

    Or stealing, whichever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/den.wilson d.c.wilson

    He should have to produce the Egyptian records detailing exactly how much gold the Hebrews took with them. Given that there is no evidence that the Exodus ever happened outside of the OT, that should be interesting.

  • eric

    Isn’t the original old kingdom technically in Sudan? I believe at some point the Pharoahs just moved the capital south, and everything kind of went with them. Maybe the Sudanese should ask Egypt for 5,000 years of loan payments.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sergio.lira1 sergiolira

    man best of luck on that little venture im sure the Jews as whole still have the “Jew gold” in necklaces ala South park

  • caseloweraz

    Bah! His claim is moot because the ancestors of present-day Ethiopia (IIRC — or was it Sierra Leone?) deeded the whole world to its inhabitants.

    More realistically, the Egyptian demand is equally nonsensical.

  • Reginald Selkirk
  • raven

    A bit of an underachiever.

    The Native Americans now want their continents back.

    So all the Euro-Americans have to go back to their old homelands. Except that…the Neanderthals want their continent back.

  • busterggi

    Christians should support this, “Render unto Pharaoh”, right?

  • kraut

    “So all the Euro-Americans have to go back to their old homelands. Except that…the Neanderthals want their continent back.”

    Not more nonsensical than the claim for a jewish homeland in Palestine after having been kicked out by the romans a couple of thousand years previously.

    The claim by NA natives at least refers to much more recent history.

  • anubisprime

    “We know for a fact that Moses was in this land”

    Do we…?…extraordinary claims really requires extraordinary evidence, got any, nope, thought not!

    Some folks, mostly right wing, tight assed, mythical drooling fuckwads, do not quite understand the concept of the term ‘FACT’ they tend to confuse it with…’what they want, what they want, what they really really want’ and that desire automatically assumes the mantle of ‘FACT’ in their conclusion.

    Funnily enough apart from a very few quantifiably eccentric, if not wholly barking morons that used to be, or think they are, scientists on the very fringes of the body scientifica, the majority that have redefined ‘FACT’ to support their fatuous insanity, do turn out to be religious nut jobs of one brand or another.

    Still given their dubious and hopeless uphill struggle with reality…that is not really unexpected.

  • thascius

    @12-The original Old Kingdom was centered at Memphis, just south of modern Cairo. Sudan (then called Nubia) was ruled on and off by the Egyptian over the centuries. For a brief period (late 700’s, early 600’s BCE) the Nubians ruled over Egypt, but that was fairly late in ancient Egyptian history, and long after the exodus if it occurred.

  • freemage

    Okay, so, there’s no support for this claim, even in Biblical literature. But what about the depraved indifference of the Jews described in Exodus to the mass slaughter of innocent children? All they had to do was run around the towns, slapping a little blood here and there, and they could’ve saved thousands of innocent lives–and this is by their own text. I mean, sure, I suppose in a society where everyone in the family is considered Daddy’s ‘property’, we can’t really expect Moses & co. to care about sparing Pharoah’s kid, and probably a few government ministers and the like (not to mention the slave-pit overlords). Sure, screw those guys. But some farmer who never even owned a slave, whose sole hope for continuing the family line is his heir? Why should HIS kid die because of palace politics?

  • Dave, ex-Kwisatz Haderach

    In related news, I hear he also intends to file suit against Indiana Jones for stealing the Ark of the Covenant from Egypt.

  • arthurski

    Seems a clear-cut case to me: The Hebrew fled with the Pharaoh’s gold, crossed the Panama canal, and about 40 years later, they used that stolen gold to cast a Golden Calf statue.

    Produce the idol, and you’re golden. So to speak.

  • dugglebogey

    Wait, a fictional character in a shakespeare play stole something, and they want restitution?

  • Chiroptera

    I have to admit: if a contemprorary Egyptian can produce actual, verifiable documentation that a specifically identified contemporary Jew’s ancestor stole from his ancestor and can produce a list of the items stolen…I’d be willing to let him make his case in court.

  • Chiroptera

    Oh, and by the way, I can assume that Hassan is Muslim? ‘Cause even according to Islamic teachings, the Jews were acting according to the commands given by Allah to his prophet Moses.

  • yoav

    freemage #21

    Okay, so, there’s no support for this claim, even in Biblical literature.

    Actually Exodus 12 :“35 And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment. 36 And the LORD gave the people favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent unto them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians.”

    Could be considered support of this claim (if he could actually produce any supporting evidence that it is a reliable source, I won’t be holding my breath). One more example of this famous biblical morality we’ve been hearing about.

    As for the marking of the doors, you would think an all knowing mass murderer would be able to tell whose house is which without requiring a cheat sheet.

  • mistertwo

    @27 freemage

    Oh, well, Yahweh knew, of course, but his death angel needed a sign, dontchaknow? Death angels aren’t omniscient.

  • yoav

    @ mistertwo #28

    actually according to Exodus 12

    12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

    23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

    29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

    It’s this kind of personal attention to mass murder that make YHWE such a special galactic tyrant.

  • gertzedek

    Sure thing, guys! Of course, if you’re going to be asserting the historicity of the Exodus, I’m sure you won’t mind if we deduct the four hundred years of back wages from the mass slavery also prominently featured in that story. If that’s OK, just get us an itemized receipt for everything that’s missing, and we’ll get back to you in another three thousand years!

  • hexidecima

    mmm, I always wondered about this. We have the story the god of the Israelites mind controlling the Egyptians to force them to give up their treasure. Then the Israelites trooped off by the hundreds of thousands into somewhere, and made a gold statue with it. So, heck, if the Muslims want to play pretend with the Jews that they have magical best friends, I say let them fight it out.

  • iangould

    Actually if he can find a defendant who is prepared to stipulate that the Biblical account is correct he may have a colorable case

    (See the lawsuit in which the claimant complained the defendant had sold them a haunted house. Since both parties accepted the house was haunted the Judge proceeded on the basis that for the purposes of the case the house was on fact haunted.)

  • arthurski

    Nice that THE LORD acknowledges the egyptian gods; are they drinking buddies in their abode avove the clouds ?

  • itinerant

    He may be the guy who wrote “Selected Vitamins and Essential Elements in Meat from Semi-Domesticated Reindeer (Rangifer tarandus tarandus L.) in Mid- and Northern Norway: Geographical Variations and Effect of Animal Population Density”. Seems as relevant as the other sources he gives.

  • kraut

    @itinerant

    I have no idea what are you talking about except that you are exposing your utter cluelessness and contempt for everything not in the purview of your narrow mindedness. Amazing what they let post here.

    Otherwise you might have to consider that Reindeer meat is a source in subarctic environments, making it useful to know which vitamins and essential elements are contained under what conditions.

    If you do not understand something – do some research before mouthing stupid shit.

    I do not do you call a stupid git because that would be frowned upon here.

  • lorn

    Would it be okay if the Jews took advantage of their ‘right of return’ and ask for back rent on the homes and land occupied after they left?

  • kraut

    “and ask for back rent on the homes and land occupied after they left?”

    You are a bit late to the nonsense. I would think by the same token that North American Natives have every right to demand appropriate compensation (not some lousy several times over broken treaties) from the Government to the extend of hundreds of billions or several trillions for mineral extraction, spoilage of land, damage to water resources, rent for land for housing, infrastructure etc. etc., including cumulative interest from the time the treaties were signed under duress.

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