Gun Range Owner Pledges to Violate Civil Rights Act

Jan Morgan is a conservative blogger who owns the Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas. She recently decided to violate the Civil Rights Act by banning Muslims from her business. I’m sure you’ll be shocked to find out what a complete hypocrite she is about the whole thing.

In a post on her website, Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range owner Jan Morgan explained why she had decided to ban all Muslims.

“This is not a coffee and donut shop. This is a live fire indoor shooting range,” she wrote. “In the range, people are shooting guns in close proximity to each other, so my patrons depend on me and my discretion regarding who I allow to shoot beside them. One mistake in judgement on my part could cost innocent people their lives.”…

“Two muslims walked in to my range last week with allah akbar ring tone and message alert tones on their smart phones. They spoke very little english, one did not have proof of U.S. citizenship, yet they wanted to rent and shoot guns,” she wrote. “Their behavior was so strange, it was unnerving to my patrons. No one would enter the range to shoot while they were there. Some of my customers left.”

Morgan argued that her federal firearms license gave her the discretion to deny service to people “if I sense an issue with their mental state.”

She agreed that not all Muslims were terrorists, but that it was impossible to tell which one were so all of them had to be banned.

Really? So your argument is that a business has to be responsible in guarding the safety of their customers because it’s impossible for them to know which people carrying guns might be good guys and which might be bad guys? I can buy that. But she doesn’t really mean this when it comes to anyone other than Muslims. In fact, she’s boycotting Target because they asked their customers not to carry guns into their stores (didn’t ban it, just asked them not to).

I don’t shop Target anymore because they favor criminals over law abiding citizens and seem to think, based on their new policy, that disarming law abiding citizens for the criminals is a way to create a “family friendly” environment..

But as you said yourself, Jan, a business owner has no way of knowing which gun-toting person in their stores is a good guy and which is a bad guy. The difference, though, is that all they did was ask people not to bring guns, which prompted your boycott. You, on the other hand, are blatantly violating the Civil Rights Act by discriminating on the basis of religion. I suspect that may be why you pulled down that blog post. I’m guessing your lawyer gave you a call.

Mind you, Christian bad guys with guns have committed atrocities in this country far more often than Muslim bad guys with guns. There have been a handful of bombings and attempted bombings by Muslim terrorists, but not much in the way of gun violence. Christian terrorists, on the other hand, have murdered lots of people with guns. But if any business ever said that they would ban Christians carrying guns, this woman would flip the fuck out and start screaming TYRANNY!

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  • Nomad

    What the hell is an allah akbar ringtone? Is she seriously saying that two Muslims walked into her place and within minutes both of them had their phones ring, and they played “allah akbar” for a ring tone AND then they received text messages?

    It makes me wonder how much of the rest of the story is a complete fiction.

  • Chiroptera

    …They spoke very little english, one did not have proof of U.S. citizenship….

    Do you really need to speak English and have proof of citizenship to fire a gun? Is that the law? Or the general policy of this gun range? Or just an extra requirement for people who look a little too Islamy?

  • gshelley

    If one didn’t have proof of US citizenship, does that mean the other did? They carried their US passport of naturalization certificate with them? Or does the state ID in Arkansas say if a person is a citizen or not?

  • Chiroptera

    She agreed that not all Muslims were terrorists, but that it was impossible to tell which one were…

    I should also point out that the same can be said about white Crackers.

    …so all of them had to be banned.

    To quote Hamlet, ban anyone who might be a terrorist and who shall be left to fire a gun?

  • busterggi

    Of course they were Muslim terrorists. She couldn’t understand what they were saying so they were talking Muslim. One of them didn’t have his citizenship papers and all Chrsitians carry theirs you know. And talk about strange behavior, why they wanted guns and they weren’t carrying bibles when everyone knows they go together!

  • Larry

    To be fair, they probably had Korans and prayer rugs which would have made it much easier to decide that they were terrorists except they dropped them in the desert when they crossed the border from Mexico.

  • eric

    Do you really need to speak English and have proof of citizenship to fire a gun? Is that the law?

    Well, that depends…are you swarthy?

  • scienceavenger

    I don’t shop Target anymore because they favor criminals over law abiding citizens and seem to think, based on their new policy, that disarming law abiding citizens for the criminals is a way to create a “family friendly” environment..

    The fundamental flaw in her worldview is this notion that we are all on one side or the other of the criminal/citizen line, which is sheer nonsense. I’d love to hear people who spout this rubbish challenged to define their terms and/or categorize some real-life complex people instead of the easy simplistic ones that exist in their heads. How many crimes must one commit before one merits the “criminal” label. What’s the statute of limitations on that and why? Do blue collar crimes count the same as white collar ones? Is Michael Vick a criminal? How about OJ? Jamie Diamond? The real world is a complicated place with complicated people.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    Nomad “What the hell is an allah akbar ringtone?”

    “It’s a trap!”

  • erichoug

    So a few months ago, I took one of my Muslim co-workers to shoot at Hot Wells here in Houston. Keep in mind that this guy is probably the nicest, kindest person you could ever meet but he definitly looks Muslim. When we got to the range, he got a bit nervous because Hot Wells is a fairly redneck range.

    ” Are you sure they’ll let a Muslim shoot here?”

    “Of course, they assume you’ve had training.”

    He thought that was hilarious.

  • http://timgueguen.blogspot.com timgueguen

    I wonder if these guys were actually Muslims. I doubt she could tell the difference between a South Asian Muslim, Hindu, or Sikh. And the “allah akbar ringtone” was probably some bit of non-Western pop music.

  • jba55

    “Christian bad guys with guns have committed atrocities in this country far more often than Muslim bad guys with guns”

    Is there a reputable place one can go for a list of Christian terrorist attacks in the US? I would love to be able to point certain relatives of mine to them come Thanksgiving/Christmas.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    @jba55:

    “Is there a reputable place one can go for a list of Christian terrorist attacks in the US?”

    Take any list of 100 or more such incidents and apply a multiplier of .97+/- and you’ll be in the right neighborhood, statistically.

  • busterggi
  • caseloweraz

    jba55: Is there a reputable place one can go for a list of Christian terrorist attacks in the US? I would love to be able to point certain relatives of mine to them come Thanksgiving/Christmas.

    I don’t know of a comprehensive list. But Salon has what it calls The 10 worst examples of Christian or far-right terrorism.

    This SPLC report might also be useful.

  • raven

    “Is there a reputable place one can go for a list of Christian terrorist attacks in the US?”

    No.

    Among other problems, xian terrorism is very rarely called…xian terrorism. The fundie rightwing politicians all go bonkers when someone does that. Like the DHS/FBI.

    But it isn’t hard to piece together with Google and Wikipedia. The SPLC also keeps a lot of data.

    Christian terrorism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

    Jump to United States – [edit]. See also: Anti-abortion violence in the United States and Ku Klux Klan. Ku Klux Klan with a burning cross. The End.

    Domestic terrorism in the United States – Wikipedia, the free …

    en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States

    Domestic terrorism in the United States between 1980 and 2000 consisted of … as Christian terrorism; it is also associated with opposition to women’s rights.

    ‎Definitions of domestic terrorism – ‎Anti-abortion violence – ‎Eco-terrorism

    10 of the Worst Terror Attacks by Extreme Christians and Far …

    www. alternet.org/…/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-ri…

    Jul 24, 2013 – Yet many of the terrorist attacks in the United States have been carried out by people who had long histories of networking with other terrorists.,/blockquote>

    Here is a start. But I don’t know why you would want to “point certain relatives” to them. Fundies are immune to facts and you are just going to start a fight that goes nowhere. I stopped doing that with some of my relatives 3 decades ago.

  • raven

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2013/04/30/muslim-terrorism-vs-right-wing-domestic-terrorism/

    Muslim Terrorism vs. Right Wing Domestic Terrorism

    Quote New America Foundation:

    The weapons of mass destruction charges filed against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev may sound like a big deal. However, the federal WMD statute is sufficiently broad that it has been used against at least 25 defendants since 9/11, covering all kinds of destructive devices, from grenades and car bombs to theunderwear bomb and the planes hijacked on 9/11. There have been no Islamist plots involving what we commonly know as WMD—biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons. However, according to the New America Foundation data, the only terror suspects who have recently obtained biological or chemical weapons such as anthrax and cyanide were right-wing extremists.

    Xian terrorism is occasionally discussed on FTBs.

    FWIW, the two terrorist attacks nearest my house were both…by xian terrorists.

  • Chiroptera

    “… it was unnerving to my patrons. No one would enter the range to shoot while they were there. Some of my customers left.”

    Maybe what was unnerving to the patrons was seeing the owner of the shop in an argument with potential customers?

  • dingojack

    I see a $30,000 fine in this women’s near future…..

    :) Dingo

  • dingojack

    Anyone know some litigious Sikhs with Bollywood ringtones, willing to risk life-and-limb to travel to a gun range in Hot Springs, Arkansas?

    😉 Dingo

  • denada

    “one did not have proof of U.S. citizenship”

    Because all Arkansas gun owners believe that they should always carry their Federal Government papers around at all times.

  • anubisprime

    It is presumed that missy is a good upstanding xtian…

    Her attitude is in perfect harmony with that delusion and the rampant bigotry it promotes.

    She agreed that not all Muslims were terrorists, but that it was impossible to tell which one were so all of them had to be banned.

    An echo of …

    ‘Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius’ maybe…

    Xtians seem overtly fond of this twisted zero sum game, they seem to gravitate towards that position as if it is some righteous default setting.

  • dingojack

    Timothy McVeigh was a member of the U.S. Army, of course not all U.S. Military personnel are terrorists, but since it’s impossible to tell….

    @@

    Dingo

  • anubisprime

    dingojack @ 23

    And to take the ‘analogy’ to its inevitable conclusion…

    Some xtians murder doctors and nurses…it is impossible to know the demented ones therefore it is wise to ban all xtians from polite society then risk their evil ways in society…it is what jeebus would want!

  • dingojack

    anubisprime – weren’t Timothy McVeigh, Theodore Kaczynski, David Coleman Headley and the rest all humans

    Hmm time to shut the gun range down, get into close orbit and nuke it from space (it’s the only way to be sure).

    @@

    Dingo

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2XG9CnOj8 Olav

    Dingojack #23:

    of course not all U.S. Military personnel are terrorists,

    They aren’t?

  • abb3w

    She’s since pulled the column from her website.

    On the other hand, checking the letter of Title II, it looks like gun ranges may not be commerce covered under the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964.

  • abb3w

    Whoops… post back up, now.

  • abb3w

    Hm. The column appears to have been extensively revised — compare that version from 5PM on Sept 29th to this from today (with an not found page archived between).

    She incidentally appears to have lost the ability to count — 1,2,3,4,4,6….

  • Pierce R. Butler

    One mistake in judgement on my part could cost innocent people their lives.

    Quite so. She should start by forbidding 9-year-old girls, regardless of religion, from shooting automatics.

  • http://cheapsignals.blogspot.com Gretchen

    Do you really need to speak English and have proof of citizenship to fire a gun? Is that the law?

    I don’t know what the law says, but I’d say you need to be able to read English to shoot at a firing range, at least. And that’s because there’s a big ol’ list of regulations that you need to read and agree to– the one where I used to go in Texas had an item near the bottom of the list which said something like “Tell the clerk that Cheers is a good TV show.” Presumably if you didn’t look up and do just that, or at least say something about it, your agreement to the regulations would not be considered valid and you wouldn’t be allowed to shoot.

  • http://polrant@blogspot.com democommie

    ” Presumably if you didn’t look up and do just that, or at least say something about it, your agreement to the regulations would not be considered valid and you wouldn’t be allowed to shoot.”

    Well, that just sounds ridiculous, Gretchen–unless the people were SWM* or SWB** or SWA*** or….

    * Shooting While Muslim

    * * Shooting While Black

    *** Shooting While Atheist