Wingnut on Wingnut Crime: LeClaire vs Cameron

Jennifer LeClaire, editor of Charisma magazine, went on an American Family Association radio show and declared that Halloween is a “very demonic, very evil” holiday and Christians should avoid it. But wait, didn’t Kirk Cameron just tell us that Halloween is a Christian holiday and Christians should be all over it? How amusing.


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  • tbp1

    Christians can’t agree with other Christians even about essential doctrine. For one glaring example, contrast Arminianism with Calvinism (and you might thrown Universalism into the mix, although there aren’t very many Universalists). Utterly incompatible views, all derived from the same Scripture. How can they be expected to agree about peripheral points?

  • dono

    Hey, Jennifer–Here’s a simple way to clear up your misconception that Halloween is a demonic and evil holiday. Take your kids trick-or-treating. Have fun helping them pick out costumes and dressing up. Enjoy walking around the neighborhood with them and share in their joy of collecting candy. The more fun you have in life, the less insanity you’ll believe.

  • dingojack

    Funny — she doesn’t look Malaysian


  • HappyHead

    Oh glob, I’m (only partially!) agreeing with Kirk Cameron in an argument… somebody shoot me.

    Christians (well, mostly Catholics, especially the Irish ones) totally adopted Halloween as one of their own celebrations to co-opt the existing pagan celebrations, similarly to what they did with Easter and Christmas, so in the sense that those two are “Christian” holidays, so is Halloween.

  • Mike Morris

    It isn’t about faith, just fear.

    dono @#2 is right. Enjoy what you can when you can. As the cliche says, it all sips by in the blink of an eye.

  • jnorris

    tbp1, at #1, it is unbelievable the way True Christians ™ disagree about basic dogma and scripture. It’s as if the Holy Ghost is dysfunctional or asleep or something.

  • anubisprime

    Some weapons grade IQ over there in the wingnuts corner…this might get tricky!gheys his

  • anubisprime

    anubisprime @ 7

    this might get tricky!gheys his

    Weird format glitches happening more often these days…must be demons!

    Something the preview fails to see but which manifests when posted!

    It lifts old cut ‘n’ paste snippets from the buffer and slips them in automatically!

    As I have previously mentioned an edit function would be a grand addition to the site!

  • Modusoperandi

    Look, all us Christians can agree on the basics, like tax cuts and deregulation and no labor rights and, from homos to Muslins to Athiestss to uteruses, no minority rights. The Holy Ghost is crystal clear on those points. It’s after that that He gets mumbly.

  • petemoulton

    Modus, I’m astonished that you forgot guns!

  • Modusoperandi

    petemoulton “Modus, I’m astonished that you forgot guns!”

    I didn’t forget them. Guns are so foundational that they’re assumed. Without guns, you see, you can’t protect your rights or prevent other people from exercising theirs.

  • busterggi

    Simple test – if the holiday tradition is fun then it pagan & evii, if its dreary &/or guilt-inducing then its Judeo-Christain.

  • Die Anyway

    I think they have it exactly right. Make your case for whether it’s right or wrong. Then, if your church is against it…don’t do it, if your church is for it…go ahead and do it.

    But most importantly, leave the rest of us to make our own decision on what we celebrate. Don’t try to use the big stick of government to force everyone to live by your church’s decision.

  • dingojack

    “Do you know what it’s like for two people to live in the same house as if they were in different parts of the world? Mentally, she’s always in some drizzly kirk of her own inheriting: and I’m in some Doric temple – clouds tearing through pillars – eagles bearing prophecies out of the sky…”

    Martin Dysart – Equus. Peter Shaffer