Wiles Wants to Apologize to Veterans for Gay Marriage

Goofy-ass right wing radio show host Rick Wiles delivered a melodramatic soliloquy on his show on Veterans Day, telling his listeners how terrible he feels for those who fought in past wars because we now allow gay people to get married in some states. Silly rabbit, coherent connections are for intelligent people.

It’s an appropriate time, Veterans Day. My heart is so broken over the immorality of this nation and the hedonistic mindset of so many people in this country. I want to go to Arlington Cemetery and go to grave to gravesite and say to those fallen soldiers, I’m sorry, we threw it away. We threw it away, you died for us, we threw it away. I want to go to those gravesites and apologize to those soldiers that we’re such a bunch of lazy, hedonistic, self-serving people in this country today that we threw away what they fought and died for. It sickens me, it sickens me that men bled on battlefields, their life poured out of them, so we would be free, so we would have a decent nation. Anybody going to tell me that the men who died in World War II were fighting for same-sex marriage? Are you really going to tell me that’s why they risked their lives and died?

I know, how horrible for the ghosts of WW2 vets that we now allow gay people to get married. And we no longer lynch black people or force them to use different drinking fountains. I feel so bad for them. Oh, and of course: Nazis!

The End Times broadcaster also alleged that God told him that Nazism and anti-Christian persecution are coming to America, informing him “that there would be a day that there would be a Nazi power rising up in the United States of America to snuff out the Gospel, to take over the church of Jesus Christ.”

“I’m saying it is here now, in 2014, this is a Nazi spirit that’s in the United States of America and thousands of churches are intimidated by it, frightened by it and being silent as this monster rises up,” he said.

The only thing they don’t recognize as Nazis are actual Nazis.

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  • grumpyoldfart

    I was talking to god just the other day and he said he hates ‘yes-men’. He said Rick Wiles is going straight to hell.

    (And that is god talking, not me!)

  • dhall

    Originally, the day was Armistice Day for the end of WWI, and therefore for WWI vets, not WWII vets . . . but yeah, does the asshole really think that American people died in combat in order to prevent fellow Americans from exercising their rights and liberties?* And does he really think that historically, there have never been any gays in the armed forces? I hate to think of how many boneheads believe this sort of crap, and how many of them vote and have children.

    *Obviously, the US Civil War is an exception, although since the Southerners considered themselves no longer US citizens, maybe not.

  • Georgia Sam

    Dear Rick: Speaking as a veteran, no apology is needed for America’s growing acceptance of marriage equality. If you’re going to apologize to dead people in a military cemetery, you should apologize to the gay heroes whose sexual orientation was a secret they literally carried to their graves. And while you’re at it, apologize to those still living who served honorably but were kicked out of the military for being gay.

  • John Pieret

    Along with Georgia Sam, I too am a vet. I served in the Army’s Judge Advocate Corps and saw otherwise honorable service people kicked out because they were gay. You are not honoring vets, you are spitting on the graves of many heroes!

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    I didn’t fight and die over in Vietnam just to have The Gays queer up marriage! It’s “Hua!” not “Homo!”

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    I’m going to Arlington to apologize for the existence of Rick Wiles.

  • jeevmon

    Let me guess – the solution is a prolonged period where the Republicans control everything and the Democrats cease to exist as a party. Prolonged one-party rule with dissent stifled and a fetishization of the military as the font of all noble values. Nothing at all like fascism.

  • theguy

    I suppose Wiles really does need to apologize – for supporting torture, Guantanamo, for sending 4500 troops to die in Iraq for a lie.

    But nooooo… gay marriage is somehow a threat to Dipshit’s and his “we want to be free, we want to be decent.” I imagine that definition of “decent” would abrogate any freedom that Wile’s doesn’t like.

  • sugarfrosted

    My recently remarried mother would like to apologize for protecting people like Wiles with her military service.

  • steve84

    All part of the ridiculous, but widespread narrative that all freedoms come from solely from the military, that you need to thank veterans for everything you do, and that nothing would be possible without someone having “died for you”.

  • dingojack

    I’m sure Wiles (and his RWNJ ilk) agree wholeheartedly with “peace comes from the barrel of a gun” (until they find out who said it).



  • sugarfrosted

    @10, I admit that. Basically that was a more polite version of “FUCK YOU RICK WILES.”

  • sugarfrosted

    @10 Additionally, that’s what he thinks the military does.

  • dingojack

    steve84 (#10) – A consequence of the confluence of Christian dogma with 2nd amendment paraphilia?


  • steve84

    That mindset isn’t confined to right wing loons or Christian fanatics. Even some otherwise decent people really think that you only have freedom of speech because of the military, for example. It’s part of the all around military and veteran worship in the US.

  • dingojack

    From the inside I’d guess, it’s difficult to assess just how saturated US culture is in a Christian ethos. While surveys and censuses show a large (>70%) Christian majority (and falling), the actual reach is probably ten or fifteen percentage points higher.

    For some inexplicable reason, while the rest of the world has moved away from religion being important in, say, the political sphere by the early 20th century, America has clung onto religion strongly into the 21st century.

    The 2nd amendment, similarly, has held on (perhaps nourished by the myth of the ‘rugged individualist’ repeated in Westerns, police shows and the like). Possibly the destruction of the World Wars drove Europe into a more collectivist mind-set (‘We’re all in this together’), rather than an individualist route. (Australia is another story altogether).

    At least, that’s my theory I’d be interested to here any other views on the subject. I find it both fascinating and perplexing.


  • sabrekgb

    “men bled on battlefields…so we would be free”

    Yeah, because allowing more people to marry the person they love is the antithesis of freedom…

    Don’t apologize to graves; apologize to living veterans…so we can tell you to go fuck your bigoted self.

  • sabrekgb

    @11 dingojack

    “until they find out who said it”

    Are you misquoting Mao? Unless i am mistaken, the quote is, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”.

    Is there someone else you mean that I am unaware of?

  • sabrekgb

    @15 Steve84

    It’s a stretch…but it’s not an idea entirely devoid of merit. At the bottom of it all, military force is the principal guarantee of a state against those who would take it over. In that sense, the military, being the physical defense mechanism of the country, does in fact safeguard “freedom” (whatever that happens to mean) for the inhabitants…at least against external threats from other states.

    Has that been used to defend the U.S. against direct attack/threat recently? Nah. But it’s still a thing…kinda. Definitely agree that the meme is overblown, and like most things, way too simplified, but it’s not completely wrong. It is, of course, not the sole reason, as i think you meant @10, but it’s definitely important.

  • dingojack

    sabrekgb – Meh, I don’t think either of us are experts in Mandarin.

    Probably the last (creditable) time the US was under direct military threat was during the Eighties.

    The more likely (acute) threat now is terrorism, the more permanent threats of insurrection, coup or direct invasion are extremely remote, however threats from the government restricting freedoms in the name of security (as we have seen) are far more creditable.

    In the lattermost case it’s not armies nor guns that protect people, it’s mass protest that protects people.

    Perhaps a little ‘people worship’ is what is needed?


  • Martin, heading for geezerhood

    @Dingojack #20:

    The USA has only been under direct military threat twice…the first during its struggle for independence and the second during the civil war.

    The nuclear standoff of the 50s thru the 80s was never going to come to an exchange of warheads…the USA, Soviets and Chinese are too smart to start a war of mutual desctruction.

    Its recent war with Japan and the tussles with the Soviet Empire, the USA and each other’s cat’s paws were only about spheres of influence.

  • dingojack

    “The nuclear standoff of the 50s thru the 80s was never going to come to an exchange of warheads…the USA, Soviets and Chinese are too smart to start a war of mutual desctruction. ”

    You think? Aww, how adorably naïve. [It almost hurts to puncture it]