Kris Kobach is the right wing extremist secretary of state in Kansas. He’s especially big on being anti-immigration and anti-non-existent voter fraud. On his radio show, he agreed with a caller that Latino people could take over the country and engage in ethnic cleansing of white people.
Kobach made his remarks in response to a caller who asked, “What happens, if you know your history, when one culture or one race or one religion overwhelms another culture or race?”
Claiming that immigrant rights groups are “calling for the return of the Spanish territory, which could be almost half of the United States,” the caller warned, “When one race or culture overwhelms another culture, they run them out or they kill them. And it’s a bigger issue than just being Democrats. And they know in numbers, once the numbers are so bad, they can pretty much do whatever they want to do.”
“What protects us in America from any kind of ethnic cleansing is the rule of law, of course,” Kobach responded. “And the rule of law used to be unassailable, used to be taken for granted in America. And now, of course, we have a president who disregards the law when it suits his interests. So, while I normally would answer that by saying, ‘Steve, of course we have the rule of law, that could never happen in America,’ I wonder what could happen. I still don’t think it’s going to happen in America, but I have to admit, things are strange and they are happening.”
How about Abraham Lincoln unilaterally suspending habeas corpus? That was a banner time for the rule of law, wasn’t it? We could also mention the Espionage Act, which destroyed the First Amendment for anyone protesting a war for decades (and is still being used to silence whistleblowers exposing government misconduct). And the internment of Japanese-Americans. And Gitmo. And I don’t remember a peep out of Kobach about the Bush torture regime, which violated not only the UN Convention Against Torture — again, part of the supreme law of the land under the Constitution — but also federal statutory law. Or about the Bush illegal surveillance apparatus, which continues to this day and is in blatant violation of the 4th Amendment.
The rule of law is, sadly, mostly a legal fiction. Does Kobach know that or is he just lying? Does it really matter?