Staver: The Gay is a Communist Plot to Destroy America

Mat Staver, the dumbest lawyer in America not named Larry Klayman, says that homosexuality is all part of a communist plot to destroy America. He presents no evidence for this, of course. One has to wonder what communists he’s referring to. Kim Jung-un?

When a caller cited Cleon Skousen’s 1956 book “The Naked Communist” to claim that homosexuality is part of a communist endeavor “to soften America for the final takeover,” Staver completely agreed: “Yes, Skousen has a lot of good writings. In fact, he mentioned that many years ago and here’s where we are today.”

“Same-sex marriage is the beginning of the end of western civilization,” he said. “It really is, it’s that serious.”

Staver said leaders in countries like Peru and Jamaica have told them that Obama is an “interventionist” “with regards to immoral issues,” warning that the president is “using our State Department dollars and the ambassadors that he’s appointed to promote abortion and same-sex marriage.”

He also decried America’s “shameful” opposition to Jamaica’s ban on homosexuality.

Isn’t it interesting that the Christian right bigots claim that they’re just trying to stop same-sex marriage and the destruction of “religious liberty” (as they dishonestly define it, of course), yet they’re always defending laws around the world that throw gay people in prison or even put them to death. It’s almost like they’re hiding their real agenda or something.

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  • blf

    It must be true! Nothing else can explain Ed’s <borkquote>ing!

  • dingojack

    “ is the beginning of the end of western civilization,” he said. “It really is, it’s that serious.”


  • dingojack

    borked the ‘borkquoting’. Ha ha.


  • some bastard on the internet

    “Same-sex marriage is the beginning of the end of western civilization,” he said. “It really is, it’s that serious.”

    Which is just the latest in the series of things that began the end of western civilization, starting with Abolition a couple of centuries ago, which was followed by women’s suffrage, civil rights, and now same-sex marriage.

    Jeezus, if America’s enemies have taken this long just to begin their Ultimate-Evil-Plan, we probably don’t have much to worry about for centuries to come.

  • Bronze Dog

    I find it easier to make sense of wingnut homophobia if you interpret their stance as the old guard complaining about modern people redefining marriage as an equal, consensual partnership between people who love each other instead of the old chattel system for the purpose of money, status, or biological imperatives.

    Yes, it’s a cartoonishly evil characterization. Unfortunately, I can’t think of a charitable one that holds up to scrutiny thanks to all the hypocrisy, inconsistency, and special pleading when they try to defend their bigotry.

  • sigurd jorsalfar

    And it would have worked, too, if it weren’t for you meddling Christians!

  • John Pieret

    Bronze Dog:

    I don’t think it is a cartoonishly evil characterization at all. Some of them have even admitted it, saying that the real problem goes back to contraception, sex out-of-marriage and the idea that it isn’t a woman’s only role to be a baby factory and unpaid household help.

  • raven

    For the Mat Stavers, the commie takeover started wth the Enlightenment.

    The peasants won the right to vote and developed the idea of modern democracy. This meant no one had to pay attention to people like Mat Staver any more simply because they had power and claimed to be god’s bestest buddy.

  • dingojack

    Bronze Dog — to be cartoonish you’d have to read the Staver quote in the voice of Scooby-Doo.


  • Olav


    One has to wonder what communists he’s referring to. Kim Jung-un?

    Not a communist. But you knew that.

  • Al Dente

    One has to wonder what communists he’s referring to. Kim Jung-un?

    Staver’s buddy Clousen, while not actually a member of the John Birch Society, agreed with JBS founder Robert Welch that Dwight Eisenhower was a Communist. I don’t know about Staver but Clousen considered anyone to the left of himself to be a Communist or Communist sympathizer.

  • Marcus Ranum

    Wasn’t there an old joke that the only communists left in the world were in the political science department in some ivy league school or other?

  • abb3w

    @0, Ed Brayton

    He presents no evidence for this, of course.

    Well, kinda. He alludes to Cleon Skousen, who apparently asserted such a connection in his book The Naked Communist. (Possibly not the original 1958 edition, but in a part read into the Congressional Record.) Of course, Skousen’s assertion is bare and unsupported; but that more exactly leaves Staver’s “evidence” as hearsay conveyed via a dubious source.