Fischer: We Torture Because of ‘Christian Principles’

Bryan Fischer continues to insist that what we did to so many detainees was not torture — bet it would be torture if a Muslim did it — and he goes even further, saying that they had no legal rights at all. In fact, the only reason we treated them as well as we did is because of our “Christian principles.”

As Fischer explained, foreign terrorism suspects have no constitutional rights since they are not U.S. citizens, nor do they have any rights under the Geneva Conventions, which means that the U.S. faces no legal prohibition against torturing them.

“They have absolutely no legal rights that they can claim anywhere,” Fischer said. “So whatever treatment we give them, if there is any mercy involved in it, they have no right to that; that is simply because we are a merciful people who are driven by Christian principles.”

Yes, of course. We waterboarded people, anally raped them and all that because of our “Christian principles.” Who would Jesus torture? I mean, other than everyone who doesn’t believe in him, for all eternity.

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  • http://withinthismind.com/ WithinThisMind

    “you shall know them by their love’

  • dugglebogey

    We don’t* torture because of American principles.

    *I guess i have to say “shouldn’t” now. Fuck.

  • Alverant

    Everyone within the borders of the USA has rights, even criminals and non-citizens. They are also entitled to be treated humanly.

  • http://www.thelosersleague.com theschwa

    As Fischer explained, foreign terrorism suspects have no constitutional rights since they are not U.S. citizens, nor do they have any rights under the Geneva Conventions, which means that the U.S. faces no legal prohibition against torturing them.

    AH, a stickler for rules and laws. If I recall my NT correctly, it was the pharisees who know the law inside and out, and Jesus loved them more than all the others.

  • Reginald Selkirk

    He makes a great case against Christianity.

  • dingojack

    Alverant – add Law to the long list of ‘Shit Which Bryan Fischer Knows Nothing’.

    So Bryan, Jesus wasn’t a natural (or naturalised) Roman citizen, so crucifying him was perfect fine, right?

    Dingo

  • Reginald Selkirk

    But dentist/creationist Don McLeroy insists that God gave us human rights. maybe that includes the right to be tortured…

  • dingojack

    And the UN convention Against Torture (signed by St. Ronnie of Altzheimers himself)? What about that Bryan? Answer me that.

    Dingo

  • Sastra

    Who would Jesus torture? I mean, other than everyone who doesn’t believe in him, for all eternity.

    I recently read a Christian argument against the existence of an eternal fiery hell for the damned. Jesus only meant to warn the people of Jerusalem about the upcoming destruction of the temple and scholarship reveals that the loving, loving God of the Bible had a long history of physically destroying cities and people who failed to worship Him enough or in the right way. That’s what that language means. So now it’s all good.

    Apparently Jesus would be just fine with physical, earthly torture as long as it involved bringing God’s people back to their senses … or it didn’t involve this particular, vitally important, all-consuming issue.

    At any rate, a Christian “is forbidden to become enslaved to human tradition, secular or Christian” so now all bets are off and Christianity means only what Christians think it means as long as they’re sure they’re doubting themselves but trusting God. So Jesus was both crying and holding the hands of the suspected terrorists at the same time He was manfully helping the CIA agents hold their heads under water. It’s like He’s everywhere.

  • Michael Heath

    Our use of torture is contra American ideals. Our use of torture feebly emulates far more evil behavior by the Christian god as asserted in the Bible.

  • Andrew Reid

    But I thought human rights didn’t come from the government, they came from God.

    I guess expecting intellectual consistency from right-wing fundamentalists is asking a bit too much.

  • Pianoman, Church of the Golden Retriever

    C’mon, Ed. He’s referring to the same Christian principles as the ones used to condone slavery, stop women from voting, lynching blacks, anti-semitism, fighting against civil rights, interracial marriage, gay rights and islamophobia.

  • theguy

    @12

    Don’t forget genocide, which Fischsticks has defended before.

    Geez, I show more mercy when playing Grand Theft Auto.

  • laurentweppe

    As Fischer explained, foreign terrorism suspects have no constitutional rights since they are not U.S. citizens, nor do they have any rights under the Geneva Conventions, which means that the U.S. faces no legal prohibition against torturing them.

    Funny that: I remember a large chunk of the Christian Bible being about how fucking sinful the Pharisees’ self-serving fetichizing of written law is.

  • thinkingman

    I think out founding fathers once said something like “we hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men are created equal and they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

    Or, shorter Fischer “fuck the founding fathers”