Donohue Again Blames Murder Victims Who Offend the Religious

Bill Donohue may have been hammered even by many of his fellow right-wing Catholics for blaming the cartoonists and writers from Charlie Hebdo, but he’s not backing down a bit. In fact, he says that if a Catholic like, say, him, were to kill the artist who made the sculpture Piss Christ, it would be his own fault.

“I don’t mind Mel Brooks. I don’t mind edginess. I don’t even mind irreverence,” Donohue insisted. “I do have a problem with toilet speech.”

Artists must stop producing “filth,” he declared, saying that while he would be opposed to someone killing Serrano for his “Piss Christ” image, it would be Serrano’s own fault were that to happen.

“Had he exercised restraint, he wouldn’t be dead,” Donohue asserted.

So would that “logic” apply if someone who is offended by Christian totalitarianism killed Donohue for advocating it?

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  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    I know we try to stay away from medical diagnoses here, but Donohue is nothing but a sociopath using religion as a justification for his desires.

  • http://Reallyawakeguy.blogspot.com somnus

    If only those early Christian so-called martyrs had stopped telling the Romans their gods were false and they’d all burn in hell for eternity, they wouldn’t have been killed. Really, they have only themselves to blame.

  • raven

    This isn’t terrorism but it is heading in that direction.

    Oh well, we have so many xian terrorists already in the USA, a few more won’t make much difference. Some of the worst have been Catholic, i.e. Eric Rudolph the Atlanta bomber and MD assassin.

    Donohue is simply trying to recreate the Dark Ages, when the Catholic church terrorized whoever they could with torture, the murders of millions, and the occasional genocide.

  • RickR

    They’re still going on about Piss Christ??

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    “And don’t get me started on that malcontent, Jesus!”

  • mkoormtbaalt

    This reminds me of a discussion I had with an acquaintance a few months ago. We were talking about the crisis in Ukraine. His point of view is that the whole situation is the West’s fault. He claimed that if the EU had never approached Ukraine about joining them, there would have been no protests against Yanukovych. Further, even after that, if the West hadn’t given loans to Ukraine or sanctioned Russia, the war would be over by now. In his estimation, the best way to resolve the crisis is to simply abandon Ukraine, apologize to Putin for infringing on their political sphere, and agree to various concessions so that Putin doesn’t feel so threatened by NATO, such as either disbanding the alliance and creating a new one without the US and with Russia or by realigning the NATO mission to not include Europe and no longer accept new members.

    This story isn’t totally relevant to the article, but it does have a point. We can always achieve peace if we simply given in to authoritarians and retreat from conflict. We can always achieve harmony if we simply supplicate forgiveness whenever an authoritarian is upset with our point of view. The world would have far less violence (at least in the short term) if we all gave up whenever there was a threat of violence.

  • raven

    ArtK:

    ….but Donohue is nothing but a sociopath using religion as a justification for his desires.

    1. Sure. But you may be overestimating Donohue. He gets paid quite well for representing the murderous among the Catholics, Which is a small minority. By and large US Catholics are just people like the rest of us. VP Joe Biden is a Catholic.

    Follow the money!!!

    2. Even a lot of Catholics don’t much like Donohue. Oddly enough, this doesn’t include the Catholic clerical leaders. He is tacitly supported by them.

    AFAICT, Donohue is able to say what the preists and Bishops think but don’t have the latitude to say. They really, seriously miss the height of Catholic power, the Dark Ages!!!

  • scienceavenger

    I do have a problem with toilet speech.

    Then shut up, because everything that comes out of your mouth is shit.

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @RickR

    Allegedly, AP removed an image of “Piss Christ” after someone pointed out the hypocrisy of having that image up, but censoring some of the Charlie Hebdo images. So, rather than do the right thing and don’t censor anything, they chose to do the absolute wrong thing.

    @raven

    So, he’s well-paid to be a sociopath? Murder-apologist for hire?

  • busterggi

    But Christainity IS still the ‘religion of peace’ right?

  • eric

    He’s just following Jesus’ golden rule: do unto others before they speak unto you,

    Wait, that isn’t it?

  • raven

    So, he’s well-paid to be a sociopath? Murder-apologist for hire?

    He spouts hate and makes threats for money. Big money.

    They all do. Pat Robertson is a billionaire and many of the second tier have fortunes in the tens and hundreds of millions USD e.g. Glenn Beck.

    It’s an easy job and one where being a loon and a sociopath are requirements.

  • theguy

    Piss Donohue.

    “Toilet speech?” Does that bastard define his own anti-Semitism as “toilet speech?”

  • wreck

    @ ArtK #1:

    “I know we try to stay away from medical diagnoses here, but Donohue is nothing but a sociopath using religion as a justification for his desires.”

    How about pathetic excuse for a human being? Or a waste of perfectly good carbon?

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @mkoormtbaalt

    This story isn’t totally relevant to the article, but it does have a point. We can always achieve peace if we simply given in to authoritarians and retreat from conflict. We can always achieve harmony if we simply supplicate forgiveness whenever an authoritarian is upset with our point of view. The world would have far less violence (at least in the short term) if we all gave up whenever there was a threat of violence.

    Let’s ask Neville Chamberlain how well that works out.

    @wreck

    Those work for me.

  • moarscienceplz

    Or a waste of perfectly good carbon

    Oh, I dunno. If we sequestered Donohue deep underground for several thousand years, I’d say that was a very good use of his carbon.

  • John Pieret

    So would that “logic” apply if someone who is offended by Christian totalitarianism killed Donohue for advocating it?

    Don’t be ridiculous! Christian totalitarianism is God’s law and anyone who supports God’s law cannot be justly killed. That’s reserved for the godless non-Catholics, of course!

  • wreck

    @ moarscienceplz #16:

    “Oh, I dunno. If we sequestered Donohue deep underground for several thousand years, I’d say that was a very good use of his carbon.”

    I suppose you could try, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the earth rejected him.

  • bmiller

    mkoormtbaalt:

    I think the situation in the Ukraine is a little fuzzier than you suggest (not that I am a fan of Putin).

    For one thing, the “Pro-Western” people included a lot of questionable elements. Fascist elements. And the proposed Western/World Bank restructuring proposed for the Ukraine would not have been very comofrtable or successful in anyway. It is not 100% clear that the western offer was the only or best one.

    Furthermore, it can at least be argued, murkily, that the revolution did obverthrow a legitimately (as legitimate as these things can get of course) elected government.

    Finally, it is easy to pick out a bogey, a Putin (who plays the role so very well). But, there were and are deep fissures in Ukraine. It wasn’t Putin alone that created armies of people willing to take up arms to fight for what they thought was their survival as a population.

  • barry21

    If only Hyper Cacher had been a Catholic bookstore, Coulibaly wouldn’t have killed the people inside.

  • barry21

    JUST TO BE CLEAR: the above was sarcastic!

  • skinnercitycyclist

    “Oh, I dunno. If we sequestered Donohue deep underground for several thousand years, I’d say that was a very good use of his carbon.”

    Couldn’t we just render him for his tallow now?

  • Who Cares

    @ArtK(#15):

    Very well actually. Chamberlain was buying time to build up the armed forces (well the RAF and navy at expense of the army). And even then the reason that GB survived the initial phase of the war was Hitler going ballistic that the Brits dared to bomb Berlin in retaliation of a flight of Nazi bombers accidentally bombing London. The result of Hitler going ballistic was the redeployment of resources that were used/needed to destroy the RAF to the continual bombing of London.