Israeli Court Takes Steps Against a Real ‘No-Go’ Zone

As the American right wing pretends that American cities have been turned into “no-go” zones that enforce Sharia law by Muslims, an Israeli court is taking steps to dismantle a real example of such a thing that has been established by Haredi extremists.

The Beit Shemesh Magistrate’s Court ruled on Sunday that the Beit Shemesh Municipality must remove prominent signs put up in central locations in the city warning women to dress modestly and not to linger in certain places, and awarded the four plaintiffs a combined total of NIS 60,000 in damages.

There have been signs on display in haredi (ultra-Orthodox) neighborhoods in the city for several years now, placed by staunchly conservative haredi synagogues and communal organizations, telling women to dress modestly in the particular area of the city where the signs were posted.

Some of the signs also instructed women not to tarry outside certain synagogues and other spots in haredi neighborhoods.

Sounds a lot like Sharia law, doesn’t it?

Judge David Gideoni ruled that the municipality’s refusal to remove the signs severely harmed the rights of women in the city, and that the municipality should compensate each of the plaintiffs NIS 15,000 for the distress that had been caused to them by this failure.

“The signs were designed to restrict women from using public spaces simply because they were women… and constitute a severe injury to the rights of women to equality and respect. The signs are also humiliating,” Gideoni said in his ruling.

“The signs create the expectation that they should be adhered and are likely to create the expectation or understanding that the area where the sign is placed belongs, in effect, to one specific population group in which its norms are applicable.

“This expectation is likely in certain circumstances to encourage and assist the creation of a social atmosphere in which one could interpret the signs as obligating a person to obey them and even to bring about enforcement activities, sometimes through violence,” the judge said.

The city’s response is absurd:

The Beit Shemesh Municipality said in response that it had repeatedly taken the signs down but that they were replaced on each occasion, adding that taking the signs down had led riots.

“It is not within the power of the municipal security to deal with this complicated issue on an operational level, so we turned to the Israel Police to enforce the law.

“Unfortunately, the court did not manage to understand the complicated reality in Beit Shemesh which we are dealing with, and did not accept the claim of the municipality that concern for the public safety and the harm to the fabric of the delicate relations between different population groups in Beit Shemesh outweighed the immediate and repeated need to remove the signs,” it said.

You’re the government. If one group of people is oppressing and committing violence against others, it’s your fucking job to stop them. And if they riot over that, it’s your job to arrest and prosecute them. That’s the primary reason we have governments, for crying out loud.

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  • eric

    “…[the signs] encourage and assist the creation of a social atmosphere in which one could interpret the signs as obligating a person to obey them …”

    No sh*t. That is exactly what they are designed to do. As far as the fundies are concerned, that’s a feature not a bug.

    “…[the court] did not accept the claim of the municipality that concern for the public safety and the harm to the fabric of the delicate relations between different population groups in Beit Shemesh outweighed the immediate and repeated need to remove the signs.”

    Translations:

    “Public safety” = without the signs men will attack women in the street in broad daylight. That’s obviously the fault of those slutty slut slut women. So we have to put the signs up because we wouldn’t dream of charging men for assault.

    “Delicate relations” = without the signs, the men will complain. And again, that’s the fault of those slutty sluts.

  • http://motherwell.livejournal.com/ Raging Bee

    “Complicated reality” my ass. If a significant number of people are rioting and/or harassing other people, you send more cops to keep order and arrest and charge violators of the law. Israeli security forces have experience dealing with well-armed terrorists, so keeping a bunch of testerical religious idiots from beating up on civilians shouldn’t be that hard a task for them.

    Of course, if you’ve based the very legitimacy of your country on religious law and identity, that could make things complicated when religious laws conflict with basic principles of decency. Oh wait, basic principles of decency aren’t complicated. Never mind.

  • http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/User:Modusoperandi Modusoperandi

    …and constitute a severe injury to the rights of women to equality and respect.

    But what about the severe injury the men receive, upon sight of a bare knee, elbow or, God help us, a shoulder? *shudder*

    Stop dressing like whores, you whores!

  • http://howlandbolton.com richardelguru

    @RB

    “testerical” nice word, I haven’t noticed it before, neither has the OED :-(

    RHB

  • colnago80

    It is my information that there are sections of New York City that are much like this.

  • colnago80

    Re Raging Bee @ #2

    Gee, one would almost think that these clowns are Libertarians to so rattle the Bee’s cage.

  • laurentweppe

    If a significant number of people are rioting and/or harassing other people, you send more cops to keep order and arrest and charge violators of the law. Israeli security forces have experience dealing with well-armed terrorists, so keeping a bunch of testerical religious idiots from beating up on civilians shouldn’t be that hard a task for them.

    The problem is that Beit Shemesh’s current mayor is

    1. Haredi himself

    2. Won the previous election with a very slim margin

    The politically fragile mayor simply won’t risk antagonizing his most vital constituency, especially if said constituency made it clear that they’d rather burn their own fucking hometown rather than abide by the rule of law.

  • abb3w

    @2,Raging Bee

    “Complicated reality” my ass. If a significant number of people are rioting and/or harassing other people, you send more cops to keep order and arrest and charge violators of the law.

    This neglects the “quis custodiet ipsos custodes” element that may be at play.

    Of course, if the cops won’t enforce the law nor maintain order, the usual next step in the progression is to declare martial law and send in the military to do that. Of course, sometimes the progression stalls out (due to lack of political will), and instead you’re dealing with a protracted (but not necessarily acknowledged) de facto breakdown in the rule of law — much like existed in large parts of the southern US in Jim Crow days, and probably at least some parts through to the present.

  • Artor

    Is that the only comment you have on this Colnago? No paeans in support of your beloved Israel, and exhortations to bomb the fuck out of everyone around them?

  • colnago80

    Re Artor @ #9

    Does Artor think that Israel would be out of line by bombing targets in Syria, considering it’s the US and its allies who are currently bombing the fuck out of Syria.

  • michaelcrichton

    “This neglects the “quis custodiet ipsos custodes” element that may be at play.”

    No Haredi would EVER join the police. It’s too much like work, which is far less important to them than “Studying the Torah” while collecting welfare.