More Protests on the King, NC Settlement

Steven Hewett may have won his case against King, North Carolina for putting up an unconstitutional veteran’s memorial, but the advocates of Christian supremacy are not going away quietly. They’re organizing yet another protest of the settlement and making all the usual dumb arguments about it.

Opponents of the King Christian flag settlement agreement are organizing a rally at King Central Park on Feb. 7 to keep the issue alive and to help other communities know how to prevent similar issues from arising.

“We want everybody to know this did not have to happen and we need to all get together and help keep this from happening in other towns,” said Paula Calloway, a member of the Stokes County Militia. The Stokes County Militia is working with an organization called Two Million Bikers to D.C. to organize the event. “We may not be able to ever see our soldier or our flag fly in that park again but we hope to see a new memorial in our town soon. We hope to raise the money to do this soon and we need your help. We also want to let all the other little towns out there know that they do not have to cave and cower to the threats of these groups, these bullies, these cases can be won and there are groups out there that will help.”

Their new ingenious plan? Put it on private property:

Jeff Browning, a spokesman for the North Carolina chapter of Two Million Bikers to D.C., said his organization was happy to help support the event.

“We felt like it was something that fell in line with our beliefs,” he said. “We see this as a bullying situation. The town council and the town were held hostage over a potential financial loss. We have seen this pattern with the ACLU in the past and thought we would get involved and perhaps lay the ground work for future situations where this coalition of people will have the means to help.”

He said the Two Million Bikers to D.C. organization had been formed in 2013 to make sure people remembered the 9/11 attacks.

“In a matter of three weeks through social media, groups coalesced and formed the group as a way to stand up for America and fight for what we believe are traditional American values and our constitutional rights,” he said. Browning said his organization had posted the event on their national Facebook page and had directly invited affiliates from Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Pennsylvania to attend the event.

At press time over 600 people had signed up to attend on the group’s Facebook page.

“We have seen a lot of local people coming together and being encouraged that there are other people who are concerned about the situation,” he added. “We know the situation has been resolved in King. The goal of this is not to get the statue back at the memorial, but to have a clearinghouse for towns that come up against this issue in the future.”

He did say his organization would help local supporters raise funds to purchase private property to build a new memorial if they wanted to.

Knock yourselves out. Put up any kind of monument you’d like on private property and no one will give a shit.

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  • dingojack

    ‘…the King’? Wait now — North Carolina has it’s own separate King? What about the Declaration of Independence?

    @@ Dingo

  • Modusoperandi

    Put up any kind of monument you’d like on private property and no one will give a shit.


  • D. C. Sessions

    First order of business would be to get together the money to incorporate.

    Which, I suspect, will also be the last step when they count the receipts.

  • John Pieret

    What a clever plan! … They are going to obey the Constitution! Why didn’t anyone else think of that?!?!

  • Mike Morris

    Reluctantly, petulantly following the law. Who would have thought it possible?

    And they will help other small towns follow the law too. The miracle of private property.

  • rationalinks

    I got into a pretty heated argument with a guy about this a few weeks ago (well, he was heated, I never raised my voice even once…go figure). He was “So damn mad I could spit” that “we” would dare trample on the graves of our fallen soldiers. When I asked him what about all the non-Christian soldiers, does their sacrifice not count, are Christian soldiers worth more? His face got red and spit started flying from his mouth as he told me “it’s not about that, the cross represented the grave markers in Arlington, which are all crosses. All of the grave markers of fallen soldiers everywhere are crosses. It’s tradition”. Things went downhill pretty quickly when I called him out on his lie and then explained that just because something is tradition doesn’t make it better or even right.

    Where do these people come up with this crap?

  • Kamaka

    We see this as a bullying situation

    No shit, Jeff Browning. Pushing religion in the public square is just that, bullying. Proven to be bullying by the inevitable hostile and threatening reactions to demands for removal of godstuff or equal access to the venue.

    I gotta give you credit, though, for finding the simple resolution to a problem invented by such as the aggrieved.

  • brucegee1962

    Wow, rationalinks, that’s a great story. Congratulations on keeping your cool. I imagine myself staring at him coldly after that last line and saying, “You’ve…never actually visited a military cemetery, have you?” That probably wouldn’t have ended well.

  • scienceavenger

    He said the Two Million Bikers to D.C. organization had been formed in 2013 to make sure people remembered the 9/11 attacks…

    At press time over 600 people had signed up to attend on the group’s Facebook page.

    So two million talk the talk, and 600 walk the walk. Same ol…

  • scienceavenger

    Oh, and making sure people remember the 9/11 attacks? Is he fucking serious? Could anyone forget them if they tried? Next he’ll claim there’s a war on Christmas.

  • rationalinks

    I couldn’t get mad at him, brucegee, it was like talking to my first grader. He knew just enough information that he thought he knew what he was talking about, but in reality he had no clue, he came to the proverbial gun fight with a knife. I’ve seen the same thing happen with children, they want so desperately to be right that anything that challenges that notion is considered a personal attack.

    This phenomenon happens to me a lot, mostly in online discussions with Christians. You call them out on their lies or you give them proof that they are wrong and instead of considering the evidence they immediately go into a toddleresque tantrum.

  • John Pieret


    If you see your spittle-flecked friend again, you can point him to the National Cemetery Administration’s list of “Available Emblems of Belief for Placement on Government Headstones and Markers” (about 60, including humanist and atheist) here:

  • Modusoperandi

    rationalinks “…online discussions with Christians”

    Caution: After 9pm it gets a little blue.

  • D. C. Sessions
  • dugglebogey

    “We’ll show you! We will do exactly what you want! That’ll teach ya!”

  • david

    The Nixon method: declare victory, and retreat.

  • Alverant
  • slatham

    Well, that would fix the public and private land issue. But would other public money be going toward support of the sectarian memorial?

  • kenn

    “…the cross represented the grave markers in Arlington, which are all crosses. All of the grave markers of fallen soldiers everywhere are crosses.”

    Guy’s obviously never been to Arlington, or he’d have remembered seeing Stars of David, Buddhist, Wiccan and Humanist symbols, and even some weird atom-like symbol which purportedly represents atheism. (Personally, if I were a veteran, I’d prefer a grave marker with no symbol at all.)

  • abb3w

    @19, kenn

    Guy’s obviously never been to Arlington

    Or at least not looked around closely. A lot of people stop by to see the Tomb of the Unknowns; rather less stop by to go to visit some other particular grave; but far less still spend any substantial time walking among the 300000 graves.

    My reaction would have been a blank stare, and then a quiet invitation to go visit Arlington and pay respects at graves not marked with crosses. I’m in central Virginia, so it’s a practical day trip on the weekend. (I suspect the doofus was thinking of the Flanders Field cemetery over in Europe — in a country with rather different official views on the separation of Church and State.)

  • gshelley

    It never ceases to amaze me that when we say “hey, can you make sure the memorials are actually honouring the soldiers, and not just a religious one” they think that is “trampling on the graves of the fallen”, but when they say “Hmm, lets honour Jesus instead of the soldiers” that is somehow honouring them

  • moarscienceplz

    Their new ingenious plan? Put it on private property


  • maddog1129

    They really really do not get it.

  • dynamo

    “REMOVED – A short study on the Hewett v. City of King lawsuit. What happened in King, NC, why it can happen ANYWHERE, and how to reverse the trend” — READ: