McFarland: Obama’s Prayer Breakfast Reality ‘Borderline Treasonous’

Okay, I thought Star Parker’s hysterically overblown reaction to President Obama’s simple statement of fact that much bloodshed and oppression had been justified by Christianity was the dumbest thing anyone would say on the matter. I really should know better by now. Alex McFarland, you’re up:

Dr. Alex McFarland, a Christian apologist and co-host of American Family Radio’s “Exploring the Word” program, says the president’s words are unthinkable and “borderline treasonous, really.”

“To compare Christianity to the crimes of Islam is absolutely unacceptable,” Dr. McFarland asserts. “Islam in its sacred writings prescribes violence against non-believers; the Bible does not. Mohammad ordered the killings of his enemies; Jesus Christ never did that.”

Actually, the Bible contains lots and lots of verses commanding violence against non-believers. Hell, all non-believers even burn in hell for all eternity, according to the Bible. McFarland surely knows this, though I’m sure he’s got some sort of rationalization for why that doesn’t count — just like lots of Muslims do to dismiss such commands in the Quran.

See, if violence is justified by Christianity, that just means that the person committing the violence doesn’t understand Christianity and is No True Christian. Of course, those Christians who support the use of violence say the same thing about them. And when a Muslim makes the same argument about Muslims who commit violence, those Christians who say this find that absolutely absurd and can’t believe anyone could believe such a thing. Motivated reasoning FTW.

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  • raven

    Telling the truth is a treasonous act?

    If that is so, I’m guilty and proud of it.

    Fortunately in realityland, telling the truth is just telling the truth and no big deal.

  • cptdoom

    Jesus Christ never did that.

    Well that’s true, but when have modern-day fundies ever acted toward non-Christians in any manner Jesus directed?

  • busterggi

    These the same Christians who say Jesus is coming back to slaughter 99% of humanity?

  • dugglebogey

    Criticizing someone’s religion/politics is not treason, it’s ESSENTIAL to the process.

    I realize these people want their religion to go totally uncriticized, but that is simply NOT how we do it in America. What they are desiring, ironically, is how some muslim theocracies do it.

  • eric

    Islam in its sacred writings prescribes violence against non-believers; the Bible does not.

    [Cough] Numbers 31 [/Cough]

  • Pierce R. Butler

    Mohammad ordered the killings of his enemies; Jesus Christ never did that.

    Luke 19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Eric, that was the Jews. Not Christians.

  • http://drx.typepad.com Dr X

    So if criticisim of dead Catholic popes is now treason against the united states, should we put all American Protestants on trial for treason?

  • http://artk.typepad.com ArtK

    @ D.C. Sessions

    But, but, but… Judeo-Christian!!11!11!!

  • devlynh

    Really… I think they are just trying to out crazy each other now.

  • Michael Heath

    Alex McFarland writes:

    Mohammad ordered the killings of his enemies; Jesus Christ never did that.

    Ordering the killing of enemies? That’s child play, nearly all humans can do that. Jesus promises infinitely worse; that’s unimaginable suffering for all eternity. And that’s not merely towards Jesus’ enemies, but whomever he feels like fucking over.

    I’ve yet to meet even one Hell-believing Christian who had the wisdom, character, and [remedial] critical thinking skills to confront this biblical fact.

  • blf

    Telling the truth is a treasonous act?

    If so, it might explain why one sometimes gets the feeling xians never tell the trvth, except by accident.

  • caseloweraz

    That’s a very cogent operational definition of “Christian apologist.”

  • U Frood

    No, see all those times God ordered the deaths of nonbelievers (or carried them out himself) that was all the old Testament.

    Jesus changed all that, even though he says he didn’t come to change the law, and never even apologized for the evil his father did.

  • Nemo

    I wonder if this makes even a little more sense with the full context, but that doesn’t seem to be linked from the OneNewsNow article. I’m left to infer that he’s somehow equating Christianity with America, as well as criticism with treason, but I’m really not sure if that’s what he meant.

  • StevoR

    Well I think all three Abrahamic faiths include the OT / Talmudic /Quaranic (?) tale of Jephthah don’t they? See here :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt66kbYmXXk

    Via Non-Stamp Collector.

    “Funny” how everyone seems to remember how Abraham nearly sacrificed Isaac / Ishmael but no one recalls Jephthah murdered his unnamed daughter as a human sacrifice to the Abrahamic deity isn’t it?

  • StevoR

    PS. ^ Certain Jephthah’s story is in the Jewish and Christian books – not 100% sure about Islam but think it probably is in the Quaran too, yeah?

  • dingojack

    Stevo – Biblically, see Judges11 (esp. Judges 11:34-39).

    Dingo

  • martinc

    Pierce R. Butler @ 6 says

    Mohammad ordered the killings of his enemies; Jesus Christ never did that.

    Luke 19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

    That’s a bit misleading. Jesus is QUOTING someone else; a man in the story he is telling. Yes, it’s weird that he included it at the end of the story without comment, but it is not an instruction from Jesus to the people listening.

  • U Frood

    Mohammad ordered the killings of his enemies; Jesus Christ never did that.

    But God did in the Old Testament. Why do Christians conveniently forget that they believe the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are ONE God whenever they want to distance themselves from the demands of the Old Testament?

  • Pierce R. Butler

    martinc @ # 19: Jesus is QUOTING someone else; a man in the story he is telling.

    I dunno: J explicitly begins telling a parable at Luke 19:11, but seems to have reached the “and the moral of the story is …” stage by verse 26:

    26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

    27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

    28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

    … and the adventure continues!

    The story doesn’t make a whole lot of sense as presented, to those of us lacking the context of >19 centuries ago. Particularly, verse 27 comes after the protagonist of the story has ordered rewards and punishments (the worst being a monetary forfeiture) for his servants and J has rendered his conclusion. It reads to me like v. 27 got interpolated later to support some sort of cult triumphalism, but I don’t have time to go dig into it right now.